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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/5/2016 6:04:23 PM

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1 SEC-WEST (A) = 81.34 82.59 ( 1) 7 81.63 ( 1)
2 PAC-12(NORTH) (A) = 79.03 79.91 ( 2) 6 79.41 ( 2)
3 BIG TEN-EAST (A) = 78.14 78.78 ( 3) 7 78.05 ( 3)
4 PAC-12(SOUTH) (A) = 76.16 76.48 ( 5) 6 76.27 ( 5)
5 ACC-COASTAL (A) = 76.06 74.65 ( 7) 7 75.29 ( 7)
6 BIG TEN-WEST (A) = 76.04 75.06 ( 6) 7 75.82 ( 6)

If you look at the Sagarin conference rankings, the seeds should have been different.

If you simply took the conference winners it would have been:
1) Bama
2) Washington
3) Penn State
4) Colorado

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/5/2016 6:10:37 PM

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quote:

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1 SEC-WEST (A) = 81.34 82.59 ( 1) 7 81.63 ( 1)
2 PAC-12(NORTH) (A) = 79.03 79.91 ( 2) 6 79.41 ( 2)
3 BIG TEN-EAST (A) = 78.14 78.78 ( 3) 7 78.05 ( 3)
4 PAC-12(SOUTH) (A) = 76.16 76.48 ( 5) 6 76.27 ( 5)
5 ACC-COASTAL (A) = 76.06 74.65 ( 7) 7 75.29 ( 7)
6 BIG TEN-WEST (A) = 76.04 75.06 ( 6) 7 75.82 ( 6)

If you look at the Sagarin conference rankings, the seeds should have been different.

If you simply took the conference winners it would have been:
1) Bama
2) Washington
3) Penn State
4) Colorado

What a joke that would be.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/5/2016 6:39:17 PM

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I think it needs to be an 8 team playoff.

But the conference champ from each of the 5 power conferences would be in. Then 3 at large bids.

The committee can decide seeding and the 3 at large teams.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/5/2016 6:57:04 PM

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Wisc is under rated if anything.

They weren't even in the top 25 to start the season and picked to finished 3rd in West.

If winning 10 plus games every year is over rated I think any program would love that. Esp your Trojans.

Now you wouldn't get an argument out of me if you called the Gophers over rated. They were picked to win the West with a cup cake schedule and they soiled themselves as usual.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/6/2016 7:54:54 AM

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I saw 538 called this Bama team the best in history

bull

I will take the early 2000s Miami team all day long

I might even take the famous Iving Fryar Huskers even with their loss

I have seen several better teams

How is that Clinton Presidency working out for you Nate Silver?

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/6/2016 8:43:02 AM

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I think they were mostly referring to the Bama D vs Miami D.

Bama does not have an elite offense so they don't belong in the conversation as best team ever.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/6/2016 9:00:41 AM

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quote:

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I saw 538 called this Bama team the best in history

bull

I will take the early 2000s Miami team all day long

I might even take the famous Iving Fryar Huskers even with their loss

I have seen several better teams

How is that Clinton Presidency working out for you Nate Silver?

I would say the USC team that beat Oklahoma 55-19 in the BCS national championship was pretty solid. Lets not forget, the Sooners had Adrian Peterson on that team.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/6/2016 9:06:06 AM

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quote:

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quote:

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I saw 538 called this Bama team the best in history

bull

I will take the early 2000s Miami team all day long

I might even take the famous Iving Fryar Huskers even with their loss

I have seen several better teams

How is that Clinton Presidency working out for you Nate Silver?

I would say the USC team that beat Oklahoma 55-19 in the BCS national championship was pretty solid. Lets not forget, the Sooners had Adrian Peterson on that team.

Yeah - several teams I would place above the 2016 Tide

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/6/2016 9:06:41 AM

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Wisc is under rated if anything.

They weren't even in the top 25 to start the season and picked to finished 3rd in West.

If winning 10 plus games every year is over rated I think any program would love that. Esp your Trojans.

Now you wouldn't get an argument out of me if you called the Gophers over rated. They were picked to win the West with a cup cake schedule and they soiled themselves as usual.

Where are the 10 wins coming from? Until the past two seasons the Big Ten has been one of the worst power five conferences in the country over the past decade. Urban Meyer and Jim Harbaugh have put them back on the map. Yet, Wisconsin still couldn't hold on to a lead against arguably the third best team in the other conference in the Big Ten title game.

Wisconsin can have its 10 wins. Their division is an absolute joke in football. The Trojans will continue to play for national titles.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/6/2016 9:15:08 AM

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National Titles By School Top-10

1) UCLA 113
2) Stanford 109
3) USC 103
4) Oklahoma State 51
5) Penn State 48
t6) Texas 44
t6) Arkansas 44
8) LSU 43
9) North Carolina 42
t10) California 36
t10) Michigan 36

The Pac 12 is the benchmark for all other conferences when it comes to student-athletes. Not only are the athletes great, but they have to go to be really smart to even get into the majority of the schools. Every conference should model themselves after the Pac 12. It's why they call if the Conference of Champions.

Most of the other schools on that list are an absolute joke when it comes to academics. You barely have to breath to get into Oklahoma State, Arkansas or LSU.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/6/2016 9:30:17 AM

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quote:

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I saw 538 called this Bama team the best in history

bull

I will take the early 2000s Miami team all day long

I might even take the famous Iving Fryar Huskers even with their loss

I have seen several better teams

How is that Clinton Presidency working out for you Nate Silver?

This falls into the "that sandwich I just had is the best sandwich in the history of sandwiches"

Millennial mindset.
Everything that happens to them is the best/worst/greatest EVER.

(I fall for it too)

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/6/2016 9:32:16 AM

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2001 Miami Hurricanes, who trailed only twice all season. This historic Hurricanes team was rarely challenged and ended the season with a commanding 37-14 win over Nebraska in the Rose Bowl.

This Miami team wasn't just the greatest team of the BCS era, some believe it's college football's greatest team ever.

On the season, Miami outscored its opponents 512-117, including 236-72 against five teams that were ranked at the time they played. In back-to-back games against Syracuse and Washington, the Canes produced the biggest two-game margins of victory against a pair of ranked teams in college football history (124-7).

No, coach Larry Coker didn't have a Heisman winner on his team, but he coached 17 future first-round draft picks and 38 total draft picks. Of the 22 starters in that Nebraska shellacking, 11 of the 18 who were drafted went in the first round. There were a handful of All-Americans on this team and six national awards finalists. The size, speed, strength and athleticism that this team showed was rivaled by just about no one that season. Its swagger and style paid homage to 1980s Canes teams, but this team brought its own sort of dominating edge that made it a true force.

With offensive studs such as Ken Dorsey, Clinton Portis, Andre Johnson, Jeremy Shockey and Bryant McKinnie, it's no surprise that the Canes pounded their opponents with 42.7 points per game and 5,475 yards on the season. With scary defensive talent like Ed Reed, Phillip Buchanon, D.J. Williams, Jonathan Vilma, Jerome McDougle and Mike Rumph, you can understand why opponents struggled to score 9.8 points per game, were sacked 42 times and turned it over 48 times.

http://www.espn.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/93084/2001-miami-hurricanes-were-bcs-best

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/6/2016 4:37:53 PM

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1995 Nebraska, 72 USC, 2001 Miami.
I know who I like, but it's quite a discussion.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/6/2016 4:47:49 PM

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Nebraska (1995)
Nebraska Cornhuskers

Combine a great offense -- 50-plus points per game -- with a great defense. Add a tough schedule, including four Top 10 teams, which the Cornhuskers trounced by no fewer than 23 points. Stir in Ahman Green and Lawrence Phillips for an incredible running attack. Presto. You've got a second straight national championship, topped by a 62-24 humiliation of second-ranked Florida in the Fiesta Bowl, and one of the best teams ever, in any sport.

Here in Nebraska we wonder if the 1971 team was just as good? Nebraska (1971)
Nebraska Cornhuskers

Many consider the 1971 version of the Cornhuskers the best college football team ever, and we can't find any reason to disagree. The team averaged more than 39 points a game on offense, and surrendered only 8.2 points a game. Led by kick and punt returner par excellence Johnny Rodgers (who won the 1972 Heisman), the top-ranked Cornhuskers defeated No. 2 Oklahoma 35-31 on Thanksgiving Day, in what some have called the "Game of the Century." They rounded out their 13-0 season with a 38-6 drubbing of Alabama in the Orange Bowl.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/7/2016 12:12:58 PM

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USC is a 7-point favorite over Penn State in the Rose Bowl

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/7/2016 1:16:14 PM

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USC is a 7-point favorite over Penn State in the Rose Bowl

This feels like the old Rose Bowl match-ups of my youth, in the '70s and '80s.
B10 teams head west, confident in their abilities.
Used to almost always be over by half.
Year after year of ass-kickings is what I remember.
Pissed my parents off so bad. They'd pull for our B10 teams "because you're supposed to" while I'd pull for the Trojans, the Bruins, the Huskies.
I could see USC pounding PSU the way the season has played out.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/7/2016 1:29:20 PM

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USC is a 7-point favorite over Penn State in the Rose Bowl

This feels like the old Rose Bowl match-ups of my youth, in the '70s and '80s.
B10 teams head west, confident in their abilities.
Used to almost always be over by half.
Year after year of ass-kickings is what I remember.
Pissed my parents off so bad. They'd pull for our B10 teams "because you're supposed to" while I'd pull for the Trojans, the Bruins, the Huskies.
I could see USC pounding PSU the way the season has played out.

Yep. They are going to see what an NFL quarterback looks like for the first time all season.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/7/2016 7:28:56 PM

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quote:

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USC is a 7-point favorite over Penn State in the Rose Bowl

This feels like the old Rose Bowl match-ups of my youth, in the '70s and '80s.
B10 teams head west, confident in their abilities.
Used to almost always be over by half.
Year after year of ass-kickings is what I remember.
Pissed my parents off so bad. They'd pull for our B10 teams "because you're supposed to" while I'd pull for the Trojans, the Bruins, the Huskies.
I could see USC pounding PSU the way the season has played out.

It's nice to have home field advantage in a major bowl game.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/7/2016 7:40:07 PM

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Would have been damn hard to sell that New years Day game in Iowa .....

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/7/2016 7:42:20 PM

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The Washington Huskies have had one hell of a season. Hoping it turns into a Natty. Would be a magical ending.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/7/2016 7:42:55 PM

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I'm just sayin'. Don't hate me.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/7/2016 7:56:10 PM

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The Washington Huskies have had one hell of a season. Hoping it turns into a Natty. Would be a magical ending.

Nobody is giving them a chance. The last time Peterson had that situation at Boise State he beat Oklahoma on one of the greatest finishes of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odbim7OBZlk

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/7/2016 8:12:05 PM

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Would have been damn hard to sell that New years Day game in Iowa .....

Sure. Nonetheless.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/16/2016 10:37:55 PM

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Nice RB(Abdullah) from James Madison. Torched NDSU tonight. Catches ball well also.

Maybe in rounds 4 or 5.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 12/17/2016 7:45:06 PM

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http://newsok.com/article/5531208

Mixon just became undraftable

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