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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:06:24 AM   
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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.

Scapegoat?

He is a deer in the headlights, wall flower, wilting Willy, sloth field reader, tunnel vision, crutch needing, drop back and take a 15yard sack, stat queen.. just… like.. KFC..

I wouldn’t sign him for vet minimum..

I’m so glad we are not paying him a ****ing dime going forward..

He S U C K S!…..

Just quit with the hyperbolic, 13-year-old speak. You sound like a bitter juvenile. Talk like an adult, and I'll be willing to have a conversation. If not, you can talk to yourself.
hyperbole?

I stand by my evaluation of SD because his “ 14 wins” .. were against the trash teams on our schedule…

Rams? Nope..

Detroit?

Nope..

What teams are still in the playoffs?

GB?

Nope..
Vikes? Nope..

14 wins.. and one and done..

Go masterbate in a corner with your waifu, SD boddy pillow, while the real adults discuss how to fix this mess, without a dipshit at QB…..Darnold GAVE UP 82 yards and 14 points on turnover, all by himself..

Sam sloth, single handedly LOST THE GAME..

BLOCK me..
Like I give a ****..
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:06:52 AM   
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I understand Vikings fans being upset. I get it. It's a loss in the playoffs.

However, I can't get behind the black and white argument that one person lost this game. That's just emotional and childish.


You mean what you have done with Kirk for say the 7 years he was here? It isn't emotional or childish.....it is proof from ESPN Research.
It is emotional or childish to not see the 2 qbs out there last night. One making the line checks and hot routes and making the throws and not taking the sacks....the other was Sam.

You have no idea of the conversations on the sidelines or the game plan. It's just more conspiracy theory nonsense that we have come to know from you.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:07:29 AM   
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Should have the foresight and balls to know Sam had folded his chair and wasn’t going to recover. Should have started Jones.

Mullens wouldn’t be my pick to start his wife’s company picnic pickup game.

Clean house!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:07:53 AM   
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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.

Scapegoat?

He is a deer in the headlights, wall flower, wilting Willy, sloth field reader, tunnel vision, crutch needing, drop back and take a 15yard sack, stat queen.. just… like.. KFC..

I wouldn’t sign him for vet minimum..

I’m so glad we are not paying him a ****ing dime going forward..

He S U C K S!…..

Just quit with the hyperbolic, 13-year-old speak. You sound like a bitter juvenile. Talk like an adult, and I'll be willing to have a conversation. If not, you can talk to yourself.
hyperbole?

I stand by my evaluation of SD because his “ 14 wins” .. were against the trash teams on our schedule…

Rams? Nope..

Detroit?

Nope..

What teams are still in the playoffs?

GB?

Nope..
Vikes? Nope..

14 wins.. and one and done..

Go masterbate in a corner with your waifu, SD boddy pillow, while the real adults discuss how to fix this mess, without a dipshit at QB…..Darnold GAVE UP 82 yards and 14 points on turnover, all by himself..

Sam sloth, single handedly LOST THE GAME..

BLOCK me..
Like I give a ****..

LOL. You're just incapable of it. It's almost funny to watch a guy melt down right in front of me. You look like the Vikings last night! I put a little pressure on you to be an adult and you can't do it.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:08:25 AM   
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Should have the foresight and balls to know Sam had folded his chair and wasn’t going to recover. Should have started Daniel’s.

Mullens wouldn’t be my pick to start his wife’s company picnic pickup game.

Clean house!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:12:27 AM   
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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.


It is all about the QB play in the playoffs.....you know the Kirk checkdown on 4th down when he was aces all game. That is the job. None of the 32 teams will give him more than 12-15 million....he has been exposed by the last 2 teams....blame KOC but he hid his weaknesses most of the season.

You can only do so much. Joe Montana wasn't winning that game. Kansas City is the only remaining team in the playoffs with an offensive line similar to the Vikings. Ultimately, it will be their undoing as well. But with Andy Reid and Mahomes they will find a way to make it interesting. Why? Because they understand their weaknesses and how to offset them.

O'Connell's time management and use of timeouts is just abysmal. I lost almost all faith in his leadership the past two weekends. His inability to adjust was the topper.

I'm not propping up O'Connell nor the oline, but you can't hold the ball for 6 seconds like Darnold was doing.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:15:54 AM   
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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.


It is all about the QB play in the playoffs.....you know the Kirk checkdown on 4th down when he was aces all game. That is the job. None of the 32 teams will give him more than 12-15 million....he has been exposed by the last 2 teams....blame KOC but he hid his weaknesses most of the season.

You can only do so much. Joe Montana wasn't winning that game. Kansas City is the only remaining team in the playoffs with an offensive line similar to the Vikings. Ultimately, it will be their undoing as well. But with Andy Reid and Mahomes they will find a way to make it interesting. Why? Because they understand their weaknesses and how to offset them.

O'Connell's time management and use of timeouts is just abysmal. I lost almost all faith in his leadership the past two weekends. His inability to adjust was the topper.

I'm not propping up O'Connell nor the oline, but you can't hold the ball for 6 seconds like Darnold was doing.

Darnold was struggling to see the field for sure. At least put someone else in if you see it isn't working. What do you have to lose. On top of that we rely too much on Jefferson and he wasn't getting separation on single coverage. KOC doesn't seem to ever adjust.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:16:36 AM   
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I understand Vikings fans being upset. I get it. It's a loss in the playoffs.

However, I can't get behind the black and white argument that one person lost this game. That's just emotional and childish.

One side of the ball, although not great, only allowed 20 points. The other allowed 7 and scored 9. Special teams as always did absolutely nothing. Which side of the ball does KOC leave alone? The one that actually did a good enough job to win. But some will never ditch the Golden Boy.


The defense also plays off of how Sam plays....You could see it against the Lions.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:17:06 AM   
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I understand Vikings fans being upset. I get it. It's a loss in the playoffs.

However, I can't get behind the black and white argument that one person lost this game. That's just emotional and childish.

One side of the ball, although not great, only allowed 20 points. The other allowed 7 and scored 9. Special teams as always did absolutely nothing. Which side of the ball does KOC leave alone? The one that actually did a good enough job to win. But some will never ditch the Golden Boy.

Precisely. Like I have been saying for weeks.....park a Brinks Truck in front of Brian Flores' house. The job he did with those guys was off the charts. Outside of the ridiculous off-sides penalty on the opening drive, they made enough plays to keep the team in the game.

O'Connell was out to lunch the entire game on offense, and has no idea how to control a clock (which has been evident for a long time). Even when they were on defense last night with about 11 minutes left and down three scores. The Rams were second and forever after all of the penalties. You knew McVay was just going to run it or play it close to the vest. Why didn't he burn his timeouts? Instead, he just let two periods of 40 seconds burn off the clock, as if he had another quarter of football to play. You know McVay is not going to take chances. O'Connell just froze, with a pouting look on his face.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:18:03 AM   
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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.


It is all about the QB play in the playoffs.....you know the Kirk checkdown on 4th down when he was aces all game. That is the job. None of the 32 teams will give him more than 12-15 million....he has been exposed by the last 2 teams....blame KOC but he hid his weaknesses most of the season.

You can only do so much. Joe Montana wasn't winning that game. Kansas City is the only remaining team in the playoffs with an offensive line similar to the Vikings. Ultimately, it will be their undoing as well. But with Andy Reid and Mahomes they will find a way to make it interesting. Why? Because they understand their weaknesses and how to offset them.

O'Connell's time management and use of timeouts is just abysmal. I lost almost all faith in his leadership the past two weekends. His inability to adjust was the topper.

I'm not propping up O'Connell nor the oline, but you can't hold the ball for 6 seconds like Darnold was doing.

Darnold was struggling to see the field for sure. At least put someone else in if you see it isn't working. What do you have to lose. On top of that we rely too much on Jefferson and he wasn't getting separation on single coverage. KOC doesn't seem to ever adjust.


KOC calls the original play and the mic cuts out with 10-15 seconds left. Then the QB calls the check downs, Block adjustments, and hot routes. Sam was the one not adjusting to the blitzes.

Same with the QB of every team. You know what Stafford was doing successfully....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:18:08 AM   
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I understand Vikings fans being upset. I get it. It's a loss in the playoffs.

However, I can't get behind the black and white argument that one person lost this game. That's just emotional and childish.

One side of the ball, although not great, only allowed 20 points. The other allowed 7 and scored 9. Special teams as always did absolutely nothing. Which side of the ball does KOC leave alone? The one that actually did a good enough job to win. But some will never ditch the Golden Boy.


The defense also plays off of how Sam plays....You could see it against the Lions.

The defense holding them to 20 seems reasonable. I'd probably have signed up for that. The offensive side of the ball failed miserably for the 2nd week in a row.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:18:30 AM   
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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.


It is all about the QB play in the playoffs.....you know the Kirk checkdown on 4th down when he was aces all game. That is the job. None of the 32 teams will give him more than 12-15 million....he has been exposed by the last 2 teams....blame KOC but he hid his weaknesses most of the season.

You can only do so much. Joe Montana wasn't winning that game. Kansas City is the only remaining team in the playoffs with an offensive line similar to the Vikings. Ultimately, it will be their undoing as well. But with Andy Reid and Mahomes they will find a way to make it interesting. Why? Because they understand their weaknesses and how to offset them.

O'Connell's time management and use of timeouts is just abysmal. I lost almost all faith in his leadership the past two weekends. His inability to adjust was the topper.

I'm not propping up O'Connell nor the oline, but you can't hold the ball for 6 seconds like Darnold was doing.

They did it all season and won 14 games. The coach didn't adjust the game plan.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:19:25 AM   
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Anyone want to throw picks over to us for Kevin now?


I’d have mad respect for the Wilfs if they recognize the trap we’re laying to stay in purgatory. Trade KOC, fire Kwesi and rebuild right.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:19:48 AM   
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At the end of the day, this is a terrible offensive line. I think we can all agree on that.

If the Vikings are going to turn the ball over to McCarthy, Jones or quarterback X, they had better get a lot better up front.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:21:15 AM   
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I hope if Dam Darnold is walking around anywhere people kick and spit at him. Kids cry and point.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:21:34 AM   
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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.


It is all about the QB play in the playoffs.....you know the Kirk checkdown on 4th down when he was aces all game. That is the job. None of the 32 teams will give him more than 12-15 million....he has been exposed by the last 2 teams....blame KOC but he hid his weaknesses most of the season.

You can only do so much. Joe Montana wasn't winning that game. Kansas City is the only remaining team in the playoffs with an offensive line similar to the Vikings. Ultimately, it will be their undoing as well. But with Andy Reid and Mahomes they will find a way to make it interesting. Why? Because they understand their weaknesses and how to offset them.

O'Connell's time management and use of timeouts is just abysmal. I lost almost all faith in his leadership the past two weekends. His inability to adjust was the topper.

I'm not propping up O'Connell nor the oline, but you can't hold the ball for 6 seconds like Darnold was doing.

Darnold was struggling to see the field for sure. At least put someone else in if you see it isn't working. What do you have to lose. On top of that we rely too much on Jefferson and he wasn't getting separation on single coverage. KOC doesn't seem to ever adjust.


KOC calls the original play and the mic cuts out with 10-15 seconds left. Then the QB calls the check downs, Block adjustments, and hot routes. Sam was the one not adjusting to the blitzes.

Same with the QB of every team. You know what Stafford was doing successfully....

So you just can't pull Darnold no matter what? Of course it probably wouldn't have mattered but you owe it to the team to try. On top of that he left the starters out all last week and for what??
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:21:54 AM   
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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.


It is all about the QB play in the playoffs.....you know the Kirk checkdown on 4th down when he was aces all game. That is the job. None of the 32 teams will give him more than 12-15 million....he has been exposed by the last 2 teams....blame KOC but he hid his weaknesses most of the season.

You can only do so much. Joe Montana wasn't winning that game. Kansas City is the only remaining team in the playoffs with an offensive line similar to the Vikings. Ultimately, it will be their undoing as well. But with Andy Reid and Mahomes they will find a way to make it interesting. Why? Because they understand their weaknesses and how to offset them.

O'Connell's time management and use of timeouts is just abysmal. I lost almost all faith in his leadership the past two weekends. His inability to adjust was the topper.

I'm not propping up O'Connell nor the oline, but you can't hold the ball for 6 seconds like Darnold was doing.

Darnold was struggling to see the field for sure. At least put someone else in if you see it isn't working. What do you have to lose. On top of that we rely too much on Jefferson and he wasn't getting separation on single coverage. KOC doesn't seem to ever adjust.

Agree. I was calling for Mullins in the 2nd qtr because clearly Sam wasn't going to get the job done. I'm not saying Mullins would have but as a HC don't you owe it to your players to try?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:23:02 AM   
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I’d have mad respect for the Wilfs if they recognize the trap we’re laying to stay in purgatory. Trade KOC, fire Kwesi and rebuild right.


You are nuts. Remember what happened with Zimmer his last year and what has happened 2 of the 3 years KOC has done w/o as much talent. Kwesi getting fired could be a possibility with Flores being FO/DC.

KOC is a top coach....he has done it with Kirk and Darnold.

KOC, Kwesi, and Flores let Kirk and Hunter walk and improved the roster. Worth another offseason. Now getting rid of KOC and Kwesi would be emotional.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:23:06 AM   
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I hope if Dam Darnold is walking around anywhere people kick and spit at him. Kids cry and point.

That a boy. You tell em. Just like on the playground in sixth grade.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:23:51 AM   
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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.


It is all about the QB play in the playoffs.....you know the Kirk checkdown on 4th down when he was aces all game. That is the job. None of the 32 teams will give him more than 12-15 million....he has been exposed by the last 2 teams....blame KOC but he hid his weaknesses most of the season.

You can only do so much. Joe Montana wasn't winning that game. Kansas City is the only remaining team in the playoffs with an offensive line similar to the Vikings. Ultimately, it will be their undoing as well. But with Andy Reid and Mahomes they will find a way to make it interesting. Why? Because they understand their weaknesses and how to offset them.

O'Connell's time management and use of timeouts is just abysmal. I lost almost all faith in his leadership the past two weekends. His inability to adjust was the topper.

I'm not propping up O'Connell nor the oline, but you can't hold the ball for 6 seconds like Darnold was doing.

Darnold was struggling to see the field for sure. At least put someone else in if you see it isn't working. What do you have to lose. On top of that we rely too much on Jefferson and he wasn't getting separation on single coverage. KOC doesn't seem to ever adjust.


KOC calls the original play and the mic cuts out with 10-15 seconds left. Then the QB calls the check downs, Block adjustments, and hot routes. Sam was the one not adjusting to the blitzes.

Same with the QB of every team. You know what Stafford was doing successfully....

So you just can't pull Darnold no matter what? Of course it probably wouldn't have mattered but you owe it to the team to try. On top of that he left the starters out all last week and for what??


Mullens?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:24:07 AM   
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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.


It is all about the QB play in the playoffs.....you know the Kirk checkdown on 4th down when he was aces all game. That is the job. None of the 32 teams will give him more than 12-15 million....he has been exposed by the last 2 teams....blame KOC but he hid his weaknesses most of the season.

You can only do so much. Joe Montana wasn't winning that game. Kansas City is the only remaining team in the playoffs with an offensive line similar to the Vikings. Ultimately, it will be their undoing as well. But with Andy Reid and Mahomes they will find a way to make it interesting. Why? Because they understand their weaknesses and how to offset them.

O'Connell's time management and use of timeouts is just abysmal. I lost almost all faith in his leadership the past two weekends. His inability to adjust was the topper.

I'm not propping up O'Connell nor the oline, but you can't hold the ball for 6 seconds like Darnold was doing.

Darnold was struggling to see the field for sure. At least put someone else in if you see it isn't working. What do you have to lose. On top of that we rely too much on Jefferson and he wasn't getting separation on single coverage. KOC doesn't seem to ever adjust.

Agree. I was calling for Mullins in the 2nd qtr because clearly Sam wasn't going to get the job done. I'm not saying Mullins would have but as a HC don't you owe it to your players to try?

Exactly! At least go down as a fighter. Not a eunuch.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:24:08 AM   
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Anyone want to throw picks over to us for Kevin now?
I’d have mad respect for the Wilfs if they recognize the trap we’re laying to stay in purgatory. Trade KOC, fire Kwesi and rebuild right.


You are nuts. Remember what happened with Zimmer his last year and what has happened 2 of the 3 years KOC has done w/o as much talent. Kwesi getting fired could be a possibility with Flores being FO/DC.

KOC is a top coach....he has done it with Kirk and Darnold.

He has done what? You keep saying winning in the playoffs is the only thing that matters.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:25:03 AM   
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It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.


It is all about the QB play in the playoffs.....you know the Kirk checkdown on 4th down when he was aces all game. That is the job. None of the 32 teams will give him more than 12-15 million....he has been exposed by the last 2 teams....blame KOC but he hid his weaknesses most of the season.

You can only do so much. Joe Montana wasn't winning that game. Kansas City is the only remaining team in the playoffs with an offensive line similar to the Vikings. Ultimately, it will be their undoing as well. But with Andy Reid and Mahomes they will find a way to make it interesting. Why? Because they understand their weaknesses and how to offset them.

O'Connell's time management and use of timeouts is just abysmal. I lost almost all faith in his leadership the past two weekends. His inability to adjust was the topper.

I'm not propping up O'Connell nor the oline, but you can't hold the ball for 6 seconds like Darnold was doing.

Darnold was struggling to see the field for sure. At least put someone else in if you see it isn't working. What do you have to lose. On top of that we rely too much on Jefferson and he wasn't getting separation on single coverage. KOC doesn't seem to ever adjust.


KOC calls the original play and the mic cuts out with 10-15 seconds left. Then the QB calls the check downs, Block adjustments, and hot routes. Sam was the one not adjusting to the blitzes.

Same with the QB of every team. You know what Stafford was doing successfully....

So you just can't pull Darnold no matter what? Of course it probably wouldn't have mattered but you owe it to the team to try. On top of that he left the starters out all last week and for what??


Mullens?

That's a very well reasoned response.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:26:10 AM   
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Anyone want to throw picks over to us for Kevin now?
I’d have mad respect for the Wilfs if they recognize the trap we’re laying to stay in purgatory. Trade KOC, fire Kwesi and rebuild right.


You are nuts. Remember what happened with Zimmer his last year and what has happened 2 of the 3 years KOC has done w/o as much talent. Kwesi getting fired could be a possibility with Flores being FO/DC.

KOC is a top coach....he has done it with Kirk and Darnold.

He has done what? You keep saying winning in the playoffs is the only thing that matters.


He has done more with less.....Your guy Sam is proof. Now you are scapegoating KOC. You give Sam all the credit for the regular season but none of the blame for the playoff loss?

Yes KOC needs to take blame but playoffs are executing plays. Now if you don't understand that. Head to twitter and read Kevin Seifert's comment from ESPN Research.

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 1/14/2025 8:29:21 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 1/14/2025 8:27:13 AM   
Phil Riewer


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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

It’s 1000% Sam the bum Darnold won’t be back.

You are probably right on that. He'll be the scapegoat after winning 14 games.


It is all about the QB play in the playoffs.....you know the Kirk checkdown on 4th down when he was aces all game. That is the job. None of the 32 teams will give him more than 12-15 million....he has been exposed by the last 2 teams....blame KOC but he hid his weaknesses most of the season.

You can only do so much. Joe Montana wasn't winning that game. Kansas City is the only remaining team in the playoffs with an offensive line similar to the Vikings. Ultimately, it will be their undoing as well. But with Andy Reid and Mahomes they will find a way to make it interesting. Why? Because they understand their weaknesses and how to offset them.

O'Connell's time management and use of timeouts is just abysmal. I lost almost all faith in his leadership the past two weekends. His inability to adjust was the topper.

I'm not propping up O'Connell nor the oline, but you can't hold the ball for 6 seconds like Darnold was doing.

Darnold was struggling to see the field for sure. At least put someone else in if you see it isn't working. What do you have to lose. On top of that we rely too much on Jefferson and he wasn't getting separation on single coverage. KOC doesn't seem to ever adjust.


KOC calls the original play and the mic cuts out with 10-15 seconds left. Then the QB calls the check downs, Block adjustments, and hot routes. Sam was the one not adjusting to the blitzes.

Same with the QB of every team. You know what Stafford was doing successfully....

So you just can't pull Darnold no matter what? Of course it probably wouldn't have mattered but you owe it to the team to try. On top of that he left the starters out all last week and for what??


Mullens?

That's a very well reasoned response.


I don't think they could get Jones ready.....they knew Sam was their best shot.

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