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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/14/2024 10:57:20 AM

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sundays game is all about o'connell - if he calls a great game, we win....
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It was all about whether there would be a lot of pressure on Darnold. With Hutchinson out...and the rest of the Lions unable to generate pressure...we may have a significant advantage here.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/14/2024 1:28:37 PM

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Such a huge game.

The are we for real game.

I want to believe but falling flat here is so typically Vikings.

It hasn't happened yet.

Without Hutchinson the Lions struggle to generate pressure.
Despite a good Oline BFlo's confusion defense stymies and sacks Jared Goff 7 times and makes him make a lot of stupid throws.
Coming out of absolute pounding of Cowboys, Lions are overconfident. Vikings humble after nearly losing previous two games.

I see us winning at home coming off the bye.

It's all going to come down to not turning the ball over.

+1

I would expect some overly-aggressive play by their back 7 to account for this - and they are feeling a little cocky. Could be a number of PI opportunities and a chance to exploit that with some razzle-dazzle type plays.

Their offense is good and has a lot of balance, overall and within the run game, too. But Goff can be prone to some bonehead plays - we just have to create the environment for those plays.

The same mantra applies: limit penalties, win the turnover battle and win on 3rd down.

DET does well when they control the LOS - their gameplan is predicated on that - especially on offense.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/14/2024 1:32:22 PM

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The team has announced that offensive lineman Dalton Risner has been designated to return from injured reserve and can begin practicing with the team.

After signing with the Vikings early in the 2023 season, Risner re-signed with the team late in the offseason and went through camp with the team. When the time came for the Vikings to put together their final 53-man roster, the team chose to put him on injured reserve with the designation to return.

When the time does come for Risner to return, it will be interesting to see what the Vikings do with him as far as position and playing time is concerned. He was the starter for the Vikings at left guard last season, but Blake Brandel has taken over that spot this season and it doesn’t appear that he’s going to relinquish it any time soon. Right guard Ed Ingram has had his share of struggles in the early course of this season and could end up getting unseated by Risner at some point.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/14/2024 3:03:43 PM

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Couple of things that popped up today:

Interesting conversation about how strong of conference the NFC North is (after the Chicago, Detroit, and GB beat downs)

Blake Cashman has a brace on his leg...something writers hadn't recognized before.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/14/2024 3:11:04 PM

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Couple of things that popped up today:

Interesting conversation about how strong of conference the NFC North is (after the Chicago, Detroit, and GB beat downs)

Blake Cashman has a brace on his leg...something writers hadn't recognized before.

cashman: is the brace new...had he already been playing with it?....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/14/2024 3:16:34 PM

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Couple of things that popped up today:

Interesting conversation about how strong of conference the NFC North is (after the Chicago, Detroit, and GB beat downs)

Blake Cashman has a brace on his leg...something writers hadn't recognized before.

Elijah Torok
NFC North has the best record of any division since 1970 through week 6.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/14/2024 3:17:08 PM

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The top four teams in the league in point differential:

Vikings +63
Lions +60
Bears +47
Packers +41

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/14/2024 3:18:24 PM

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Bears are the least impressive of the teams.

All 4 of their wins are against 1 win teams.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/14/2024 3:37:49 PM

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Couple of things that popped up today:

Interesting conversation about how strong of conference the NFC North is (after the Chicago, Detroit, and GB beat downs)

Blake Cashman has a brace on his leg...something writers hadn't recognized before.

cashman: is the brace new...had he already been playing with it?....

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Vikings LB Blake Cashman was over on the side field jogging today. Had a brace on his right leg. Wouldn't put a ton into it yet, but will watch the injury report. He's been so good through five games.

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Blake Cashman is not practicing today. He's working with a trainer in a side field, right calf wrapped.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/14/2024 6:08:14 PM

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"My motivation level is through the roof," the sixth-year guard declared loudly following Monday's practice. "My motivation level is always going to be through the roof. … I have a lot I want to prove."

The Vikings opened Risner's 21-day evaluation window on Monday as the team returned to action from its Week 6 bye. Risner opened the season on short-term Injured Reserve after suffering a back injury during training camp. He is eligible to return to play at any point in the 21-day window that's used to evaluate his body's response to football activities.

Risner's recovery took longer than he would have preferred, he said, but he feels 100 percent and is excited to help the 5-0 Vikings however he can – even if it means switching sides of the offensive line and handling a different assignment.

"I'm comfortable at right and left, whatever guard position it is, truly whatever position they want me to play, I'm ready to go," Risner said. "You guys know I just want to play football – you know what I mean? I'm so grateful to be a Viking. Grateful to put the pads back on and go out there and move around today."

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/14/2024 6:16:14 PM

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jones playing would be huge....

Star Tribune‘s Ben Goessling tweeted Monday. “Aaron Jones is participating in the Vikings’ light practice as they return from their bye week. Good early sign for the running back after his hip injury in London. Didn’t see Blake Cashman or Harrison Phillips, though the Vikings can be cautious with a bit of a bonus day today.”

Furthermore, a source told VikingsTerritory that Jones “should be good to go” for Sunday’s game. The same source also indicated there’s almost no chance that Hockenson will play against Detroit, instead targeting Week 8 for the tight end’s return.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/15/2024 6:33:08 AM

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43 weeks - no chance
44 weeks - good to go

Meaning - he’s good to go.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/15/2024 6:37:43 AM

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Part of wanting this to keep going would be our Defense keeping Detroit in check a week after the curb stomped Zimmer’s D.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/15/2024 6:39:49 AM

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Winning this week for me means - yes, you (we) deserve nice things.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/15/2024 8:22:44 AM

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By a few accounts/metrics, Ingram is one of the worse guards in the NFL.

Enough with the excuses, he needs to be replaced. Pronto. Not sure what Risner has but get him in there.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/15/2024 9:56:15 AM

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"I'm comfortable at right and left, whatever guard position it is, truly whatever position they want me to play, I'm ready to go," Risner said

judd zulgad said that when he spoke to risner at training camp, risner told him; 'i've never played right guard in my life - college or pro'....

okay, if you can just rank 59th out of the 64 qualified list of guards on pff's ranking list, you're an improvement....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/15/2024 1:13:05 PM

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Reddick, 30, was acquired March 29 in a trade with the Philadelphia Eagles. In the final year of his contract, he's demanding an extension that will pay him commensurate with the top edge rushers. The Jets didn't renegotiate his contract at the time of the trade because they claimed he told them he'd play under his existing contract.

He has skipped all team events since the spring. He has forfeited $4.8 million in game checks, plus another $5 million in NFL-mandated fines. If he doesn't report by Week 13, he will not get credit for the season and his contract will toll, meaning his 2025 rights will belong to the Jets.

Finding a trading partner won't be easy because he's still owed $9.5 million (nonguaranteed) for the rest of the season, and he recently rejected a one-year proposal from the Jets that would've given him more than the $14.25 million he was due to make in base pay, a source said.

On the flip side, there's a demand for edge rushers. Reddick is a highly productive player, having recorded 50.5 sacks in the previous four seasons. The Jets traded a conditional 2026 third-round pick for him, thinking he'd be the final piece on a championship-caliber defense. On April 1, he did an introductory news conference, saying he was "happy" to be a Jet.

That was the last they've seen of him.

Hey whatever happened to Underwood?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/15/2024 2:11:23 PM

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Jets get Adams and Bills get Cooper.

Vikes maybe looking at DT, CB?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/15/2024 3:55:50 PM

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Jets get Adams and Bills get Cooper.

Vikes maybe looking at DT, CB?

Bills are like, yeah we better get a WR too.

Kwesi has to be sky high with a wallet full of cap and unused credit cards. Ah bummer, his draft pick wallet is so light it's practically floating.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/15/2024 4:05:55 PM

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Jets get Adams and Bills get Cooper.

Vikes maybe looking at DT, CB?

Bills are like, yeah we better get a WR too.

Kwesi has to be sky high with a wallet full of cap and unused credit cards. Ah bummer, his draft pick wallet is so light it's practically floating.

If Mike Williams is healthy I would take a flyer on him but there isn't any draft capital left.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/15/2024 4:08:37 PM

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Patrick Jones 16 tackles, 5 sacks, 1 FF
Dallas Turner 6 tackles, 1 sack, 0 FF

Here is what Kwesi invested for the latter:

To obtain the #23 pick...
2nd
6th
2nd
(7th to Vikings)

To move from #23 to #17...
5th
3rd
4th

So a 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th for Turner and a 7th to make Spielman happy.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/15/2024 4:12:38 PM

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Patrick Jones 16 tackles, 5 sacks, 1 FF
Dallas Turner 6 tackles, 1 sack, 0 FF

Here is what Kwesi invested for the latter:

To obtain the #23 pick...
2nd
6th
2nd
(7th to Vikings)

To move from #23 to #17...
5th
3rd
4th

So a 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th for Turner and a 7th to make Spielman happy.

Early returns aren't there but Turner was hurt and Jones has been on fire.

Also Jones is a UFA in 2025 at 27 years old (which might garner draft capital later) and Turner is still only 21....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/15/2024 4:18:33 PM

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It's not Mike Ditka trading his whole draft for Ricky Williams (minus a 2nd) plus a 1st and 3rd the next year... but it's damn close to an entire draft.

Injured for 1+ games, so we'll see.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/15/2024 4:20:15 PM

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Patrick Jones 16 tackles, 5 sacks, 1 FF
Dallas Turner 6 tackles, 1 sack, 0 FF

Here is what Kwesi invested for the latter:

To obtain the #23 pick...
2nd
6th
2nd
(7th to Vikings)

To move from #23 to #17...
5th
3rd
4th

So a 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th for Turner and a 7th to make Spielman happy.

Early returns aren't there but Turner was hurt and Jones has been on fire.

Also Jones is a UFA in 2025 at 27 years old (which might garner draft capital later) and Turner is still only 21....

Correct, early returns are not there.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 10/15/2024 4:22:12 PM

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Jets get Adams and Bills get Cooper.

Vikes maybe looking at DT, CB?

Bills are like, yeah we better get a WR too.

Kwesi has to be sky high with a wallet full of cap and unused credit cards. Ah bummer, his draft pick wallet is so light it's practically floating.

If Mike Williams is healthy I would take a flyer on him but there isn't any draft capital left.