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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/12/2025 11:10:12 AM   
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Newbie MistaDon'tPlay, some good points there. Be careful not to go against the group "logic" that is Dicks, Bills, Toms and Harrys, they will call you names, twist your words, and pat themselves on the back for chasing you away.

You're talking to a robot.


Looks like the post is gone. Was that a bot?

Company rules prohibit greeters from rolling out the Welcome Wagon to bots, but maybe that transgression can be overlooked.
Edit: Omitted this post out of redundancy

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/12/2025 11:12:08 AM   
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Newbie MistaDon'tPlay, some good points there. Be careful not to go against the group "logic" that is Dicks, Bills, Toms and Harrys, they will call you names, twist your words, and pat themselves on the back for chasing you away.

You're talking to a robot.

My bad and my apologies to MistaDon'tPlay. He came on board at the same time as a bunch of robots that I've been cleaning up. Welcome aboard and again my apologies.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/12/2025 11:14:54 AM   
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Newbie MistaDon'tPlay, some good points there. Be careful not to go against the group "logic" that is Dicks, Bills, Toms and Harrys, they will call you names, twist your words, and pat themselves on the back for chasing you away.

You're talking to a robot.

My bad and my apologies to MistaDon'tPlay. He came on board at the same time as a bunch of robots that I've been cleaning up. Welcome aboard and again my apologies.
Thank you TJ! And apologies if I came off rude, I wasn't really sure how else to go about this. Bot crawlers like to target these oldworld forums, I've seen it on other forums using SimpleMachines and also Xenforo (old forum softwares). Not sure why. Either way I appreciate the welcome and I'm happy to discuss football with you fellas. Are you able to unflag my IP by chance?

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/12/2025 11:31:47 AM   
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Your ip should be clear. You didn't oe off rude.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/12/2025 11:50:14 AM   
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Newbie MistaDon'tPlay, some good points there. Be careful not to go against the group "logic" that is Dicks, Bills, Toms and Harrys, they will call you names, twist your words, and pat themselves on the back for chasing you away.

You're talking to a robot.

I'm not a robot. Is there a reason you keep flagging and banning my IP and accounts for no reason? I've been going back and forth with Toby via email for a week because of you.

Welcome Aboard!!!!!

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/12/2025 12:31:04 PM   
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Newbie MistaDon'tPlay, some good points there. Be careful not to go against the group "logic" that is Dicks, Bills, Toms and Harrys, they will call you names, twist your words, and pat themselves on the back for chasing you away.

You're talking to a robot.

I'm not a robot. Is there a reason you keep flagging and banning my IP and accounts for no reason? I've been going back and forth with Toby via email for a week because of you.


Just a misunderstanding. Should be good to go

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/12/2025 1:53:06 PM   
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The mods, admin, Toby, etc do a great job. And I never knew about that behind the scenes bot crap you deal with. Kudos!
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/12/2025 3:34:06 PM   
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If KGBum joined in they could be an I Am Right triumvirate... or an Axis of Evil II depending on one's perspective.

Ah yes. The old illogical "logic" guy. Guess he got tired of his "logic" being refuted.


Is that necessary?
How about we talk about football. No need to attack others when you can't come up with any content.....

How convenient!
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/12/2025 5:33:06 PM   
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14

That's our current draft position. A couple of teams have the same record and the snapshot might not even consider opponent strength of schedule. Continued undisciplined play should be able to get us into the 10-12 range no problem.

Last time we were at #12 Kwesi traded down and picked Cine, Booth, and Asamoah. The Lions took Jameson Williams who is averaging 17.6 ypc with 4 TDs.

And passed on Kyle Hamilton

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/13/2025 9:06:42 AM   
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Ryan Kelly finally returning perhaps! I hope so. I'm so sick of watching Brandel he's a legitimate football terrorist. He's the second worst rated center in the league. Also jumping to the future I hope we get rid of our oline coach this offseason.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/13/2025 9:55:14 AM   
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I can't believe Kelly didn't just retire. He's playing with fire at this point.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/13/2025 10:16:22 AM   
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I can't believe Kelly didn't just retire. He's playing with fire at this point.

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his career earnings are over $77mm....

how much better is another $10mm salary going to make his family's life?....

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/13/2025 10:19:27 AM   
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Ryan Kelly finally returning perhaps! I hope so. I'm so sick of watching Brandel he's a legitimate football terrorist. He's the second worst rated center in the league. Also jumping to the future I hope we get rid of our oline coach this offseason.

I ripped Brandel the guard relentlessly. I'm impressed with what Brandel has accomplished at center, despite his rating. He never played the position in his life until he starts there in the NFL after 1 week of practice. With a couple of exceptions, his exchanges have been clean, he has made the line calls and managed not to get trucked into the QBs lap. Given the circumstances, I think he has done alright.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/13/2025 10:57:18 AM   
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I can't believe Kelly didn't just retire. He's playing with fire at this point.


Agree. From a pure football standpoint, I'd like him out there. But geez, it's your brain dude.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/13/2025 10:28:30 PM   
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Agreed on the OL coach don'tplaymista.

Similar marriage:

Denny Green/Richard Solomon (2ndary coach), and KOC/Chris Kuper (OL coach)


-- Although an argument could be made that Kuper didn't hurt Darrisaw one bit, and there seems to be some positives with Brandel at Center, which is open to debate.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/14/2025 7:38:57 AM   
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And before last year what was Darnold's record?

He was given a chance.

JJM deserves a chance too.

Lose this game and the Vikings are buried in last place. A far cry from a year ago when Darnold had them four quarters from the 1-seed..........with a worse offensive line.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/14/2025 8:28:38 AM   
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And before last year what was Darnold's record?

He was given a chance.

JJM deserves a chance too.

Lose this game and the Vikings are buried in last place. A far cry from a year ago when Darnold had them four quarters from the 1-seed..........with a worse offensive line.

And in those 4 quarters he wet his pants. Then he followed that up with 4 playoff quarters of panic stricken bed shitting. Last year he was no better and probably worse than Cousins going 13-4 and a division title with the same crappy line and a bottom 3 defense.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/14/2025 8:40:25 AM   
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14-3


And before last year what was Darnold's record?

He was given a chance.

JJM deserves a chance too.

Lose this game and the Vikings are buried in last place. A far cry from a year ago when Darnold had them four quarters from the 1-seed..........with a worse offensive line.

And in those 4 quarters he wet his pants. Then he followed that up with 4 playoff quarters of panic stricken bed shitting. Last year he was no better and probably worse than Cousins going 13-4 and a division title with the same crappy line and a bottom 3 defense.

Cousins was not a viable long-term option. Not sure why you keep bringing that up. You keep claiming for arguments sake that Kirk Cousins/Sam Darnold is apples to apples, as if you are proving some sort of point. Kirk Cousins is 37 and making $45-million (and can't find his way onto a field). Sam Darnold is 28 and making $34-million, coming off the best year of his career. They are at very different points in their careers. One is in major decline while the other is heading into his prime.

I liked Gary Cuozzo at one point. Maybe you'd like to bring his name into the argument.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/14/2025 10:05:42 AM  1 votes
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14-3


And before last year what was Darnold's record?

He was given a chance.

JJM deserves a chance too.

Lose this game and the Vikings are buried in last place. A far cry from a year ago when Darnold had them four quarters from the 1-seed..........with a worse offensive line.

And in those 4 quarters he wet his pants. Then he followed that up with 4 playoff quarters of panic stricken bed shitting. Last year he was no better and probably worse than Cousins going 13-4 and a division title with the same crappy line and a bottom 3 defense.

Cousins was not a viable long-term option. Not sure why you keep bringing that up. You keep claiming for arguments sake that Kirk Cousins/Sam Darnold is apples to apples, as if you are proving some sort of point. Kirk Cousins is 37 and making $45-million (and can't find his way onto a field). Sam Darnold is 28 and making $34-million, coming off the best year of his career. They are at very different points in their careers. One is in major decline while the other is heading into his prime.

I liked Gary Cuozzo at one point. Maybe you'd like to bring his name into the argument.

As if Darnold / JJM are apples to apples.

As if!

We all know your 14-3 motto is meaningless, as do you of course, based on your years of relentlessly dogging Kirkie for his lack of big moment aptitude.

Then your boy plays atrociously in his two 'big moment' final 8 quarters of football for us.

How excruciating in that moment for us actual fans, yet how delicious now that it crushes your feeble attempts to be on the right side of an argument. Again.

I'm sure if Darnold finished less horrendously, it might have even made the decision to keep him harder, in spite of the long term financial, contractual, and roster plan that was hatched long before Darnold got here.

Oh well, he blossomed for awhile then stank up to high heaven! Full speed ahead with Plan A.

Comparing Darnold's performance in his 7th season / fourth team with McCarthy's performance over his first four starts ...

is apples to apples?

Have some integrity for once.

It's very possible that staying with JJ instead of Darnold could turn out to be one of the most hideous decisions in HC/GM history. And that's not just how their head to head comparisons come out, but the state of the team as a whole, in going with the hand-picked/drafted option.

It's like playing two out of three at something, say shooting hoops ... you make the first shot and you start jumping up and down, shouting over and over and over again, "I win ... I win .. I win ... and I need to hear you say it!."

Uh, no. Forget about the shameless narcissism, it's not over.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/14/2025 10:07:53 AM   
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I think it's a fair comparison in that Brad is hanging onto DarnOLD, while some held onto old Cousins.

Darnold might get a great test at the Rams this weekend.

McCarthy is winning every other game, good/bad/good/bad, there is a chance he wins the next one. But the Bears will have revenge from the 1st game on their mind, Bears fans are starting to travel more, Ben Johnson has had Flore's number, Van Ginkel and Greenard are banged up, and there are some questions concerning JJ the WR's effort last week.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/14/2025 12:16:10 PM  1 votes
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Cousins was not a viable long-term option. Not sure why you keep bringing that up. You keep claiming for arguments sake that Kirk Cousins/Sam Darnold is apples to apples, as if you are proving some sort of point. Kirk Cousins is 37 and making $45-million (and can't find his way onto a field). Sam Darnold is 28 and making $34-million, coming off the best year of his career. They are at very different points in their careers. One is in major decline while the other is heading into his prime.

I liked Gary Cuozzo at one point. Maybe you'd like to bring his name into the argument.

I keep bringing it up because it shows what a fraud you are on this topic. Both put up good single season records with big numbers behind the same shitty line and then choked in the playoffs. You wanted one gone at all costs and were ready to pay the other one $50M a year to stay. You never once argued Cousins long term viability in 2022. He was 34 and had tread left on the tires. He was off to a better start in 2023 when he tore his Achilles.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/14/2025 12:53:16 PM   
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I was listening to a Purple Daily podcast this morning and they brought up a stat that just blew my mind. They cited a company that charted every team in the league and their success rate based on the personnel formations. There was a possible 300 combos to chart.


We run 70% 11 personnel and are 298 for success out of that 300.

WTF is KOC doing? We "upgraded" the OLine and brought in Mason and he's still this pass happy when it's clearly not working? He's famous for his "teams fail young qb's more than young qb's fail teams" and yet....he's doing exactly that.
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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/14/2025 1:13:20 PM   
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So KOC is either projecting with that statement, or he wrote the reason for his getting fired in the near future.

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/14/2025 1:51:15 PM   
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Cousins was not a viable long-term option. Not sure why you keep bringing that up. You keep claiming for arguments sake that Kirk Cousins/Sam Darnold is apples to apples, as if you are proving some sort of point. Kirk Cousins is 37 and making $45-million (and can't find his way onto a field). Sam Darnold is 28 and making $34-million, coming off the best year of his career. They are at very different points in their careers. One is in major decline while the other is heading into his prime.

I liked Gary Cuozzo at one point. Maybe you'd like to bring his name into the argument.

I keep bringing it up because it shows what a fraud you are on this topic. Both put up good single season records with big numbers behind the same shitty line and then choked in the playoffs. You wanted one gone at all costs and were ready to pay the other one $50M a year to stay. You never once argued Cousins long term viability in 2022. He was 34 and had tread left on the tires. He was off to a better start in 2023 when he tore his Achilles.

I'm not a fraud in the least. Since this conversation's inception you have been making a bad argument. Now I'm a fraud because of it?

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RE: General Vikes Talkk - 11/14/2025 2:38:47 PM   
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I've been making a spot on argument. Otherwise you wouldn't be dragging Gary Cuozzo in to deflect from it. You use the exact same results to disparage one QB and pine for the other. You directly contradict your arguments, which makes them fraudulent.

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