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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 9:03:34 AM

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School starts in 3 weeks

My kids both go back on the 12th. I think that is the earliest they have ever gone back. At least they got to visit the grandparents in Minnesota this year.

When would they finish then? Let's say no snow days - regular scheduled finish.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 9:33:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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School starts in 3 weeks

My kids both go back on the 12th. I think that is the earliest they have ever gone back. At least they got to visit the grandparents in Minnesota this year.

When would they finish then? Let's say no snow days - regular scheduled finish.

We would of finished the 28th of May without snow days - and we had 2 snow days built into the schedule.

I talked to some WI kids this summer and they got out like June 14th and they always start after Labor Day - I've heard it has to to with the vacation spots getting their way as to when they start - IOW, families vacation at the end of Aug instead of being in school

It's mediatory that kids go 180 days and teachers 187 in Iowa

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 9:43:28 AM

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I always went to school after Labor day and got out the 2nd - 3rd week of June.

I guess it would have been ok to give up a little over half of August to not have to go to school in June.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 9:51:49 AM

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I wonder if we'll ever get to the point where we go all year? I think the California model (someone correct me if I'm wrong) is to go all year, but they still have a couple of months of breaks - just divided up into smaller chunks spread throughout the year. That makes a lot of sense to me because they have shown how much time is wasted every fall reviewing the stuff kids have forgotten over the summer before they can begin the new material. We are no longer an agricultural society in which families need their kids to help out with farm chores all summer. That model is WAY outdated and I would definitely vote for a change.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 10:02:55 AM

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Happy birthday Karl Juhnke! May your training camp dreams come true on this day (and for the entire season please).

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 10:03:08 AM

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School starts in 3 weeks

My kids both go back on the 12th. I think that is the earliest they have ever gone back. At least they got to visit the grandparents in Minnesota this year.

When would they finish then? Let's say no snow days - regular scheduled finish.

The scheduled day last year was May 18, but school actually ended on the 21st because of the snow days. I'm not sure about this year. It seems earlier and earlier each year.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 10:07:58 AM

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I wonder if we'll ever get to the point where we go all year? I think the California model (someone correct me if I'm wrong) is to go all year, but they still have a couple of months of breaks - just divided up into smaller chunks spread throughout the year. That makes a lot of sense to me because they have shown how much time is wasted every fall reviewing the stuff kids have forgotten over the summer before they can begin the new material. We are no longer an agricultural society in which families need their kids to help out with farm chores all summer. That model is WAY outdated and I would definitely vote for a change.

The kids in my late fiance's family went to an all year charter school for years.
They did so much better at retaining what they learned. They would just have two week intercessions every couple/few months Instead of 3 months off in summer.

It's not just agriculture stopping the shift to all year schools. Retailers make a killing in July/August on Back to School sales....I work a second job in retail and this time of year is nearly as hellish as Christmas.

On the Starting earlier, my sister-in-law is a special ed teacher in western MN, and they start mid August every year in her district. She's usually off mid May.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 10:08:54 AM

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May 18th seems REALLY early!

Year round schooling. I would have hated it. But I'm not a kid, nor do I have kids so make em go year round with no breaks for all I care.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 10:11:07 AM

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I wonder if we'll ever get to the point where we go all year? I think the California model (someone correct me if I'm wrong) is to go all year, but they still have a couple of months of breaks - just divided up into smaller chunks spread throughout the year. That makes a lot of sense to me because they have shown how much time is wasted every fall reviewing the stuff kids have forgotten over the summer before they can begin the new material. We are no longer an agricultural society in which families need their kids to help out with farm chores all summer. That model is WAY outdated and I would definitely vote for a change.

Since I grew up in a farming community, it wasn't true for me. I know that's the exception.

In the midwest, at least, there are some physical plant issues, such as schools skimping on air conditioning because they're not in session during the hottest months of the year.

And of course, wouldn't it be great if parents kept working with kids over the summer so that schools didn't have to start with that review? But how many schools put out a list of review items for kids to work on during the summer? FWIW, there are a number of excellent & cheap summer workbooks available. My kids liked the BrainQuest series, but unfortunately I don't think that continues past grade 4 or so.

What surprises me is that college students are largely on the same agricultural schedule. Yes, there are summer classes, but those sessions are dramatically underutilized compared to fall/winter/spring. If an alternate schedule were so beneficial, one would think that college students would have led the change years ago. So I don't think it's just agriculture that's driving it. People are more willing to study when the weather sucks.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 1:33:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

I wonder if we'll ever get to the point where we go all year? I think the California model (someone correct me if I'm wrong) is to go all year, but they still have a couple of months of breaks - just divided up into smaller chunks spread throughout the year. That makes a lot of sense to me because they have shown how much time is wasted every fall reviewing the stuff kids have forgotten over the summer before they can begin the new material. We are no longer an agricultural society in which families need their kids to help out with farm chores all summer. That model is WAY outdated and I would definitely vote for a change.

Since I grew up in a farming community, it wasn't true for me. I know that's the exception.

In the midwest, at least, there are some physical plant issues, such as schools skimping on air conditioning because they're not in session during the hottest months of the year.

And of course, wouldn't it be great if parents kept working with kids over the summer so that schools didn't have to start with that review? But how many schools put out a list of review items for kids to work on during the summer? FWIW, there are a number of excellent & cheap summer workbooks available. My kids liked the BrainQuest series, but unfortunately I don't think that continues past grade 4 or so.

What surprises me is that college students are largely on the same agricultural schedule. Yes, there are summer classes, but those sessions are dramatically underutilized compared to fall/winter/spring. If an alternate schedule were so beneficial, one would think that college students would have led the change years ago. So I don't think it's just agriculture that's driving it. People are more willing to study when the weather sucks.

I had to use the summer break to earn money to help get through the next academic year.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 1:35:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

School starts in 3 weeks

My kids both go back on the 12th. I think that is the earliest they have ever gone back. At least they got to visit the grandparents in Minnesota this year.

When would they finish then? Let's say no snow days - regular scheduled finish.

We would of finished the 28th of May without snow days - and we had 2 snow days built into the schedule.

I talked to some WI kids this summer and they got out like June 14th and they always start after Labor Day - I've heard it has to to with the vacation spots getting their way as to when they start - IOW, families vacation at the end of Aug instead of being in school

It's mediatory that kids go 180 days and teachers 187 in Iowa

mediatory

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 1:37:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

School starts in 3 weeks

My kids both go back on the 12th. I think that is the earliest they have ever gone back. At least they got to visit the grandparents in Minnesota this year.

When would they finish then? Let's say no snow days - regular scheduled finish.

We would of finished the 28th of May without snow days - and we had 2 snow days built into the schedule.

I talked to some WI kids this summer and they got out like June 14th and they always start after Labor Day - I've heard it has to to with the vacation spots getting their way as to when they start - IOW, families vacation at the end of Aug instead of being in school

It's mediatory that kids go 180 days and teachers 187 in Iowa

mediatory

Yeah, in our state we don't allow kids to be sick -- that's why our scores are better than yours.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 1:39:43 PM

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School starts in 3 weeks

My kids both go back on the 12th. I think that is the earliest they have ever gone back. At least they got to visit the grandparents in Minnesota this year.

When would they finish then? Let's say no snow days - regular scheduled finish.

We would of finished the 28th of May without snow days - and we had 2 snow days built into the schedule.

I talked to some WI kids this summer and they got out like June 14th and they always start after Labor Day - I've heard it has to to with the vacation spots getting their way as to when they start - IOW, families vacation at the end of Aug instead of being in school

It's mediatory that kids go 180 days and teachers 187 in Iowa

mediatory

Yeah, in our state we don't allow kids to be sick -- that's why our scores are better than yours.

With your news anchors and sports reporter types keeping count?

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 1:46:25 PM

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School starts in 3 weeks

My kids both go back on the 12th. I think that is the earliest they have ever gone back. At least they got to visit the grandparents in Minnesota this year.

When would they finish then? Let's say no snow days - regular scheduled finish.

We would of finished the 28th of May without snow days - and we had 2 snow days built into the schedule.

I talked to some WI kids this summer and they got out like June 14th and they always start after Labor Day - I've heard it has to to with the vacation spots getting their way as to when they start - IOW, families vacation at the end of Aug instead of being in school

It's mediatory that kids go 180 days and teachers 187 in Iowa

mediatory

Yeah, in our state we don't allow kids to be sick -- that's why our scores are better than yours.

With your news anchors and sports reporter types keeping count?

I just now got it. You''re making fun of my "mandatory" spelling. Damn auto correct. I thought you were being literal, like, you have to go 180 or else ....

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 7:13:46 PM

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I wonder if we'll ever get to the point where we go all year? I think the California model (someone correct me if I'm wrong) is to go all year, but they still have a couple of months of breaks - just divided up into smaller chunks spread throughout the year. That makes a lot of sense to me because they have shown how much time is wasted every fall reviewing the stuff kids have forgotten over the summer before they can begin the new material. We are no longer an agricultural society in which families need their kids to help out with farm chores all summer. That model is WAY outdated and I would definitely vote for a change.

Here we don't. Start school at the end of Aug. or early Sept. and get out mid June. No snow days here in the desert.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/28/2014 10:28:16 PM

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May 18th seems REALLY early!

Year round schooling. I would have hated it. But I'm not a kid, nor do I have kids so make em go year round with no breaks for all I care.

I think I'd like year round schooling ... as long as it was only 180 days a year. Go 9 weeks take a break, add in Christmas, spring break, etc. Summer is great but it takes while to get back to summer again.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/29/2014 9:44:21 AM

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Happy BDay to The Dude.

Have talked with him and met him. Good guy.

The BDay thing is funny. Sometimes it's easy to drop and note and other times you let it pass you buy. Sometimes people get a ton of wishes, other, living posters, get few or none...

If you had a BDay this year - hope it was a good one.

As a present I have ordered a bunch of "I was wrong on the internet but Todd was there to point it out" T-shirts. From petite to XXXXL, women's or men's...I've got you all covered.

It's expensive ordering that many shirts.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/29/2014 11:28:20 AM

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Yes - Happy Birthday Ben! I would have missed it if you hadn't mentioned it. I'm not sure how the banner sometimes misses a full-time starter.

Hope the celebration is splendid and the cake divine.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/29/2014 11:29:01 AM

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And right after I posted it - the banner is up! Good job Tobster.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/29/2014 11:31:36 AM

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The banners are manual labor and although I setup 10 or so at a time I sometimes forget to keep them current.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 7/29/2014 11:31:59 AM

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We are good to the middle of September now.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 8/2/2014 8:15:38 PM

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Cool to hear Derrick Brooks talk about the Selmon Bros during his induction speech today.
Love hearing the great players tell about what motivated and drove them.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 8/4/2014 12:05:37 AM

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The banners are manual labor and although I setup 10 or so at a time I sometimes forget to keep them current.

I long for the days when banned posters banners graced the front page.

I'm sentimental.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 8/4/2014 7:01:12 AM

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Ah, those were the days.

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RE: Vikes Water Cooler Thread - 8/4/2014 8:53:42 AM

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It happened exactly once, right?

So it's "that was the day."

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