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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 10:38:40 AM 1 votes

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Best pick of the first round could end up being Nix in Denver. The Payton/Nix combo seems like a perfect fit. Looks a lot like Drew Brees on paper and film.

I love that pick too.

Hoping it gets Payton fired.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 10:46:52 AM

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Couple things from Kevin Seifert:

First thing the Vikes told Turner to be ready for: Rush the passer as soon as he gets off of the plane.

JJ is a big hockey fan and played hockey apparently received a phone call from Gretsky after he was picked.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 10:47:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Best pick of the first round could end up being Nix in Denver. The Payton/Nix combo seems like a perfect fit. Looks a lot like Drew Brees on paper and film.

I love that pick too.

Hoping it gets Payton fired.

Nix is currently the front runner for Rookie of the Year. He may start by game 1 and no later than game 3. It all depends on how long it takes for McCarthy to start in Minnesota.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 10:48:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Latu seemed more like a consolation prize if you needed an edge rusher desperately. Him going before Turner with that looming neck injury was very shocking. Indy has Atl to thank or they would be receiving some heavy scrutiny as well.

Latu was the best pass rusher and defender in this draft and it wasn't close, but....
The neck condition is scary as hell.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 10:48:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Best pick of the first round could end up being Nix in Denver. The Payton/Nix combo seems like a perfect fit. Looks a lot like Drew Brees on paper and film.

I love that pick too.

Hoping it gets Payton fired.

Nix is currently the front runner for Rookie of the Year. He may start by game 1 and no later than game 3. It all depends on how long it takes for McCarthy to start in Minnesota.

Front runner according to who?

Caleb (Moore, Kmet, Allen, Odunze and a good oline) and Daniels (McLaurin, Ekler, Ertz, Dotson) are setup better. Denver doesn't have the WRs or Line....similar to Maye at NE.

Oregon had better WR than Denver has now and Denver has a big cap charge.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 10:55:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Best pick of the first round could end up being Nix in Denver. The Payton/Nix combo seems like a perfect fit. Looks a lot like Drew Brees on paper and film.

I love that pick too.

Hoping it gets Payton fired.

Nix is currently the front runner for Rookie of the Year. He may start by game 1 and no later than game 3. It all depends on how long it takes for McCarthy to start in Minnesota.

Front runner according to who?

Caleb (Moore, Kmet, Allen, Odunze and a good oline) and Daniels (McLaurin, Ekler, Ertz, Dotson) are setup better. Denver doesn't have the WRs or Line....similar to Maye at NE.

Oregon had better WR than Denver has now and Denver has a big cap charge.

Fan Duel has Nix at +3000 to win it.

Which puts him at a distant 10th.

JJ is tied with Daniels for 3rd at +1000

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/nfl?tab=rookies

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 10:56:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hockenson and Aaron Jones.

He better succeed immediately with that talent, because the tools are all there. If not, I will be here every week to remind you.

Like I said earlier, If McCarthy has a bad game, Brad will be here speaking about just how smart he is...and when McCarthy has a bad game it will be crickets.

You need to fix the second half of your post.

What do you mean? All qbs have bad games.

I'm 99.99999% sure he meant to say when McCarthy had a good game it would be crickets from Brad. Read his comment again.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 10:57:07 AM

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Draft Kings has him in a 3-way tie for 6th (with Maye and Worthy) at +1600.

They have JJ 4th at +800

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/football/nfl?category=quick-sgp&subcategory=offensive-rookie-of-the-year

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 10:57:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Best pick of the first round could end up being Nix in Denver. The Payton/Nix combo seems like a perfect fit. Looks a lot like Drew Brees on paper and film.

He has lots of Brees similarities while being bigger, stronger and more athletic. Nix will maybe even start from game 1. He is the front runner for Rookie of the Year.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 10:58:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hockenson and Aaron Jones.

He better succeed immediately with that talent, because the tools are all there. If not, I will be here every week to remind you.

Like I said earlier, If McCarthy has a bad game, Brad will be here speaking about just how smart he is...and when McCarthy has a bad game it will be crickets.

You need to fix the second half of your post.

What do you mean? All qbs have bad games.

I'm 99.99999% sure he meant to say when McCarthy had a good game it would be crickets from Brad. Read his comment again.

We got the just of his post; your reply made it seem different. But ok.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:00:40 AM

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Best pick of the first round could end up being Nix in Denver. The Payton/Nix combo seems like a perfect fit. Looks a lot like Drew Brees on paper and film.

He has lots of Brees similarities while being bigger, stronger and more athletic. Nix will maybe even start from game 1. He is the front runner for Rookie of the Year.

You do know supporting cast matters? Nix isn't going in with that neither is Maye. Then you add on just being a rookie.

According to who? DL posted what the bookmakers think. If Nix went to MN, Wash, or Chi yes. Even if you think Payton is a QB guru it is an s show.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:02:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Draft Kings has him in a 3-way tie for 6th (with Maye and Worthy) at +1600.

They have JJ 4th at +800

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/football/nfl?category=quick-sgp&subcategory=offensive-rookie-of-the-year

Yeah Caleb is the front runner. We haven't discussed him at all and I was forgetting about him. Harrison and Jayden Daniels are in the conversation for sure. It will come down to whether McCarthy starts early in the season or not. If he does I'll make him co front runner with Caleb.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:04:37 AM

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Best pick of the first round could end up being Nix in Denver. The Payton/Nix combo seems like a perfect fit. Looks a lot like Drew Brees on paper and film.

He has lots of Brees similarities while being bigger, stronger and more athletic. Nix will maybe even start from game 1. He is the front runner for Rookie of the Year.

You do know supporting cast matters? Nix isn't going in with that neither is Maye. Then you add on just being a rookie.

According to who? DL posted what the bookmakers think. If Nix went to MN, Wash, or Chi yes. Even if you think Payton is a QB guru it is an s show.

Believe it or not I was forgetting about Caleb. He's the front runner. I believe Denver is a much better supporting cast than Washington, and McCarthy might not start until midseason.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:04:42 AM

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Draft Kings has him in a 3-way tie for 6th (with Maye and Worthy) at +1600.

They have JJ 4th at +800

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/football/nfl?category=quick-sgp&subcategory=offensive-rookie-of-the-year

Yeah Caleb is the front runner. We haven't discussed him at all and I was forgetting about him. Harrison and Jayden Daniels are in the conversation for sure. It will come down to whether McCarthy starts early in the season or not. If he does I'll make him co front runner with Caleb.

Don't care about McCarthy actually being a front runner for the award....long term sitting at least the first 3-4 would help him the most.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:05:48 AM

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Oh the deadly combo. If there was any hope for Nix its now been blackened out of all recognition … He’s been Dillon Mithelled and Thielened into oblivion.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:08:28 AM

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Draft Kings has him in a 3-way tie for 6th (with Maye and Worthy) at +1600.

They have JJ 4th at +800

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/football/nfl?category=quick-sgp&subcategory=offensive-rookie-of-the-year

Yeah Caleb is the front runner. We haven't discussed him at all and I was forgetting about him. Harrison and Jayden Daniels are in the conversation for sure. It will come down to whether McCarthy starts early in the season or not. If he does I'll make him co front runner with Caleb.

Don't care about McCarthy actually being a front runner for the award....long term sitting at least the first 3-4 would help him the most.

I think McCarthy is pretty ready actually, but the Vikings will have to play Darnold for a while to justify signing him.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:11:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Draft Kings has him in a 3-way tie for 6th (with Maye and Worthy) at +1600.

They have JJ 4th at +800

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/football/nfl?category=quick-sgp&subcategory=offensive-rookie-of-the-year

Yeah Caleb is the front runner. We haven't discussed him at all and I was forgetting about him. Harrison and Jayden Daniels are in the conversation for sure. It will come down to whether McCarthy starts early in the season or not. If he does I'll make him co front runner with Caleb.

Don't care about McCarthy actually being a front runner for the award....long term sitting at least the first 3-4 would help him the most.

I think McCarthy is pretty ready actually, but the Vikings will have to play Darnold for a while to justify signing him.

1/10 and they were upfront with Darnold....they didn't guarantee him money or a starting job actually.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:16:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Draft Kings has him in a 3-way tie for 6th (with Maye and Worthy) at +1600.

They have JJ 4th at +800

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/football/nfl?category=quick-sgp&subcategory=offensive-rookie-of-the-year

Yeah Caleb is the front runner. We haven't discussed him at all and I was forgetting about him. Harrison and Jayden Daniels are in the conversation for sure. It will come down to whether McCarthy starts early in the season or not. If he does I'll make him co front runner with Caleb.

Don't care about McCarthy actually being a front runner for the award....long term sitting at least the first 3-4 would help him the most.

I think McCarthy is pretty ready actually, but the Vikings will have to play Darnold for a while to justify signing him.

1/10 and they were upfront with Darnold....they didn't guarantee him money or a starting job actually.

They guaranteed him 9 million for this year. We are talking about this year. Why are you arguing this with me?

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:20:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Draft Kings has him in a 3-way tie for 6th (with Maye and Worthy) at +1600.

They have JJ 4th at +800

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/football/nfl?category=quick-sgp&subcategory=offensive-rookie-of-the-year

Yeah Caleb is the front runner. We haven't discussed him at all and I was forgetting about him. Harrison and Jayden Daniels are in the conversation for sure. It will come down to whether McCarthy starts early in the season or not. If he does I'll make him co front runner with Caleb.

Don't care about McCarthy actually being a front runner for the award....long term sitting at least the first 3-4 would help him the most.

I think McCarthy is pretty ready actually, but the Vikings will have to play Darnold for a while to justify signing him.

1/10 and they were upfront with Darnold....they didn't guarantee him money or a starting job actually.

They guaranteed him 9 million for this year. We are talking about this year. Why are you arguing this with me?

Not arguing at all. They don't have to justify playing Darnold. The Vikes now have 2 legit options. There were zero starting guarantees given to Darnold other than he would be given a chance at the starting job and he knew we were drafting a qb.

He was given 10 because that is what a borderline starter/top backup gets. Dobbs and Mullens got 1.5 -2 million for a reason.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:20:14 AM

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Best pick of the first round could end up being Nix in Denver. The Payton/Nix combo seems like a perfect fit. Looks a lot like Drew Brees on paper and film.

I love that pick too.

Hoping it gets Payton fired.

Nix is currently the front runner for Rookie of the Year. He may start by game 1 and no later than game 3. It all depends on how long it takes for McCarthy to start in Minnesota.

Who says he's the front runner Rookie of the Year? He's the weakest armed QB in the draft, who is in for a rude awakening when he can't throw 67% screens and bubble screens.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:21:07 AM 1 votes

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Offensive ROTY:

Draft Kings:
Caleb Williams: +200
Marvin Harrison Jr: +600
Jayden Daniels: +650
JJ McCarthy: +800
Malik Nabors: +900
Drake Maye: +1600
Xavier Worthy: +1600
Bo Nix: +1600

Fan Duel:
Caleb Williams: +210
Marvin Harrison Jr: +600
Jayden Daniels: +1000
JJ McCarthy: +1000
Malik Nabers: +1400
Cavier Worthy: +1600
Drake May: +2000
Rome Odunze: +2500
Brian Thomas Jr: +2500
Bo Nix: +3000

Defensive ROTY:

Fan Dual:
Dallas Turner: +450
Laitu Latu: +800
Jared Verse: +1000
Quinyon Mitchell: +1000
Terrion ARnold: +1000
Byron Murphy: +1200

Draft Kings:
Dallas Turner +400
Laitu Latu: +700
Quinyon Mitchell: +1000
Jared Verse: +1100
Chop Robinson: +1300
Byron Murphy II: +1300

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/football/nfl?category=awards&subcategory=droy
https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/nfl?tab=rookies

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:32:51 AM 1 votes

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Hollywood Brown 4.27 40 yard dash

Xavier Worthy 4.21 40 yard dash

Rashee Rice 119 mph

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:33:41 AM

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CJ Stroud said last night that Jonathan Greenard played a big role in mentoring DROTY Will Anderson Jr last season. He expects the same to happen on the Vikings with Dallas Turner.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:53:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Best pick of the first round could end up being Nix in Denver. The Payton/Nix combo seems like a perfect fit. Looks a lot like Drew Brees on paper and film.

I love that pick too.

Hoping it gets Payton fired.

Nix is currently the front runner for Rookie of the Year. He may start by game 1 and no later than game 3. It all depends on how long it takes for McCarthy to start in Minnesota.

Who says he's the front runner Rookie of the Year? He's the weakest armed QB in the draft, who is in for a rude awakening when he can't throw 67% screens and bubble screens.

Sweens Caleb is the front runner for RotY. Nix is a contender. Front runner was wrong.

Instead of acknowledging I was right about Nix and you were wrong you double down on how Nix Sucks. Maybe he does, but you called him a 2nd rounder and I said he would be drafted at 12. Why haven't you given me props on getting it exactly right? I would have been all about I was wrong and you were right if Nix had fallen to round 2.

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RE: 2024 Draft - 4/26/2024 11:58:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Offensive ROTY:

Draft Kings:
Caleb Williams: +200
Marvin Harrison Jr: +600
Jayden Daniels: +650
JJ McCarthy: +800
Malik Nabors: +900
Drake Maye: +1600
Xavier Worthy: +1600
Bo Nix: +1600

Fan Duel:
Caleb Williams: +210
Marvin Harrison Jr: +600
Jayden Daniels: +1000
JJ McCarthy: +1000
Malik Nabers: +1400
Cavier Worthy: +1600
Drake May: +2000
Rome Odunze: +2500
Brian Thomas Jr: +2500
Bo Nix: +3000

Defensive ROTY:

Fan Dual:
Dallas Turner: +450
Laitu Latu: +800
Jared Verse: +1000
Quinyon Mitchell: +1000
Terrion ARnold: +1000
Byron Murphy: +1200

Draft Kings:
Dallas Turner +400
Laitu Latu: +700
Quinyon Mitchell: +1000
Jared Verse: +1100
Chop Robinson: +1300
Byron Murphy II: +1300

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/football/nfl?category=awards&subcategory=droy
https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/nfl?tab=rookies

10 or more posts ago I already said Caleb is the Front Runner. I was a little overeager and forgetting about Caleb. I believe Nix to have the 2nd best shot at it. Harrison and Daniels are certainly in the discussion. If McCarthy gets the starting job soon he will jump to the top IMO.

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