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RE: Gopher Hockey - 3/28/2010 7:37:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, Sioux fans .... here's the deal .... no more Holy Cross jokes, k?
You now have your own version of that debacle.
Yale hadn't won a playoff game in oh, about 60 years.
The only reason a WCHA team is still alive (Wisc), is because they played another one (St Cloud) last night.
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RE: Gopher Hockey - 4/9/2010 8:56:39 AM   
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Status: online 		It looks like the "Fighting Sioux" name is finally history. I personally agree with this move, but I know there are strong feelings on both sides. I don't know if it will ever happen, but I would love for the NFL to force Washington to get rid of the name "Redskins" because that one clearly has a racist genesis.

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 4/9/2010 9:05:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		My generation of kids grew wanting to be "Chiefs" or "Warriors" or "Braves".
They actually studied the culture.
They related those things to pride, honor, and duty. There was NO negative connotation to it, in the area I grew up.
It was the only thing (sports nicknames) that keep the spirit of the indian people alive. I have a tiny bit of blood in me. I bragged about it.
Take those away, and there is nothing left for young people to care about regarding the culture. That way of life and culture will completely disappear.
No more "Fighting Sioux". How about "Scrappy Slot Machines"? Does that make everyone feel better?

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 4/9/2010 9:43:25 AM   
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Too bad for the sport really
Lets face it, the sport needs a Minnesota there, a North Dakota.
Wisconsin is holding up the WCHA, which amazes me.
Seeing them a couple times this year, I felt bad for them, just seemed so blah, and lacking that "something".
Guess not. Playing for another national title. Good for them.
BC? BU? Blechh... beat 'em, Wiscy.

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 4/9/2010 10:10:44 AM   
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Status: online 		I agree about keeping the names but I'm not Native American.  It doesn't bother me in the least, or offend, but again, it's not my culture so take it with a grain of salt.  If it were the North Dakota Stupid Poles we may have to go to blows but that's because I don't want any affiliation with NoDak 
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RE: Gopher Hockey - 4/9/2010 10:14:04 AM   
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Two brutal national semis last night
Too bad for the sport really
Lets face it, the sport needs a Minnesota there, a North Dakota.
Wisconsin is holding up the WCHA, which amazes me.
Seeing them a couple times this year, I felt bad for them, just seemed so blah, and lacking that "something".
Guess not. Playing for another national title. Good for them.
BC? BU? Blechh... beat 'em, Wiscy.




Yup.  College Hockey has been blah all year for some reason.  I thought the same thing about half way through.  I still watched all year but I never had that excitement that I've had in the past.  Honestly, for me, it's been  since mid year last year (about the time Don had his illness thing going on). 

I'm not sure if it was that or what but I just wasn't as geeked.  I wonder if it's the lack of snipers at the U?  Our normal frosh class has guys that I'm dying to see at this level.  The past 2 years have been none of that.  Leddy?  Ness?    Maybe Schroeder but that didn't last long. 


Like I said early in the year.  When your best player is Lucia you're in trouble.  No offense (pun intended) to Tony.  Presumably a great kid and super hard worker but....
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RE: Gopher Hockey - 4/9/2010 11:44:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not trying to offend anyone, but the Gophs are the Yankees and the Sioux are the Red Sox
The sport needs at least one of them at the top or near it.
(for national recognition)
BC and Wisconsin will be nuts about it, don't get me wrong, just sayin ...
Weird how we think alike, Jeff, that time last year with The Don is exactly when my interest waned as well.
Thank God I have my own hockey to tend to, or I'd be having serious withdrawals.
No serious hockey in mid-April? In Minnesota? Come on, man!

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 4/11/2010 11:55:55 AM   
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Embarassing for the WCHA, or should be.
We need to set this right again.
For awhile, there was talk that the WCHA was too dominant in college hockey.
Certainly no more. Impressive what the East has done with that kind of talk. They used it to motivate and improve their programs and right now, they are clearly better than we are here right now.

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 5/18/2010 9:49:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Eden Prairie forward Kyle Rau and his family used to hold Gophers men's hockey season tickets, allowing Kyle to visit Mariucci Arena "at least once a weekend."

Now Rau is on track to make more frequent appearances at that rink. Rau, a 5-9, 165-pound center, said he committed to the Gophers for the 2011-12 season on Sunday. He will play his senior year with the Eagles and will enter college as a true freshman.

"It's always been a dream to play for the Gophers," said Rau, whose older brother, Chad, played at Colorado College.

Rau tallied 77 points last season and emerged as one of the state's most electrifying players. He helped the Eagles win a Class 2A state title as a sophomore and led them back to the section finals last season.

Rau, a Star Tribune all-metro first team selection, chose the Gophers over Denver and North Dakota.

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 5/19/2010 10:29:59 AM   
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Status: online 		What's the deal with this kid?  I'm sure some of you have seen him play.
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RE: Gopher Hockey - 5/19/2010 4:14:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Fits the light-in-the-shorts profile of many of our latest recruits.
Talented as hell, but just too tiny to play WCHA-style hockey.
Sound familiar? A team of Ness/Schroeder/Leddy/Rau-types will be nothing more than it is now ... barely .500 and going nowhere.
Good kid, good family, good player. Not what we need to turn this program around, tho.

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 5/19/2010 4:50:02 PM   
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RE: Gopher Hockey - 5/19/2010 9:20:29 PM   
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Status: online 		Yep. The kid's only 17 and has another year of HS before moving on to the Gophers. Nick Bjukstad is certainly not too small for the WCHA. He's a big boy.

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 5/19/2010 11:30:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't mean anything as a knock at all ....
These are all extremely talented kids that I mentioned, wonderfully skilled and all.
And every team needs a couple of them on it.
Just get worried when we get MOST of them that way.
Bjugstad will be plenty big, and the Budish kid will really start to make hay next year.
Think we all saw it last year, when a kid like Tony Lucia ended up being our top grinder.
Good for Tony, not so good for us.

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 6/3/2010 8:31:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		David Fischer not even invited to Canadiens Development Camp


Looking over the roster, one has to ask: Where is David Fischer? You might recall that the Canadiens selected him out of Apple Valley High School in Minnesota in the first round in 2006. He was the 20th pick in the first round, two picks ahead of Claude Giroux and a full round ahead of Milan Lucic.

Fischer has spent the past four seasons at the University of Minnesota, where he failed to live up to his advance billing as the best high school player in Minnesota. If anything, Fischer's game has regressed.

The official word from the Canadiens at the end of the U.S. college season was that the team still had some interest in him and had until Aug. 15 to sign him, but if there were any genuine interest, he would have had an opportunity to jump-start his pro career by finishing the season in Hamilton.

Meanwhile, general manager Pierre Gauthier has cleaned out the team's scouting department by dropping six scouts whose contracts had expired.

The best-known member of the group is Gordie Roberts, the former NHL player who was one of two pro scouts.
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RE: Gopher Hockey - 7/27/2010 9:13:42 PM   
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Status: online 		Leddy signs with the Hawks. Gone after 1 year. Can't say I saw that one coming. He didn't play that well. Actually, that's a really stupid move on his part IMO.
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RE: Gopher Hockey - 7/27/2010 9:14:49 PM   
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Status: online 		Agreed. He is nowhere near NHL ready. 

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 7/28/2010 9:47:45 AM   
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Leddy signs with the Hawks. Gone after 1 year. Can't say I saw that one coming. He didn't play that well. Actually, that's a really stupid move on his part IMO.


I read he shined at the Blackhawks camp

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 7/29/2010 2:16:26 PM   
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Leddy signs with the Hawks. Gone after 1 year. Can't say I saw that one coming. He didn't play that well. Actually, that's a really stupid move on his part IMO.


I read he shined at the Blackhawks camp


There is a growing trend now for NHL organizations to not want their young draft picks in college hockey. Feel their deveolpment is hindered by the quality of competition and the 2-games a week schedule. Garth Snow plucking Okposo out from under the Gopher team mid-season was the tip of the iceberg.

Now the trend is, any draft pick of high potential, most NHL clubs want out of the college system after 1 season, two tops.
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RE: Gopher Hockey - 8/10/2010 1:44:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some good stuff from the Strib

A look at the Gophers' 2010-11 roster by heights/weights:
Returning players who gained most weight

Up 10 pounds
F Patrick White, 6-1, 200 ... Hopefully it's all muscle

Up 9 pounds
F Jake Hansen, 6-2, 191 ... Has frame to add even more
F Jay Barriball, 5-9, 179 ... Sat out most of last season after knee surgery. Lots of rehab.

Up 8 pounds
F Mike Hoeffel, 6-2, 205 ... Gotta be more physical, could be force around net

Up 7 pounds
D Kevin Wehrs, 5-9, 182 ... Needs to step up his senior year
D Aaron Ness, 5-10, 177 ... Showed a few flashes of his offensive skills at end of last season
F Nico Sacchetti, 6-0, 193 ... Could have breakout year as junior

Up 6 pounds
F Joe Miller, 5-11, 201 ... Has played little first two seasons

Up 4 pounds
D Cade Fairchild, 5-11, 190 ... With Nick Leddy gone, Fairchild has to have big year as senior
G Jake Kremer, 6-1, 194 ... Nobody sees Jake. He is the practice goalie who toils in obscurity

Up 2 pounds
F Nick Larson, 6-1, 188 ... Junior has talent, maybe this will be his year

Up 1 pound ... hardly worth listing, a big meal can add a pound
F Taylor Marson, 6-0, 186 ... Can he stay injury-free this season?
F Zach Budish, 6-3, 221 ... Still looks like a linebacker
G Kent Patterson, 6-1, 193 ... Will he push Alex Kangas for starting job in nets?

Down 5 pounds
F Jacob Cepis, 5-8, 170 ... Size might still be exaggerated, feisty for little guy

Down 3 pounds
D Seth Helgeson, 6-5, 217 ... Needs to throw weight around more as sophomore

WEIGHTY MATTERS
Gophers have six players who weigh 200 pounds or more and nine players who are 6-2 or taller.

AGE WHEN SEASON OPENS (months rounded off)
Jay Barriball, 23 years, 4 months ... got extra season for medical hardship
Alex Kangas, 23 yrs., 4 mo. ... still remember him as freshman when he stood on head in playoffs
Joe Miller, 23 yrs., 1 mo. ... plays with energy
Jacob Cepis, 22 yrs, 10 mo. ... Papa Chirp is not oldest player on team
Kevin Wehrs, 22 yrs., 6 mo. ... one season left to impress
Jake Kremer, 22 yrs., 5 mo. ... stuck in practice role as third goalie
Taylor Matson, 22 yrs., 1 mo. ... will ankle surgery last season cost him speed?
Patrick White, 21 yrs., 9 mo. ... first round draft pick has yet to play like one
Nick Larson, 21 yrs., 9 mo. ... sat out first year in college with back issues
Cade Fairchild, 21 yrs., 9 mo. ... had all-america hype before junior year, not this season
Mike Hoeffel, 21 yrs., 6 mo. ... soft-spoken, needs to carry big stick
Jake Parenteau, 21 yrs., 4 mo. ... recruited frosh walk-on
Tom Serratore, 21 yrs., 3 mo. ... recruited frosh walk-on, son of Air Force coach
Nico Sacchetti, 21 yrs., 2 mo. ... goal-scorer's time to produce
Jake Hansen, 21 yrs., 2 mo. ... showed flashes as sophomore
Jared Larson, 21 yrs., 1 mo. ... recruited fosh walk-on
Kent Patterson, 21 yrs., 1 mo. ... second fiddle to Kangas in nets for two seasons

Key stat: 17 of the Gophers players, including three incoming freshmen -- Parenteau, Serratore and Larson -- will be 21 when season starts. This is an old team.
Aaron Ness, 20 yrs., 5 mo. ... promise turns to results this season?
Nate Condon, 20 yrs., 4 mo. ... frosh from Wisconsin via Fargo of USHL
Seth Helgeson, 20 yrs. ... Seth's 20th B-Day will be on the day the Gophers open, Oct. 8.
Erik Haula, 19 yrs., 6 mo. ... Flying Finn, probably will get first shot at centering top line
Zach Budish, 19 yrs., 5 mo. ... Size to scare you
Nate Schmidt, 19 yrs., 3 mo. ... D-man with rocket for shot, could help on power play
Mark Alt, 18 yrs., 11 mo. ... turns 19 on Oct. 18 ... big D-man
Justin Holl, 18 yrs., 9 mo. ... late addition to team after Nick Leddy turned pro, scholar in classroom
Max Gardiner, 18 yrs., 5 mo. ... teammate of Holl's at Minnetonka
Nick Bjugstad, 18 yrs., 3 mo. ... impressed at USA Hockey's nat'l jr. evaluation camp

Average age of Gophers: 20 years, 11 months, 2 weeks

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 9/18/2010 8:27:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Amazing ... Penn State announces it will be going D1 with their hockey program.
Thanks to a private donation of $88 million for a new arena and facility.

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 9/18/2010 8:57:16 AM   
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The Gophers are, and always should be WCHA. Not Big 10. It has no mistique. Those rivalries with the Colorado teams, Dakota and SCSU down the pisser. Sure, we keep Sconnie and it won't take long at all to hate Michigan and State (already do actually) but OSU, Penn state....give me a break. And if any casual reader wants to know where my angst for Michigan comes from...I present you this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzsOkwHYBno
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RE: Gopher Hockey - 9/18/2010 9:10:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Excited by what I read about the new Gophers hockey team.
No more holding back and playing “third guy high”
Dammit, you have so much talent, (or supposedly) then, use it around the net.
These aren’t (or shouldn’t be) guys with holes in their games.
Coach them like they are thoroughbreds, because they are.
Looks like Cepis is developing into a gritty leader we need to follow.
They are saying Serratore’s kid (21 year old freshman) is a wild man.
We need more of those. We can still use the 18 year old prodigys, as long as they are surrounded by those types.
We need a resurgence of Gopher Hockey.
If one program at the U should contend nationally every year, it should be this one.

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 10/8/2010 6:59:00 PM   
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GO GOPHERS!!!!!

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RE: Gopher Hockey - 10/15/2010 8:00:34 PM   
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