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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

You know what?  If that's the interest Maturi is drumming up (Linnehan and Bevell) I'm out.  I'm not spending hard earned money on that crap.  That's just pathetic.

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

How could Bevell be head coaching material?

but then again, brewster was too

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

How could Bevell be head coaching material?

but then again, brewster was too

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

PA this morning threw out the name Scott Linehan as next Gopher coach. This could be just like Pete Carroll leaving the NFL and back to college. It is food for thought

Miles VT lost to a DII team right after they lost to Boise St

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ORIGINAL: Miles K

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

PA this morning threw out the name Scott Linehan as next Gopher coach. This could be just like Pete Carroll leaving the NFL and back to college. It is food for thought

Miles VT lost to a DII team right after they lost to Boise St

They lost to James Madison....I think James Madison is Division I FCS and has a very good program.  The defeat to Boise State by VT was devastating....they should have beaten James Madison.  And Oregon State, a preseason top 20 team has now lost 3 games..............in other words, Boise State went out and strengthened their non conference schedule....VT has been one of the top programs in the country the past 10 years, Oregon State has been a very good program.....and the year Boise State has things in place, the two schools they had on their non conference schedule have laid eggs so should Boise State be penalized?

If you represent one of the BCS conferences, you would say damn right. 

I say if Boise State is soooooo overhyped and not in the same category of the teams from the "great conferences", then let's have a playoff system so the Ohio States can show everyone how pathetic the Big Ten really is.  It is not the conference of strength in football that it was when Ohio State and Michigan dominated with Woody and Bo.   

And Oklahoma, undefeated and moving up in the polls, squeaked by Utah State in its opener 31-24 in Norman.  UTAH STATE for crying out loud.  A slight step above NDSU, SDSU and USD.

Everyone needs to take a step back and look at college football.......the playing field has been leveled tremendously since the BCS schools are limited to 90 scholarships and the FCS schools get 60 scholarships.

Does anyone really think that the University of Indiana's football program is light years ahead of the Bison of NDSU?

Maybe the Gophers should hire Lee Corso.

In 1974, UND went into Memorial Stadium and faced the Gophers with an option QB and a very good wide receiver.  The Sioux led at halftime, 21 to 14.  In the second half, Gophers moved Rick Upchurch from wide receiver to the backfield......they simply pitched Upchurch the ball and no one on the Sioux team had the speed to catch someone with world class speed that Upchurch possessed.  The Gophers won the game 42 to 30....but the Sioux had amassed as much yardage as the Gophers (yes, I realize it was the Cal Stoll era).  The Sioux manhandled the Gophers defensive line in the first half.

That was a time when DI programs were not limited in scholarships and DII programs were way behind DI.

There is a much more level playing field today.

Boise State would run the table in the Big 10.

As far down as the Gophers are, it really should not take too much to make them competitive in the Big 10.  It should not require a Miracle Worker.

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Great post Miles.
Love anything Upchurch/Foggie/etc related.
There were actually some fun years for Gopher football.
No one under 20 knows it, but there were.
And you are spot-on about the levels even-ing out.
Nothings a given anymore.

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ORIGINAL: Ryan Buckingham

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ORIGINAL: Miles K

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

PA this morning threw out the name Scott Linehan as next Gopher coach. This could be just like Pete Carroll leaving the NFL and back to college. It is food for thought

Miles VT lost to a DII team right after they lost to Boise St

They lost to James Madison....I think James Madison is Division I FCS and has a very good program.  The defeat to Boise State by VT was devastating....they should have beaten James Madison.  And Oregon State, a preseason top 20 team has now lost 3 games..............in other words, Boise State went out and strengthened their non conference schedule....VT has been one of the top programs in the country the past 10 years, Oregon State has been a very good program.....and the year Boise State has things in place, the two schools they had on their non conference schedule have laid eggs so should Boise State be penalized?

If you represent one of the BCS conferences, you would say damn right. 

I say if Boise State is soooooo overhyped and not in the same category of the teams from the "great conferences", then let's have a playoff system so the Ohio States can show everyone how pathetic the Big Ten really is.  It is not the conference of strength in football that it was when Ohio State and Michigan dominated with Woody and Bo.   

And Oklahoma, undefeated and moving up in the polls, squeaked by Utah State in its opener 31-24 in Norman.  UTAH STATE for crying out loud.  A slight step above NDSU, SDSU and USD.

Everyone needs to take a step back and look at college football.......the playing field has been leveled tremendously since the BCS schools are limited to 90 scholarships and the FCS schools get 60 scholarships.

Does anyone really think that the University of Indiana's football program is light years ahead of the Bison of NDSU?

Maybe the Gophers should hire Lee Corso.

In 1974, UND went into Memorial Stadium and faced the Gophers with an option QB and a very good wide receiver.  The Sioux led at halftime, 21 to 14.  In the second half, Gophers moved Rick Upchurch from wide receiver to the backfield......they simply pitched Upchurch the ball and no one on the Sioux team had the speed to catch someone with world class speed that Upchurch possessed.  The Gophers won the game 42 to 30....but the Sioux had amassed as much yardage as the Gophers (yes, I realize it was the Cal Stoll era).  The Sioux manhandled the Gophers defensive line in the first half.

That was a time when DI programs were not limited in scholarships and DII programs were way behind DI.

There is a much more level playing field today.

Boise State would run the table in the Big 10.

As far down as the Gophers are, it really should not take too much to make them competitive in the Big 10.  It should not require a Miracle Worker.

Good, because we won't be hiring one.  I don't care who they hire, the guy will not be a Miracle Worker.  He will however be in charge of what SHOULD be a good program year in and year out.  We now have the state of the art stadium, we are the only D-I school in the state, and are in a BCS conference.  We have some decent young talent.  We'll have Gray and most of the rest of the offensive skill positions back.  The defense is very young as well. 

The talent here, if properly coached, should be enough to be at least .500 in the Big Ten, in 2011. 

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

There was some talk Tuesday that some local dreamers will try to bring Lou Holtz, 73, back as Gophers football coach, with a master plan that Holtz's son Skip, the coach at South Florida, would succeed his dad at Minnesota.

Read more: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/239630-lou-holtz-on-gophers-radar?eref=sihp#ixzz12uxw91nA

So did Shooter hear Sid say this or some nonsens?

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

Miles if Boise wanted to be taken seriously, they why when we saw all the movement this summer of teams jumping conferences did they jump to another weak conference, the MWC? They could have tried to get into the Pac 10 like Colo and Utah did

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ORIGINAL: Miles K

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

Miles if Boise wanted to be taken seriously, they why when we saw all the movement this summer of teams jumping conferences did they jump to another weak conference, the MWC? They could have tried to get into the Pac 10 like Colo and Utah did

Because they have other sports as well.  They are a long way from those institutions in terms of overall institutional strength, etc.  There is no way that they would have gotten into the Pac 10, even with their strength in Football.

Presidents have to approve additions to conferences. 

Have you not read the posts I have made about Boise State?  There is a huge difference between Boise State's academics and the other schools in the Pac 10.  They are  not a comprehensive Ph.D. institution. They have 20,000 students but a handful of PhD programs.  The other schools in the Pac 10, including Colorado and Utah, are light years ahead of Boise State academically.

Presidents of institutions have to approve conference changes.  No way would the Pac 10 Presidents have admitted Boise State.  No way in the world.....their application would have been laughed at.

The Pac 10 schools have bring in grants and contracts on the order of 500 million per year.....some more (Cal, some less, Washington State).  But all bring in significant dollars.

Boise State's grants and contracts is probably on the order between 10 and 25 million per year.

Their conference affiliation is determined not only by one sport....but all sports and (and) the type of instittution that they are.  They are a third tier institution in Idaho alone.  Both Idaho University and Idaho State are more comprehensive institutions.

I am quite surprised that Nebraska was allowed to join the Big 10.  They are not in the same category academically as the rest......they are significantly behind Iowa State as an institition in terms of visibility beyond athletics.......way behind.  Academically, they are on par with KState, Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma.......KU, Missouri are ahead and Iowa State is on top.

Include the Texas schools:  UT > Texas A&M > Baylor > Other Texas Schools ~ Oklahoma.

IN the Big Ten:  All schools are very similar academically...some stronger than others....U of M is very near the top.  Weak sisters in the big 10 are Univ. of Iowa and now the weakest is Univ. of Nebraska-Lincoln.  Northwestern, despite its small undergraduate enrollment, has a very large graduate school enrollment and a very strong medical school and law school.  Purdue is a great engineering university.

This was a huge win for NEbraska Lincoln.....to go into the Big 10.  Not so much for football but a huge win for the University as a whole.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Holy crap Miles. We can't even find a decent coach and you want us formulating our flux capacitors to produce different colored grass??

Baby steps dude...baby.