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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/12/2014 3:26:03 PM   
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Still a College coach does not put in half the hours an NFL coach does. Plus the salary is not much different but I don't know the numbers.

The stress is much higher but he did get a sweetheart offer and I think the timing was right. If he flopped at Sea he could ride off in the sunset or return to the college ranks.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/12/2014 5:58:27 PM   
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Still a College coach does not put in half the hours an NFL coach does. Plus the salary is not much different but I don't know the numbers.

The stress is much higher but he did get a sweetheart offer and I think the timing was right. If he flopped at Sea he could ride off in the sunset or return to the college ranks.

Not close to being true. College coaching is 12 months long. If they aren't preparing for games they are recruiting.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/13/2014 5:44:11 PM   
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Still a College coach does not put in half the hours an NFL coach does. Plus the salary is not much different but I don't know the numbers.

The stress is much higher but he did get a sweetheart offer and I think the timing was right. If he flopped at Sea he could ride off in the sunset or return to the college ranks.

Not close to being true. College coaching is 12 months long. If they aren't preparing for games they are recruiting.


I listen to espn radio alot and they've repeatly said its not even close.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/16/2014 2:34:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Bradley H

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Still a College coach does not put in half the hours an NFL coach does. Plus the salary is not much different but I don't know the numbers.

The stress is much higher but he did get a sweetheart offer and I think the timing was right. If he flopped at Sea he could ride off in the sunset or return to the college ranks.

Not close to being true. College coaching is 12 months long. If they aren't preparing for games they are recruiting.


I listen to espn radio alot and they've repeatly said its not even close.

ESPN Radio can say it, but it doesn't make it true.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/17/2014 11:21:00 AM   
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I really liked him last year but I think this guy is really hurting his chances for the NFL with this type of stuff

Given the current climate in the NFL I could see his stock really falling



http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11542412/florida-state-seminoles-qb-jameis-winston-suspended-first-half-game-clemson-tigers-shouting-obscene-phrase-public

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/17/2014 11:28:49 AM   
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I really liked him last year but I think this guy is really hurting his chances for the NFL with this type of stuff

Given the current climate in the NFL I could see his stock really falling



http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11542412/florida-state-seminoles-qb-jameis-winston-suspended-first-half-game-clemson-tigers-shouting-obscene-phrase-public



I really hope he turns it around, like his former teammate Benjamin. Early on, Benjamin had some maturity and work ethic issues but he seemed to put that behind him.
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/17/2014 11:30:23 AM   
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He needs another year in college

He needs to put together a year with no off the field issues and a positive attitude

Today's NFL is going to be real leery of a guy with sexual assault and theft allegations who is a punk on top of that.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/17/2014 9:51:05 PM   
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He needs another year in college

He needs to put together a year with no off the field issues and a positive attitude

Today's NFL is going to be real leery of a guy with sexual assault and theft allegations who is a punk on top of that.


No doubt after all these domestic violence cases. He is too big of a talent at the most premium position though.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 2:07:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: John Childress

He needs another year in college

He needs to put together a year with no off the field issues and a positive attitude

Today's NFL is going to be real leery of a guy with sexual assault and theft allegations who is a punk on top of that.



Talent enough to be the #1 pick. He's behaving himself to the fourth round.

I would love to see him stay in school. At best, maturity is a serious issue.

Fooball wise, all he really has to do is shorten up that delivery. That's really the only mechanical issue he has.
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 8:10:25 AM   
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Kill is the real deal



Based on what? Big Ten stinks, has Kill even broken .500 in the league for a season yet?

You are the real deal when you have a season you would be happy with all the time. That hasn't happened yet.
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 9:56:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

Kill is the real deal



Based on what? Big Ten stinks, has Kill even broken .500 in the league for a season yet?

You are the real deal when you have a season you would be happy with all the time. That hasn't happened yet.

I base it on Kill getting the most of out shit for talent...more wins than he should get with that talent and being in games they probably shouldn't be in...

plus I think he is doing a fair job recruiting to for a near impossible place to recruit to
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 10:43:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

Kill is the real deal



Based on what? Big Ten stinks, has Kill even broken .500 in the league for a season yet?

You are the real deal when you have a season you would be happy with all the time. That hasn't happened yet.

I base it on Kill getting the most of out shit for talent...more wins than he should get with that talent and being in games they probably shouldn't be in...

plus I think he is doing a fair job recruiting to for a near impossible place to recruit to



Look at what Boise State did for the past ten years and say that again with a straight face.
Jerry Kill is not the real deal.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 10:50:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: McMurfy

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

Kill is the real deal



Based on what? Big Ten stinks, has Kill even broken .500 in the league for a season yet?

You are the real deal when you have a season you would be happy with all the time. That hasn't happened yet.

I base it on Kill getting the most of out shit for talent...more wins than he should get with that talent and being in games they probably shouldn't be in...

plus I think he is doing a fair job recruiting to for a near impossible place to recruit to



Look at what Boise State did for the past ten years and say that again with a straight face.
Jerry Kill is not the real deal.

Just look at the offense. It isn't designed for success in 2014. A slow, plodding offensive scheme isn't the way to attract high-profile recruits. I can name junior colleges that Wolitarski would never get in a game.

East Mississippi JC would give the Gophers everything they want in a game. They have no less than 40 D1 athletes on the team, many of which will be playing in the SEC.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 12:31:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

Kill is the real deal



Based on what? Big Ten stinks, has Kill even broken .500 in the league for a season yet?

You are the real deal when you have a season you would be happy with all the time. That hasn't happened yet.

I base it on Kill getting the most of out shit for talent...more wins than he should get with that talent and being in games they probably shouldn't be in...

plus I think he is doing a fair job recruiting to for a near impossible place to recruit to


"Impossible" that is some strong language.

I remember Urban Meyer doing pretty well at Utah.
Iowa has had some nice runs and few would pick Iowa City over Minneapolis.
North Dakota St. would beat the hell out of the Gophers today.
Lubbock Texas is no destination but Mike Leech did a hell of a job there.
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 3:10:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: McMurfy

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

Kill is the real deal



Based on what? Big Ten stinks, has Kill even broken .500 in the league for a season yet?

You are the real deal when you have a season you would be happy with all the time. That hasn't happened yet.

I base it on Kill getting the most of out shit for talent...more wins than he should get with that talent and being in games they probably shouldn't be in...

plus I think he is doing a fair job recruiting to for a near impossible place to recruit to



Look at what Boise State did for the past ten years and say that again with a straight face.
Jerry Kill is not the real deal.


Boise State is a MUCH better football school than the U of M. Nestled in the Rockies.
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 3:12:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

Kill is the real deal



Based on what? Big Ten stinks, has Kill even broken .500 in the league for a season yet?

You are the real deal when you have a season you would be happy with all the time. That hasn't happened yet.

I base it on Kill getting the most of out shit for talent...more wins than he should get with that talent and being in games they probably shouldn't be in...

plus I think he is doing a fair job recruiting to for a near impossible place to recruit to



Look at what Boise State did for the past ten years and say that again with a straight face.
Jerry Kill is not the real deal.


Boise State is a MUCH better football school than the U of M. Nestled in the Rockies.



There is a hump to get over. Have to win a bit to start drawing recruits attention. Then you start getting better recruits and you start winning more...then more recruits etc etc etc.

Kill is working on the hump and starting to appeal a little to some recruits.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 3:31:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: McMurfy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

Kill is the real deal



Based on what? Big Ten stinks, has Kill even broken .500 in the league for a season yet?

You are the real deal when you have a season you would be happy with all the time. That hasn't happened yet.

I base it on Kill getting the most of out shit for talent...more wins than he should get with that talent and being in games they probably shouldn't be in...

plus I think he is doing a fair job recruiting to for a near impossible place to recruit to



Look at what Boise State did for the past ten years and say that again with a straight face.
Jerry Kill is not the real deal.


Boise State is a MUCH better football school than the U of M. Nestled in the Rockies.



There is a hump to get over. Have to win a bit to start drawing recruits attention. Then you start getting better recruits and you start winning more...then more recruits etc etc etc.

Kill is working on the hump and starting to appeal a little to some recruits.


It was much worse when they had to play in the dump, but the U of M is still at a disadvantage because there really isn't a "campus"
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 5:28:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: McMurfy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

Kill is the real deal



Based on what? Big Ten stinks, has Kill even broken .500 in the league for a season yet?

You are the real deal when you have a season you would be happy with all the time. That hasn't happened yet.

I base it on Kill getting the most of out shit for talent...more wins than he should get with that talent and being in games they probably shouldn't be in...

plus I think he is doing a fair job recruiting to for a near impossible place to recruit to



Look at what Boise State did for the past ten years and say that again with a straight face.
Jerry Kill is not the real deal.


Boise State is a MUCH better football school than the U of M. Nestled in the Rockies.


Uh yeah, because all of those inner city football players from the cities, and Detroit and Chicago dream of playing in the Rocky Mountains.

By the way, Boise is flat, dry, almost all white and a few hours away from the Rocky Mountains.

Jerry Kill is in over his head, unless you want his head in mediocre land.


Make that almost 8 hours to the Rocky Mountains

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 5:54:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

Kill is the real deal



Based on what? Big Ten stinks, has Kill even broken .500 in the league for a season yet?

You are the real deal when you have a season you would be happy with all the time. That hasn't happened yet.

I base it on Kill getting the most of out shit for talent...more wins than he should get with that talent and being in games they probably shouldn't be in...

plus I think he is doing a fair job recruiting to for a near impossible place to recruit to



Look at what Boise State did for the past ten years and say that again with a straight face.
Jerry Kill is not the real deal.


Boise State is a MUCH better football school than the U of M. Nestled in the Rockies.


Uh yeah, because all of those inner city football players from the cities, and Detroit and Chicago dream of playing in the Rocky Mountains.

By the way, Boise is flat, dry, almost all white and a few hours away from the Rocky Mountains.

Jerry Kill is in over his head, unless you want his head in mediocre land.


Make that almost 8 hours to the Rocky Mountains


Oh please.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/relocating/boise/idaho.html

It's not because Boise is situated perfectly between Idaho's Rocky Mountains and the vast Great Basin deserts that stretch northward from Nevada. Nor is it that three rivers converge near here: the Boise, the Payette, and the Snake. It's not that the Boise area includes some of the country's best mountain biking trails, or that deep powder and steeply pitched rock are less than 20 minutes from downtown restaurants and coffeehouses
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 6:42:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

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ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

Kill is the real deal



Based on what? Big Ten stinks, has Kill even broken .500 in the league for a season yet?

You are the real deal when you have a season you would be happy with all the time. That hasn't happened yet.

I base it on Kill getting the most of out shit for talent...more wins than he should get with that talent and being in games they probably shouldn't be in...

plus I think he is doing a fair job recruiting to for a near impossible place to recruit to



Look at what Boise State did for the past ten years and say that again with a straight face.
Jerry Kill is not the real deal.


Boise State is a MUCH better football school than the U of M. Nestled in the Rockies.


Uh yeah, because all of those inner city football players from the cities, and Detroit and Chicago dream of playing in the Rocky Mountains.

By the way, Boise is flat, dry, almost all white and a few hours away from the Rocky Mountains.

Jerry Kill is in over his head, unless you want his head in mediocre land.


Make that almost 8 hours to the Rocky Mountains


Oh please.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/relocating/boise/idaho.html

It's not because Boise is situated perfectly between Idaho's Rocky Mountains and the vast Great Basin deserts that stretch northward from Nevada. Nor is it that three rivers converge near here: the Boise, the Payette, and the Snake. It's not that the Boise area includes some of the country's best mountain biking trails, or that deep powder and steeply pitched rock are less than 20 minutes from downtown restaurants and coffeehouses



Nice try, I've actually been there.

You have to go around a smaller range to get to the Rockies.
Your quote is correct only if you fail to realize the vastness of the Great Basin, The Rocky Mountains, and the lack of roads between Boise and the Rockies.


Most of the metropolitan area lies on a broad, flat plain, descending to the west. Mountains rise to the northeast, stretching from the far southeastern tip of the Boise city limits to nearby Eagle. These mountains are known to locals as the Boise foothills and are sometimes described as the foothills of the Rocky Mountains. About 34 miles (55 km) southwest of Boise, and about 26 miles (42 km) southwest of Nampa, the Owyhee Mountains lie entirely in neighboring Owyhee County.

According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 80.05 square miles (207.33 km2), of which, 79.36 square miles (205.54 km2) is land and 0.69 square miles (1.79 km2) is water.[1] The city is drained by the Boise River. The City of Boise is considered part of the Treasure Valley.


From Boise, ID
To Rocky Mountains


7 h 52 min (491.1 mi) via US-20 E and I-15 N
Directions
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8 h 8 min (555.3 mi) via I-84 E and I-15 N
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9 h 8 min (453.4 mi) via US-12 E

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 6:43:55 PM   
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Look at a map of the US, Boise is closer to Oregon than it is to Wyoming

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 8:11:56 PM   
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I have not had a chance to see Mariota play this season. Has he looked good?
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/18/2014 9:08:51 PM   
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I have not had a chance to see Mariota play this season. Has he looked good?


Yes.
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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/20/2014 6:40:25 PM   
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Indiana representing the BIG 10 real well!!!
Just beat the 18th team in the nation from a pretty good conference.

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RE: College Football (Future Vikings!) - 9/20/2014 9:36:57 PM   
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FSU sure looks toothless without Winston

as dumb as he is off the field is as good as he is on the field

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