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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 11:11:19 AM   
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Name me a worse starting quarterback option in the NFC right now than JJ McCarthy.

Tyler Shouch
maybe Marcus Mariota

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 11:22:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Name me a worse starting quarterback option in the NFC right now than JJ McCarthy.

Tyler Shouch
maybe Marcus Mariota


Where was this post last week?
So every week the Vikes lose you aren't as busy?

Sam Darnold's career playoff victories.....0.
1 less than Kirk Cousins. Also 1 less than Danny Dimes.

Sam Darnold Week 18 18/41 166 yards 0 Tds 55.5 rating. WC Playoff game 25/40 245 yards 1 TD 1 Int 77.6 rating.

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 11/10/2025 11:41:28 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 11:40:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

Name me a worse starting quarterback option in the NFC right now than JJ McCarthy.

Tyler Shouch
maybe Marcus Mariota


Where was this post last week?
So every week the Vikes lose you aren't as busy?

Sam Darnold's career playoff victories.....0.
1 less than Kirk Cousins. Also 1 less than Danny Dimes.



Exactly.

So what should we do about it Brad? Start Brosmer? Or should we keep working on the development of our QB?

I'm sorry, I am not willing to abandon this QB after just four games. Most QBs go through these growing pains.

So where are those QB ratings for every Great QB after four games I asked you for?

Or is all you care about getting people to say, golly gee you're right, or are you going to put out another bullshit blanket statement that if nobody comments that they are agreeing with you?

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 11:48:38 AM   
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% of throws off target All rookies or 2nd year

30. Bo Nix (18.5%)
31. Cam Ward (20.2%)
32. Caleb Williams (20.8%)
33. Michael Penix (23.1%)

N/A McCarthy (22.1)
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 11:48:39 AM   
Brad H


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

Name me a worse starting quarterback option in the NFC right now than JJ McCarthy.

Tyler Shouch
maybe Marcus Mariota


Where was this post last week?
So every week the Vikes lose you aren't as busy?

Sam Darnold's career playoff victories.....0.
1 less than Kirk Cousins. Also 1 less than Danny Dimes.



Exactly.

So what should we do about it Brad? Start Brosmer? Or should we keep working on the development of our QB?

I'm sorry, I am not willing to abandon this QB after just four games. Most QBs go through these growing pains.

So where are those QB ratings for every Great QB after four games I asked you for?

Or is all you care about getting people to say, golly gee you're right, or are you going to put out another bullshit blanket statement that if nobody comments that they are agreeing with you?

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We had the answer and got emotional after a playoff loss.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 11:50:03 AM   
Phil Riewer


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

Name me a worse starting quarterback option in the NFC right now than JJ McCarthy.

Tyler Shouch
maybe Marcus Mariota


Where was this post last week?
So every week the Vikes lose you aren't as busy?

Sam Darnold's career playoff victories.....0.
1 less than Kirk Cousins. Also 1 less than Danny Dimes.



Exactly.

So what should we do about it Brad? Start Brosmer? Or should we keep working on the development of our QB?

I'm sorry, I am not willing to abandon this QB after just four games. Most QBs go through these growing pains.

So where are those QB ratings for every Great QB after four games I asked you for?

Or is all you care about getting people to say, golly gee you're right, or are you going to put out another bullshit blanket statement that if nobody comments that they are agreeing with you?

14-3

We had the answer and got emotional after a playoff loss.


Answer for what?
Did he win a playoff game or essential home game yet for Seattle? LA Rams are on the schedule next week but that isn't a year end game.

Sam still has 0 playoff wins. (last I checked).

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 11/10/2025 11:52:35 AM >


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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 11:53:01 AM   
Brad H


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

Name me a worse starting quarterback option in the NFC right now than JJ McCarthy.

Tyler Shouch
maybe Marcus Mariota


Where was this post last week?
So every week the Vikes lose you aren't as busy?

Sam Darnold's career playoff victories.....0.
1 less than Kirk Cousins. Also 1 less than Danny Dimes.



Exactly.

So what should we do about it Brad? Start Brosmer? Or should we keep working on the development of our QB?

I'm sorry, I am not willing to abandon this QB after just four games. Most QBs go through these growing pains.

So where are those QB ratings for every Great QB after four games I asked you for?

Or is all you care about getting people to say, golly gee you're right, or are you going to put out another bullshit blanket statement that if nobody comments that they are agreeing with you?

14-3

We had the answer and got emotional after a playoff loss.


Answer for what?
Did he win a playoff game or essential home game yet for Seattle? LA Rams are on the schedule next week but that isn't a year end game yet.

Sam still has 0 playoff wins. (last I checked).

I would much rather have playoff appearances and zero wins than no playoff appearance whatsoever. That's the current road you are heading down.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 11:59:33 AM  1 votes
Phil Riewer


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

Name me a worse starting quarterback option in the NFC right now than JJ McCarthy.

Tyler Shouch
maybe Marcus Mariota


Where was this post last week?
So every week the Vikes lose you aren't as busy?

Sam Darnold's career playoff victories.....0.
1 less than Kirk Cousins. Also 1 less than Danny Dimes.



Exactly.

So what should we do about it Brad? Start Brosmer? Or should we keep working on the development of our QB?

I'm sorry, I am not willing to abandon this QB after just four games. Most QBs go through these growing pains.

So where are those QB ratings for every Great QB after four games I asked you for?

Or is all you care about getting people to say, golly gee you're right, or are you going to put out another bullshit blanket statement that if nobody comments that they are agreeing with you?

14-3

We had the answer and got emotional after a playoff loss.


Answer for what?
Did he win a playoff game or essential home game yet for Seattle? LA Rams are on the schedule next week but that isn't a year end game yet.

Sam still has 0 playoff wins. (last I checked).

I would much rather have playoff appearances and zero wins than no playoff appearance whatsoever. That's the current road you are heading down.


Except with Sam instead of Kirk?
You asked to get rid of Kirk and it is the same reason they didn't keep Sam.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 12:05:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

Name me a worse starting quarterback option in the NFC right now than JJ McCarthy.

Tyler Shouch
maybe Marcus Mariota


Where was this post last week?
So every week the Vikes lose you aren't as busy?

Sam Darnold's career playoff victories.....0.
1 less than Kirk Cousins. Also 1 less than Danny Dimes.



Exactly.

So what should we do about it Brad? Start Brosmer? Or should we keep working on the development of our QB?

I'm sorry, I am not willing to abandon this QB after just four games. Most QBs go through these growing pains.

So where are those QB ratings for every Great QB after four games I asked you for?

Or is all you care about getting people to say, golly gee you're right, or are you going to put out another bullshit blanket statement that if nobody comments that they are agreeing with you?

14-3

We had the answer and got emotional after a playoff loss.


Answer for what?
Did he win a playoff game or essential home game yet for Seattle? LA Rams are on the schedule next week but that isn't a year end game yet.

Sam still has 0 playoff wins. (last I checked).

I would much rather have playoff appearances and zero wins than no playoff appearance whatsoever. That's the current road you are heading down.


Except with Sam instead of Kirk?
You asked to get rid of Kirk and it is the same reason they didn't keep Sam.

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Michigan State and USC. That's all you have to know.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 12:07:17 PM   
Phil Riewer


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

Name me a worse starting quarterback option in the NFC right now than JJ McCarthy.

Tyler Shouch
maybe Marcus Mariota


Where was this post last week?
So every week the Vikes lose you aren't as busy?

Sam Darnold's career playoff victories.....0.
1 less than Kirk Cousins. Also 1 less than Danny Dimes.



Exactly.

So what should we do about it Brad? Start Brosmer? Or should we keep working on the development of our QB?

I'm sorry, I am not willing to abandon this QB after just four games. Most QBs go through these growing pains.

So where are those QB ratings for every Great QB after four games I asked you for?

Or is all you care about getting people to say, golly gee you're right, or are you going to put out another bullshit blanket statement that if nobody comments that they are agreeing with you?

14-3

We had the answer and got emotional after a playoff loss.


Answer for what?
Did he win a playoff game or essential home game yet for Seattle? LA Rams are on the schedule next week but that isn't a year end game yet.

Sam still has 0 playoff wins. (last I checked).

I would much rather have playoff appearances and zero wins than no playoff appearance whatsoever. That's the current road you are heading down.


Except with Sam instead of Kirk?
You asked to get rid of Kirk and it is the same reason they didn't keep Sam.

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Michigan State and USC. That's all you have to know.

If you add JJ..

Michigan, Michigan State vs. USC.

If Sam wins playoff games then something can be said.

4-5 doesn't mean we are out of the playoffs yet but we have to be 9-8 or 10=7 and that is a tall tale.

< Message edited by Phil Riewer -- 11/10/2025 12:09:03 PM >


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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 12:29:01 PM   
Trekgeekscott


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

Name me a worse starting quarterback option in the NFC right now than JJ McCarthy.

Tyler Shouch
maybe Marcus Mariota


Where was this post last week?
So every week the Vikes lose you aren't as busy?

Sam Darnold's career playoff victories.....0.
1 less than Kirk Cousins. Also 1 less than Danny Dimes.



Exactly.

So what should we do about it Brad? Start Brosmer? Or should we keep working on the development of our QB?

I'm sorry, I am not willing to abandon this QB after just four games. Most QBs go through these growing pains.

So where are those QB ratings for every Great QB after four games I asked you for?

Or is all you care about getting people to say, golly gee you're right, or are you going to put out another bullshit blanket statement that if nobody comments that they are agreeing with you?

14-3

We had the answer and got emotional after a playoff loss.


No we didn't.

It was always the plan to turn the job over to JJM. Always. they were not going to pay Darnold what Seattle offered. He was as good as gone. Daniel Jones they offered more money and he opted to go elsewhere.

And where are those QB ratings for say Josh Allen after just four games of his NFL career, Patrick Mahomes? Tom Brady? Peyton Manning? etc etc etc etc.

and last years record means NOTHING in 2026. Every team makes changes year to year.

So what do we do THIS year since you have all the answers? Our Options are JJM, Brosmer and Wolford.

Could woulda shoulda doesn't change anything.

Ride the wave....that's what we have to do with JJM. Eventually he will learn to pick up the 1st on 3rd and one when he has the opportunity instead of gambling on a deep shot. Eventually he will learn he doesn't have to throw everything 100mph. EVERY QB takes time to develop. You didn't even give up on JJM cause you never game him a chance.

I may come around eventually and say, "you're right" but I will not right now because there isn't enough evidence that he's going to bust. Like any young QB he's going to go through some growing pains.

I personally think he's trying a little too hard especially at home.

He's a bit too amped up. Needs to settle down and relax a bit

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 12:36:56 PM   
Rob Viking

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brad H

Name me a worse starting quarterback option in the NFC right now than JJ McCarthy.

Tyler Shouch
maybe Marcus Mariota


I would add Michael Penix and Kyler Murray/Brissett to that list. And factoring in contracts perhaps Dak, Jordan Love and Purdy. Jayden Daniels continues to be injured so that's a concern. Stafford close to retirement.

Jackson Dart is an unknown and the Giants have 0 expectations.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 1:29:54 PM   
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Wow, I stopped dragging out the shit with Marty for the betterment of the board... for this?

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 1:48:22 PM   
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I am glad I stopped dragging out the shit with Bill for the betterment of the board.

I am enjoying these conversations, seeing Brad defend his position, and seeing several people supporting McCarthy through the worst.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/10/2025 1:53:17 PM   
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Still posting about me, I came here to discuss football, whether or not KOC is really the best fit for McCarthy.

Do see girl as an insult ? It could be thought of as a compliment, there are many young ladies today that are stronger persons than men of the same age.

I see Martyr is still at it
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