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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 8:37:51 AM   
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I like this tweet from A-Rod.

Binders lead to blinders. Manage with blinders on, you miss what’s actually happening in real time.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 8:51:19 AM   
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I like this tweet from A-Rod.

Binders lead to blinders. Manage with blinders on, you miss what’s actually happening in real time.



Yup

How about this one from one of the TwinsDaily writers?

How did @MLB have no positive tests for weeks, go into a “bubble,” and then somehow have a guy test positive in the middle of the final #WorldSeries game?

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 8:56:14 AM   
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I like this tweet from A-Rod.

Binders lead to blinders. Manage with blinders on, you miss what’s actually happening in real time.

I gotta say, been watching closely a for a long time now
ARod tries man. He really really tries.
He could have just flipped us all off long ago and strutted out, but the dude obviously loves the game and is trying his hardest to get along.
If you've watched too many segments with him and the panel like I have, you might get what I mean.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 9:02:26 AM   
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Still puzzled this morning

So, you test positive, you're told to isolate, you don't, you head out to celebrate, your wife walks over to you, and you slide your mask down and plant one on her.
Whaaaaaaaaat?

Is this another moment when I realize its ME that is F-ed in the head? Because this seems like an unreal test of whats right and whats wrong.
That's an ok action for everyone?
Does Turner know something we don't about this virus, is he some sort of genius with a secret? Or was this just blatant, open stupidity that everyone seems to be ok with?
I remain puzzled.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 9:04:37 AM   
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Still puzzled this morning

So, you test positive, you're told to isolate, you don't, you head out to celebrate, your wife walks over to you, and you slide your mask down and plant one on her.
Whaaaaaaaaat?

Is this another moment when I realize its ME that is F-ed in the head? Because this seems like an unreal test of whats right and whats wrong.
That's an ok action for everyone?
Does Turner know something we don't about this virus, is he some sort of genius with a secret? Or was this just blatant, open stupidity that everyone seems to be ok with?
I remain puzzled.

I think a lactose intolerant person has an easier time processing dairy than I am having trying to process this scenario.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 11:31:23 AM   
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Has the source of Turners positive test confirmed?

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 11:44:45 AM   
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Has the source of Turners positive test confirmed?

I don't know, but he passed the Trumper test for sure.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 11:59:50 AM   
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Still puzzled this morning

So, you test positive, you're told to isolate, you don't, you head out to celebrate, your wife walks over to you, and you slide your mask down and plant one on her.
Whaaaaaaaaat?

Is this another moment when I realize its ME that is F-ed in the head? Because this seems like an unreal test of whats right and whats wrong.
That's an ok action for everyone?
Does Turner know something we don't about this virus, is he some sort of genius with a secret? Or was this just blatant, open stupidity that everyone seems to be ok with?
I remain puzzled.


Guessing the wife has been sleeping with him and figured if she is going to get it, she likely already has?
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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 12:26:22 PM   
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Hmmm

Either way, different wife than I have.
If there's a chance I haven't infected her, I'd probably at least be kind enough to keep it that way.
Guessing I'm just weird that way.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 12:44:43 PM   
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Hmmm

Either way, different wife than I have.
If there's a chance I haven't infected her, I'd probably at least be kind enough to keep it that way.
Guessing I'm just weird that way.

The only explanation is she tested positive too? I DON'T KNOW! IT'S ALL I CAN COME UP WITH!

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 12:47:21 PM   
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Or maybe aiming for herd immunity. Just doing their part.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 2:40:08 PM   
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Pretty awesome attempt at explaining this to me.

Justin Turner's selfish World Series celebration is a symptom of a much larger problem

Jay Busbee
Wed, October 28, 2020, 10:24 AM CDT


You’d think baseball, of all sports, would know the dangers of celebrating before the final out is in the books. You’d think the Dodgers, just three days removed from one of the most wrenching last-second defeats in World Series history, would realize that a game’s not over just because you want it to be.
And yet baseball might have just managed to blow a 10-run, two-out, two-strike, bottom-of-the-ninth lead on COVID-19, all because Justin Turner had to get his picture with the World Series trophy after being pulled from the lineup in the 8th inning for testing positive.
I don’t know what it’s like to win a World Series, and probably neither do you. But here’s what we all do know: We know what it’s like to go months without hugging our distant loved ones. We know what it’s like to watch children wear cute little masks, unaware of how heartbreaking that is. We know what it’s like to stare, day after day, at the same walls, at the same computer screen. We know what it’s like to worry about the health of our older relatives, worry about the effects on kids kept out of school, worry about our jobs and our mental health. We know difficult times demand difficult choices.
So, yeah, when you see someone like Turner just casually flaunting the hard-and-fast, no-gray-area rules a billion-dollar industry put in place to preserve some sense of normalcy (yes, and financial solvency) — it doesn’t go over so well. You see Turner — a guy who, again, literally just tested positive for COVID-19 — happily partying mask-off among his teammates, the same way you see beachgoers or attendees at a rally mingling up cheek-to-cheek, and you want to rip your television off the wall.

Make no mistake: This isn’t about mask-shaming or pearl-clutching scare tactics about “what might happen if.” This is science. The dude had a positive test. This isn’t “acceptable risk.” This is willfully endangering others — and their kids, and their older relatives — in the midst of a new surge for a few minutes of celebration.
I know all the smug defenses — the almost-certain survival rate for someone in Turner’s demographic; the relatively low possibility of transmission in an open-air environment; the fact that he might have already infected teammates before the test results were known; the whole aw, come on, let ’em celebrate mindset. I also know that you only need to look as far as the Dodgers’ bullpen to see what COVID-19 can do to even healthy pro athletes.
Closer Kenley Jansen contracted COVID-19 prior to the start of the season, and it wracked him for two full weeks. "Recovering from COVID was tough," Jansen told ESPN this week. "You still feel side effects once in a while. Your body feels — I don't know, fighting it."
Turner is the focus here, but he’s not the scapegoat; he had plenty of enablers along the way. Baseball and the Dodgers have plenty to answer for here too. After a stumbling start with multiple infections across several teams, the cries of “Shut it down!” surged. But baseball found its footing and pressed on, and like the NBA and NHL, played for weeks on end — 58 straight days, until Turner — without a positive test. That’s an admirable testament — plus a healthy share of good luck — to the league and the players who sacrificed for a greater purpose.
But the league owes the Dodgers a fruit basket for winning Tuesday night. Had baseball adhered to its own guidelines, Game 7 would have likely been postponed, with many of Turner’s teammates potentially quarantined as well. A Game 6 victory prevented that public-relations nightmare, but couldn’t prevent the terrible optics of Turner sitting on the field, unmasked and grinning, amid dozens of teammates and team officials.
Team and league security officials apparently tried to stop Turner from rejoining his teammates, but he was determined to push through, regardless of what it meant for everyone around him. And, apparently, he had some accomplices willing to bend the rules on his behalf.
“We’re going to get him a picture, then get him off [the field],” one Dodgers official said, according to The Athletic. “We can’t deny him that. The guy is the heart and soul of the organization.”
This is the conflict that’s at the heart of the entire coronavirus response in America. We don’t want to deny ourselves any good times — the parties, the hangouts, the World Series celebrations — even if it means spreading the virus further, even if it just means extending the date when America returns to “normal” far past that of so many other countries that have curbed the virus’ spread.
Sure, anyone with a shred of empathy would feel bad for Turner, having to sit on a folding chair in some sterile Globe Life Stadium back room, watching his teammates celebrate one of their life’s highlights just a few feet away. But how many millions of Americans have missed out on celebrating less-televised — but no less meaningful — moments of their own? Birthdays, graduations, reunions, holidays — all sacrificed in the name of the greater good. I’d love to have a World Series-style dogpile with my extended family on Thanksgiving. But that’s not happening this year, not for me, probably not for you, and not for most Americans.
We’re all looking for pandemic solutions. In the absence of solutions, we’re looking for hope. And in the absence of hope, we’re looking for anyone to tell us relax, this isn’t really all that bad, regardless of whether they have any idea what they’re talking about. Turner and all the other Americans who continue to hang out in crowds, mingle up close in bars, attend crowded rallies and weddings and parties are in effect saying, “See? This is no big deal!”
If only that were the truth.
The World Series is done. The much larger, far more important battle isn’t even close to being over.


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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 2:41:20 PM   
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Dude hits about ten important things in there, right on the head of the nail.
If you ask me.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 6:00:01 PM   
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Buster Olney@Buster_ESPN

The numerous examples today of teams declining to pick up contractual options on players for 2021 are the first tangible signs of just how difficult this winter is going to be for free agents, something predicted for months by agents and team officials.
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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 10:14:54 PM   
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The numerous examples today of teams declining to pick up contractual options on players for 2021 are the first tangible signs of just how difficult this winter is going to be for free agents, something predicted for months by agents and team officials.



As it stands, before any arbitration decisions, the #MNTwins are replacing 36% of their 2020 MLB active roster.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/28/2020 11:11:59 PM   
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The off-season of 2020 will resemble the off-season of 2008 when the recession limited off-season contracts except the Twins and Nick Punto.

Arod makes astute observations because he is in a relationship with J Lo who is as hot at 50 as she was at 25.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/29/2020 7:19:28 AM   
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The off-season of 2020 will resemble the off-season of 2008 when the recession limited off-season contracts except the Twins and Nick Punto.

Arod makes astute observations because he is in a relationship with J Lo who is as hot at 50 as she was at 25.

I have come to that conclusion as well.
Have to stay sharp around that.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/29/2020 7:45:18 AM   
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This is a massive list of guys who will and won't command $$$

Terry Ryan would be unable to walk with such a list


http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/transactions/#month=10&year=2020

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/29/2020 9:20:22 AM   
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See Manfred get all discombobulated at the ceremony the other night?
Loved it.
I hope it continues. BETTMANN! still gets booed for his stupidity, years later, too.
It was telling, he could barely get words out afterwards.
Yeah, we know … you got BOUGHT or INTIMIDATED by someone, and now you're paying, just like the players who skated by unscathed.
Hopefully no one forgets.
Good luck trying to law down some law the next time you need to, gutless wonder.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/29/2020 9:22:24 AM   
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Love it

Manfred deserves what he gets.

Ownership puppet.

Really don't expect the next agreement talks to go well

Ownership wants to get a good piece of the players.

Sorry, you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/29/2020 10:50:23 AM   
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Per FOX: The World Series averaged 9.785 million viewers over six games on FOX. That is the least-watched World Series on record.

Previous lows:

12.7 million viewers (Giants-Tigers, 2012)
13.6M (Phillies-Rays, 2008)
13.8M Giants-Royals, 2014)


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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/29/2020 10:58:25 AM   
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That's too bad
One of my most enjoyable
Except for the eventual outcome

I'm sure the playoffs were as bad or worse numbers, but I thoroughly enjoyed them as well
Made a great year out of a lemon

NHL was the same
Great playoffs
Nothing to focus on but important games

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/29/2020 1:30:15 PM   
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Wow

Sox going w/LaRussa

The White Sox announced today that Hall of Famer Tony La Russa is returning to the organization as their new manager for the 2021 season. La Russa has agreed to a multi-year deal, tweets Scott Merkin of MLB.com.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/29/2020 1:31:02 PM   
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ESPN’s Jeff Passan tweets that the move to hire La Russa was purely a “Reinsdorf decision” while noting that others in the organizations “have concerns” about La Russa’s ability (or lack thereof) to connect with the club’s young core.

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RE: MLB General Information PT 4 - 10/29/2020 1:32:59 PM   
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I cannot believe Tony can even put his own shoes on at this point.
Seriously. WTH.
He was relevant as a manager DECADES ago. Like 4. Wow.

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