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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

I gave it 12 hours. Is McCarthy in the Hall of Fame in here yet?

Brad I liked Nix, but McCarthy is 3 years younger, has a bigger arm, better size, and his stats on low volume are crazy good. McCarthy is a better prospect than Nix. We did awesome.

He comes from a running offense, rarely ran a two-minute offense and had one of the best offensive lines in college football. He'll be on red-alert with this offensive line. He's got a lot to learn in a short amount of time.

I hope you are right, but I sense you are not. Most real draftniks thought it was a reach. I agree with them. The film and experience just isn't there.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hockenson and Aaron Jones.

He better succeed immediately with that talent, because the tools are all there. If not, I will be here every week to remind you.

Mahomes sat a year. Why rush him if he isn't ready?

The Chiefs had Alex Smith, who was a returning Pro Bowler.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hockenson and Aaron Jones.

He better succeed immediately with that talent, because the tools are all there. If not, I will be here every week to remind you.

Mahomes sat a year. Why rush him if he isn't ready?

The Chiefs had Alex Smith, who was a returning Pro Bowler.

It doesn't take much to make the Pro Bowl. And this was a top 5 all timer in Mahomes.

We are doing it right. Getting younger, drafted QBOTF, cleaning out dead cap. KAM is making a comeback.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hockenson and Aaron Jones.

He better succeed immediately with that talent, because the tools are all there. If not, I will be here every week to remind you.

Mahomes sat a year. Why rush him if he isn't ready?

The Chiefs had Alex Smith, who was a returning Pro Bowler.

It doesn't take much to make the Pro Bowl. And this was a top 5 all timer in Mahomes.

We are doing it right. Getting younger, drafted QBOTF, cleaning out dead cap. KAM is making a comeback.

I agree in getting younger and cleaning out cap space. QBOTF is very debatable.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hockenson and Aaron Jones.

He better succeed immediately with that talent, because the tools are all there. If not, I will be here every week to remind you.

Mahomes sat a year. Why rush him if he isn't ready?

The Chiefs had Alex Smith, who was a returning Pro Bowler.

It doesn't take much to make the Pro Bowl. And this was a top 5 all timer in Mahomes.

We are doing it right. Getting younger, drafted QBOTF, cleaning out dead cap. KAM is making a comeback.

I agree in getting younger and cleaning out cap space. QBOTF is very debatable.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hockenson and Aaron Jones.

He better succeed immediately with that talent, because the tools are all there. If not, I will be here every week to remind you.

Mahomes sat a year. Why rush him if he isn't ready?

The Chiefs had Alex Smith, who was a returning Pro Bowler.

It doesn't take much to make the Pro Bowl. And this was a top 5 all timer in Mahomes.

We are doing it right. Getting younger, drafted QBOTF, cleaning out dead cap. KAM is making a comeback.

I agree in getting younger and cleaning out cap space. QBOTF is very debatable.

We very well might have had Maye as our #1 target. Couldn't get him and went to plan B. Sometimes plan B works better than A.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hockenson and Aaron Jones.

He better succeed immediately with that talent, because the tools are all there. If not, I will be here every week to remind you.

Mahomes sat a year. Why rush him if he isn't ready?

The Chiefs had Alex Smith, who was a returning Pro Bowler.

It doesn't take much to make the Pro Bowl. And this was a top 5 all timer in Mahomes.

We are doing it right. Getting younger, drafted QBOTF, cleaning out dead cap. KAM is making a comeback.

I agree in getting younger and cleaning out cap space. QBOTF is very debatable.

We very well might have had Maye as our #1 target. Couldn't get him and went to plan B. Sometimes plan B works better than A.

I think we went with plan F. That would have been the last quarterback of the six I would have taken, based on his body of work.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

My take on the Draft.

Vikings got their QB. I think they tried to get Justin Herbert but he Chargers weren't stupid. Then they wanted Maye, but the Patriots weren't stupid.

Once Daniels and Maye were off the board they felt pretty good about getting McCarthy without having to move, then Atlanta made everyone say "what the ****?" and drafted Penix. Suddenly the Vikings were worried that the Broncos or Raiders would leapfrog them for McCarthy cause one wasn't going to get a QB. Vikings wanted McCarthy at that point so they traded up to move up one spot and took McCarrthy.

Then when sitting at 23 they saw several more picks go all offense and wanted either Latu or Turner and once ONE of them was taken they moved up for the other as quickly as possible.

As for how they played the draft...loved it. I've been pining for years for them to switch it up and instead of trading down, trade up and get a really good player instead of getting more mediocre ones. Once they got McCarthy without having to use 23 to move up, I was convinced they'd try to trade that pick to moved down...I was, to say the least, shocked they traded up there too.

As for what we got. McCarthy varied from expert to expert as to whether he was second best on down to possible bust. What we got was a winner. My concern for him is because he's so used to playing with a huge lead will he be able to manage a late game comeback? How will he fare in close games when the pressure is cranked up about 1000x more intense? I look forward to finding out.

Turner was listed by most as one of the top defensive players of the draft and it was a miracle that he was available at 17. We got a replacement for Danielle Hunter.

Now we don't pick again until round 4.

I am excited to see both these guys play

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

My take on the Draft.

Vikings got their QB. I think they tried to get Justin Herbert but he Chargers weren't stupid. Then they wanted Maye, but the Patriots weren't stupid.

Once Daniels and Maye were off the board they felt pretty good about getting McCarthy without having to move, then Atlanta made everyone say "what the ****?" and drafted Penix. Suddenly the Vikings were worried that the Broncos or Raiders would leapfrog them for McCarthy cause one wasn't going to get a QB. Vikings wanted McCarthy at that point so they traded up to move up one spot and took McCarrthy.

Then when sitting at 23 they saw several more picks go all offense and wanted either Latu or Turner and once ONE of them was taken they moved up for the other as quickly as possible.

As for how they played the draft...loved it. I've been pining for years for them to switch it up and instead of trading down, trade up and get a really good player instead of getting more mediocre ones. Once they got McCarthy without having to use 23 to move up, I was convinced they'd try to trade that pick to moved down...I was, to say the least, shocked they traded up there too.

As for what we got. McCarthy varied from expert to expert as to whether he was second best on down to possible bust. What we got was a winner. My concern for him is because he's so used to playing with a huge lead will he be able to manage a late game comeback? How will he fare in close games when the pressure is cranked up about 1000x more intense? I look forward to finding out.

Turner was listed by most as one of the top defensive players of the draft and it was a miracle that he was available at 17. We got a replacement for Danielle Hunter.

Now we don't pick again until round 4.

I am excited to see both these guys play

I don't believe for one second we tried for Herbert. $129 million instant cap hit if the Chargers trade him. Kwesi or KMA I forget who said they were pretty much laughing their asses off over that rumor.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Latu seemed more like a consolation prize if you needed an edge rusher desperately. Him going before Turner with that looming neck injury was very shocking. Indy has Atl to thank or they would be receiving some heavy scrutiny as well.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

My take on the Draft.

Vikings got their QB. I think they tried to get Justin Herbert but he Chargers weren't stupid. Then they wanted Maye, but the Patriots weren't stupid.

Once Daniels and Maye were off the board they felt pretty good about getting McCarthy without having to move, then Atlanta made everyone say "what the ****?" and drafted Penix. Suddenly the Vikings were worried that the Broncos or Raiders would leapfrog them for McCarthy cause one wasn't going to get a QB. Vikings wanted McCarthy at that point so they traded up to move up one spot and took McCarrthy.

Then when sitting at 23 they saw several more picks go all offense and wanted either Latu or Turner and once ONE of them was taken they moved up for the other as quickly as possible.

As for how they played the draft...loved it. I've been pining for years for them to switch it up and instead of trading down, trade up and get a really good player instead of getting more mediocre ones. Once they got McCarthy without having to use 23 to move up, I was convinced they'd try to trade that pick to moved down...I was, to say the least, shocked they traded up there too.

As for what we got. McCarthy varied from expert to expert as to whether he was second best on down to possible bust. What we got was a winner. My concern for him is because he's so used to playing with a huge lead will he be able to manage a late game comeback? How will he fare in close games when the pressure is cranked up about 1000x more intense? I look forward to finding out.

Turner was listed by most as one of the top defensive players of the draft and it was a miracle that he was available at 17. We got a replacement for Danielle Hunter.

Now we don't pick again until round 4.

I am excited to see both these guys play

I don't believe for one second we tried for Herbert. $129 million instant cap hit if the Chargers trade him. Kwesi or KMA I forget who said they were pretty much laughing their asses off over that rumor.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hockenson and Aaron Jones.

He better succeed immediately with that talent, because the tools are all there. If not, I will be here every week to remind you.

And if he does succeed, you'll be golfing.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hockenson and Aaron Jones.

He better succeed immediately with that talent, because the tools are all there. If not, I will be here every week to remind you.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Perhaps the most hilarious part of this forum is Phil attempting to drag me into a conversation.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Latu seemed more like a consolation prize if you needed an edge rusher desperately. Him going before Turner with that looming neck injury was very shocking. Indy has Atl to thank or they would be receiving some heavy scrutiny as well.

I know Atlanta will be criticized, but I think they did exactly what they needed to do. Cousins is coming off an Achilles. There is no guarantee he ever plays effectively again. They got a stud for the future, who could play immediately.

I think they should be criticized for going after Cousins. That was the dumber of the two moves.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hockenson and Aaron Jones.

He better succeed immediately with that talent, because the tools are all there. If not, I will be here every week to remind you.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

My take on the Draft.

Vikings got their QB. I think they tried to get Justin Herbert but he Chargers weren't stupid. Then they wanted Maye, but the Patriots weren't stupid.

Once Daniels and Maye were off the board they felt pretty good about getting McCarthy without having to move, then Atlanta made everyone say "what the ****?" and drafted Penix. Suddenly the Vikings were worried that the Broncos or Raiders would leapfrog them for McCarthy cause one wasn't going to get a QB. Vikings wanted McCarthy at that point so they traded up to move up one spot and took McCarrthy.

Then when sitting at 23 they saw several more picks go all offense and wanted either Latu or Turner and once ONE of them was taken they moved up for the other as quickly as possible.

As for how they played the draft...loved it. I've been pining for years for them to switch it up and instead of trading down, trade up and get a really good player instead of getting more mediocre ones. Once they got McCarthy without having to use 23 to move up, I was convinced they'd try to trade that pick to moved down...I was, to say the least, shocked they traded up there too.

As for what we got. McCarthy varied from expert to expert as to whether he was second best on down to possible bust. What we got was a winner. My concern for him is because he's so used to playing with a huge lead will he be able to manage a late game comeback? How will he fare in close games when the pressure is cranked up about 1000x more intense? I look forward to finding out.

Turner was listed by most as one of the top defensive players of the draft and it was a miracle that he was available at 17. We got a replacement for Danielle Hunter.

Now we don't pick again until round 4.

I am excited to see both these guys play

I don't believe for one second we tried for Herbert. $129 million instant cap hit if the Chargers trade him. Kwesi or KMA I forget who said they were pretty much laughing their asses off over that rumor.

Why don't you believe we asked? Worst you can hear is NO.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen
Going back to when JJ was selected, the reactions/posts had to have been the most subdued ever on here for a 1st round pick. I know this because 'I read (and just re-read) all the comments'. So nobody is proclaiming JJ as the second coming.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hockenson and Aaron Jones.

He better succeed immediately with that talent, because the tools are all there. If not, I will be here every week to remind you.

Like I said earlier, If McCarthy has a bad game, Brad will be here speaking about just how smart he is...and when McCarthy has a bad game it will be crickets.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

My take on the Draft.

Vikings got their QB. I think they tried to get Justin Herbert but he Chargers weren't stupid. Then they wanted Maye, but the Patriots weren't stupid.

Once Daniels and Maye were off the board they felt pretty good about getting McCarthy without having to move, then Atlanta made everyone say "what the ****?" and drafted Penix. Suddenly the Vikings were worried that the Broncos or Raiders would leapfrog them for McCarthy cause one wasn't going to get a QB. Vikings wanted McCarthy at that point so they traded up to move up one spot and took McCarrthy.

Then when sitting at 23 they saw several more picks go all offense and wanted either Latu or Turner and once ONE of them was taken they moved up for the other as quickly as possible.

As for how they played the draft...loved it. I've been pining for years for them to switch it up and instead of trading down, trade up and get a really good player instead of getting more mediocre ones. Once they got McCarthy without having to use 23 to move up, I was convinced they'd try to trade that pick to moved down...I was, to say the least, shocked they traded up there too.

As for what we got. McCarthy varied from expert to expert as to whether he was second best on down to possible bust. What we got was a winner. My concern for him is because he's so used to playing with a huge lead will he be able to manage a late game comeback? How will he fare in close games when the pressure is cranked up about 1000x more intense? I look forward to finding out.

Turner was listed by most as one of the top defensive players of the draft and it was a miracle that he was available at 17. We got a replacement for Danielle Hunter.

Now we don't pick again until round 4.

I am excited to see both these guys play

I don't believe for one second we tried for Herbert. $129 million instant cap hit if the Chargers trade him. Kwesi or KMA I forget who said they were pretty much laughing their asses off over that rumor.

Why don't you believe we asked? Worst you can hear is NO.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hockenson and Aaron Jones.

He better succeed immediately with that talent, because the tools are all there. If not, I will be here every week to remind you.

Like I said earlier, If McCarthy has a bad game, Brad will be here speaking about just how smart he is...and when McCarthy has a bad game it will be crickets.

You need to fix the second half of your post.