RE: General Vikes Talk

Talk Vikes and Other MN Sports

Forums Register Login My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums

Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ Ticket List Log Out

RE: General Vikes Talk

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [The Minnesota Vikings] >> Vikes Talk >> RE: General Vikes Talk

Page: << < prev 229 230 [231] 232 233 next > >>

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/10/2025 2:14:27 PM

Phil Riewer

Posts: 28596
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

So this morning's conclusion from Phil is when your team has a plethora of high-cost, old veteran deadwood needing to be cut in order to get on the right side of the cap, hoping for/posting about such cuts equates to.. you guessed it... tanking.

You did talk about Harry, Kendricks, and others that were old....but you know it wasn't just the old guys. You can conclude what makes you feel better I guess.

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq

Post #: 5751

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/10/2025 3:28:57 PM

Bill Johanesen

Posts: 29584
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

So this morning's conclusion from Phil is when your team has a plethora of high-cost, old veteran deadwood needing to be cut in order to get on the right side of the cap, hoping for/posting about such cuts equates to.. you guessed it... tanking.

You did talk about Harry, Kendricks, and others that were old....but you know it wasn't just the old guys. You can conclude what makes you feel better I guess.

The conclusion is simply you are taking some sad pleasure in distorting my posts and thoughts. There is no need to feel better about any conclusion because I know the words, intentions, and reasoning of the posts.

It wasn't just the old guys. Really? Oh so tell all-knowing one. So I wanted Darrisaw gone? Addison gone? Bynum gone? Any other valuable core player who wasn't an underperforming, high priced vet... gone?

Provide just one post showing this.

What are you trying to prove? Do you need validation? A win of some sort?

In the meantime, take a lesson in sports tanking vs. rebuilding. Wait, that however would require critical thinking, which you lack, so forget that idea.

< Message edited by Bill Johanesen -- 2/10/2025 6:04:25 PM >

Post #: 5752

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/10/2025 6:02:24 PM

Bill Johanesen

Posts: 29584
Status: offline

Biggest winner from SB LIX: 4-man pass rush.

Post #: 5753

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 12:43:10 AM

JT2

Posts: 13772
Joined: 2/15/2011
From: United States
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Biggest winner from SB LIX: 4-man pass rush.

Yeah, how impressive was that.

Post #: 5754

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 6:38:13 AM

Bill Jandro

Posts: 17979
Joined: 8/13/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

I am not very tech savvy:

Is there a way I can set things up to where I only read what someone posted last, with out the long white quotations that come with it ?

Funny, I was thinking the same thing. But can't be done on our end Marty. I believe the program for this forum would have to be modified.

I know on some pro-boards I post on it only displays about 3 quotes and the older quotes fall off automatically.

_____________________________

Oline...early and often this draft

Post #: 5755

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 6:41:17 AM

Bill Jandro

Posts: 17979
Joined: 8/13/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: JT2

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Biggest winner from SB LIX: 4-man pass rush.

Yeah, how impressive was that.

Howie Roseman just flat out values the trenches. Jalen Carter falling to them in the draft didn't hurt.

_____________________________

Oline...early and often this draft

Post #: 5756

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 7:51:02 AM

eagleflorida

Posts: 1636
Joined: 12/23/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

I am not very tech savvy:

Is there a way I can set things up to where I only read what someone posted last, with out the long white quotations that come with it ?

Funny, I was thinking the same thing. But can't be done on our end Marty. I believe the program for this forum would have to be modified.

I know on some pro-boards I post on it only displays about 3 quotes and the older quotes fall off automatically.

I totally agree with you guys on how annoying it is to see the lengthy posts keep getting lengthier as heck. I'm not very tech savvy but I thought you could delete older portions of quotes prior to posting in I fact I thought I had done that in the past.

Post #: 5757

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 8:15:04 AM

Bill Johanesen

Posts: 29584
Status: offline

OK, here's a truncated version of yesterday's to and fro with Phil:

Weird many said tank last year and now they should of beat everyone this year.

Many were not calling for a tank last year (the offseason of 2023). Rather, they were calling for a rebuild. There were differing opinions of how extensive that rebuild should have been and more than a few posters wanted to target the overpriced and underachieving vets, but the point a rebuild has a different meaning and context than a tank.

That should do it.

Post #: 5758

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 9:39:44 AM

Brad H

Posts: 23495
Joined: 8/16/2007
From: Parts Unknown
Status: online

I said going into the playoffs that the two worst offensive lines in the playoffs were the Vikings and the Chiefs, and that it would be the ultimate undoing of the Vikings down the stretch. The Vikings nearly got their quarterback killed and the fans completely bailed on him following the loss. The Chiefs did the same to Mahomes in the Super Bowl and their fans are hammering the offensive line.

Different fan bases with different perspective.

Minnesota won 15 games with that quarterback and offensive line. Kansas City won 16 with that quarterback and offensive line. Only one of the franchises is going to be dumb enough to bail on their quarterback.

< Message edited by Brad H -- 2/11/2025 9:42:00 AM >

_____________________________

Defense starts at the corners!

Post #: 5759

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 11:08:19 AM

timz

Posts: 504
Joined: 11/15/2007
Status: offline

Mahomes take:https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=970574178374422

Post #: 5760

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 12:06:01 PM

David Levine

Posts: 78427
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Las Vegas
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Biggest winner from SB LIX: 4-man pass rush.

As dominant of a front 4 performance that I can remember seeing in years.

The overwhelming pressure they got on every snap without needing to ever blitz.

Next biggest winner has to be Cooper DeJean.

What a great story. Rookie CB. Had a pick six. In the Super Bowl. Off Patrick Mahomes. ON. HIS. BIRTHDAY.

This kid is never going to have anyone he meets 1-up his story.

Post #: 5761

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 12:06:43 PM

David Levine

Posts: 78427
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Las Vegas
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

I said going into the playoffs that the two worst offensive lines in the playoffs were the Vikings and the Chiefs, and that it would be the ultimate undoing of the Vikings down the stretch. The Vikings nearly got their quarterback killed and the fans completely bailed on him following the loss. The Chiefs did the same to Mahomes in the Super Bowl and their fans are hammering the offensive line.

Different fan bases with different perspective.

Minnesota won 15 games with that quarterback and offensive line. Kansas City won 16 with that quarterback and offensive line. Only one of the franchises is going to be dumb enough to bail on their quarterback.

Yeah. Mahomes and Darnold have very similar resumes.

Post #: 5762

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 4:16:23 PM

Richard Neussendorfer

Posts: 20352
Joined: 12/7/2007
From: Alamogordo, NM
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

I said going into the playoffs that the two worst offensive lines in the playoffs were the Vikings and the Chiefs, and that it would be the ultimate undoing of the Vikings down the stretch. The Vikings nearly got their quarterback killed and the fans completely bailed on him following the loss. The Chiefs did the same to Mahomes in the Super Bowl and their fans are hammering the offensive line.

Different fan bases with different perspective.

Minnesota won 15 games with that quarterback and offensive line. Kansas City won 16 with that quarterback and offensive line. Only one of the franchises is going to be dumb enough to bail on their quarterback.

Where did the 15th win come from? I thought it was 14.

Post #: 5763

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 4:18:38 PM

Mark Anderson

Posts: 12307
Joined: 9/1/2007
Status: online

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

I said going into the playoffs that the two worst offensive lines in the playoffs were the Vikings and the Chiefs, and that it would be the ultimate undoing of the Vikings down the stretch. The Vikings nearly got their quarterback killed and the fans completely bailed on him following the loss. The Chiefs did the same to Mahomes in the Super Bowl and their fans are hammering the offensive line.

Different fan bases with different perspective.

Minnesota won 15 games with that quarterback and offensive line. Kansas City won 16 with that quarterback and offensive line. Only one of the franchises is going to be dumb enough to bail on their quarterback.

Where did the 15th win come from? I thought it was 14.

Bonus win for playing at USC

Post #: 5764

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 5:40:07 PM

Tom Sykes

Posts: 5978
Joined: 7/27/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

I said going into the playoffs that the two worst offensive lines in the playoffs were the Vikings and the Chiefs, and that it would be the ultimate undoing of the Vikings down the stretch. The Vikings nearly got their quarterback killed and the fans completely bailed on him following the loss. The Chiefs did the same to Mahomes in the Super Bowl and their fans are hammering the offensive line.

Different fan bases with different perspective.

Minnesota won 15 games with that quarterback and offensive line. Kansas City won 16 with that quarterback and offensive line. Only one of the franchises is going to be dumb enough to bail on their quarterback.

Where did the 15th win come from? I thought it was 14.

Bonus win for playing at USC

Nice!

Post #: 5765

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 6:17:26 PM

Phil Riewer

Posts: 28596
Joined: 8/24/2007
From: MN
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

I said going into the playoffs that the two worst offensive lines in the playoffs were the Vikings and the Chiefs, and that it would be the ultimate undoing of the Vikings down the stretch. The Vikings nearly got their quarterback killed and the fans completely bailed on him following the loss. The Chiefs did the same to Mahomes in the Super Bowl and their fans are hammering the offensive line.

Different fan bases with different perspective.

Minnesota won 15 games with that quarterback and offensive line. Kansas City won 16 with that quarterback and offensive line. Only one of the franchises is going to be dumb enough to bail on their quarterback.

We don’t hate the guy. We are willing to resign him again for 10-15. The problem his is how much. Maybe you can email him and ask him to take less?

We will happily have him compete for the job.

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 2/12/2025 7:55:09 AM >

_____________________________

SSG Riewer, Greg A Co 2/136 CAB
KIA 23 March 2007 Habbaniyah Iraq

Post #: 5766

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 6:52:50 PM

Bill Jandro

Posts: 17979
Joined: 8/13/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

I said going into the playoffs that the two worst offensive lines in the playoffs were the Vikings and the Chiefs, and that it would be the ultimate undoing of the Vikings down the stretch. The Vikings nearly got their quarterback killed and the fans completely bailed on him following the loss. The Chiefs did the same to Mahomes in the Super Bowl and their fans are hammering the offensive line.

Different fan bases with different perspective.

Minnesota won 15 games with that quarterback and offensive line. Kansas City won 16 with that quarterback and offensive line. Only one of the franchises is going to be dumb enough to bail on their quarterback.

Yeah. Mahomes and Darnold have very similar resumes.

Mahommes did look a lot like Darnold esp in the first half.

Dude was completely rattled and his footwork and throwing mechanics were gone resulting in 2 picks.

_____________________________

Oline...early and often this draft

Post #: 5767

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 7:01:08 PM

David Levine

Posts: 78427
Joined: 7/14/2007
From: Las Vegas
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

I said going into the playoffs that the two worst offensive lines in the playoffs were the Vikings and the Chiefs, and that it would be the ultimate undoing of the Vikings down the stretch. The Vikings nearly got their quarterback killed and the fans completely bailed on him following the loss. The Chiefs did the same to Mahomes in the Super Bowl and their fans are hammering the offensive line.

Different fan bases with different perspective.

Minnesota won 15 games with that quarterback and offensive line. Kansas City won 16 with that quarterback and offensive line. Only one of the franchises is going to be dumb enough to bail on their quarterback.

Yeah. Mahomes and Darnold have very similar resumes.

Mahommes did look a lot like Darnold esp in the first half.

Dude was completely rattled and his footwork and throwing mechanics were gone resulting in 2 picks.

Absolutely.

But he gets the benefit of the doubt considering how many big games he's won.

I also don't think Sam was under anywhere near the pressure in his final 2 games as Mahomes was in the Super Bowl.

Sam was constantly holding the ball too long (while avoiding all the short/under stuff), Mahomes had guys all over him from the snap.

Post #: 5768

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 7:38:15 PM

Bill Jandro

Posts: 17979
Joined: 8/13/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: David Levine

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

I said going into the playoffs that the two worst offensive lines in the playoffs were the Vikings and the Chiefs, and that it would be the ultimate undoing of the Vikings down the stretch. The Vikings nearly got their quarterback killed and the fans completely bailed on him following the loss. The Chiefs did the same to Mahomes in the Super Bowl and their fans are hammering the offensive line.

Different fan bases with different perspective.

Minnesota won 15 games with that quarterback and offensive line. Kansas City won 16 with that quarterback and offensive line. Only one of the franchises is going to be dumb enough to bail on their quarterback.

Yeah. Mahomes and Darnold have very similar resumes.

Mahommes did look a lot like Darnold esp in the first half.

Dude was completely rattled and his footwork and throwing mechanics were gone resulting in 2 picks.

Absolutely.

But he gets the benefit of the doubt considering how many big games he's won.

I also don't think Sam was under anywhere near the pressure in his final 2 games as Mahomes was in the Super Bowl.

Sam was constantly holding the ball too long (while avoiding all the short/under stuff), Mahomes had guys all over him from the snap.

Incredible that the Philly front four did that all game. Sam had the short routes available being Det was blitzing constantly. Mahomes didn't have that luxury.

That's a big overlook in Brad's bad argument.

_____________________________

Oline...early and often this draft

Post #: 5769

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 10:35:22 PM

marty

Posts: 13274
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

The resumes are just a little different when you consider Sam has never won a playoff game, and lost a big game that would have given the Vikings home field and a bye, while Mahomes has gotten a few byes, won some playoff games to get to 5 Super Bowls in 6 years, and won 3 of them.

I thought I saw a stat on ESPN that said that Mahome's teams have been behind by 10 or more points in each of his 5 Super Bowl appearances.

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 5770

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 10:36:57 PM

marty

Posts: 13274
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

Do the Vikings get an extra win for winning all 3 of their preseason games ?

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 5771

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/11/2025 10:41:11 PM

marty

Posts: 13274
Joined: 12/28/2007
Status: offline

If it's true that Mahome's teams have all been behind by 10 or more points in all 5 of the Super Bowls he played in, then there is a similarity with the two: Darnold's teams have been behind by 10 or more in each playoff game where he played, and in each game he appeared in where a first round bye was possible.

_____________________________

SKOL to the BOWL !!!

Post #: 5772

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/12/2025 7:12:17 AM

TJSweens

Posts: 45247
Joined: 7/16/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: marty

If it's true that Mahome's teams have all been behind by 10 or more points in all 5 of the Super Bowls he played in, then there is a similarity with the two: Darnold's teams have been behind by 10 or more in each playoff game where he played, and in each game he appeared in where a first round bye was possible.

Well there you go. Of course the difference is where Mahomes led furious comebacks, Sam curled up in the fetal position.

_____________________________

"The eternal fate of the noble and enlightened: to be brutally crushed by the armed and dumb."

Post #: 5773

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/12/2025 7:37:03 AM

eagleflorida

Posts: 1636
Joined: 12/23/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

OK, here's a truncated version of yesterday's to and fro with Phil:

Weird many said tank last year and now they should of beat everyone this year.

Many were not calling for a tank last year (the offseason of 2023). Rather, they were calling for a rebuild. There were differing opinions of how extensive that rebuild should have been and more than a few posters wanted to target the overpriced and underachieving vets, but the point a rebuild has a different meaning and context than a tank.

That should do it.

If that was in response to my post previously thank you Bill. I couldn't think of the word truncated. Seems like a logical good solution and help make the board easier to keep up with and follow.

Post #: 5774

RE: General Vikes Talk - 2/12/2025 8:52:09 AM

Brad H

Posts: 23495
Joined: 8/16/2007
From: Parts Unknown
Status: online

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

I said going into the playoffs that the two worst offensive lines in the playoffs were the Vikings and the Chiefs, and that it would be the ultimate undoing of the Vikings down the stretch. The Vikings nearly got their quarterback killed and the fans completely bailed on him following the loss. The Chiefs did the same to Mahomes in the Super Bowl and their fans are hammering the offensive line.

Different fan bases with different perspective.

Minnesota won 15 games with that quarterback and offensive line. Kansas City won 16 with that quarterback and offensive line. Only one of the franchises is going to be dumb enough to bail on their quarterback.

Where did the 15th win come from? I thought it was 14.

Bonus win for playing at USC

I see you guys found a mistake in my post. Congrats on that. I did notice, however, you weren't arguing the point I was making.

_____________________________

Defense starts at the corners!

Post #: 5775