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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 7:42:52 AM   
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As usual, every Viking game gets decided by a couple plays
And they just never fix it
(and yeah, I know, its the whole game, not just a play or two)
Still .... Cousins decides its time to take overt and be Mr Field General, on 3rd and 1 on the last drive?
THAT was the time to get all panicky?
And the 4th and 1 was STUPIDER yet.
Anything more frustrating than watching Cousins retreat 25 yards to try to gain 1?
Yes, I know he was being chased. The play was just shit from the start.
Then you watch as this freaking BISI Johnson, who won't go away, gets a free shot at a Hail Mary, if he wanted it, but I guess he didn't.
Exasperating.

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 7:46:10 AM   
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Anything more frustrating than watching Cousins retreat 25 yards to try to gain 1?


Runners up

Human enema on 2nd and 1

Human enema on 4th and 1


Zero creativity

ZERO

Thielen targeted 3 times all game.

Adjust. Have him run some shorter routes.

Of course, you have to have a line that gives a QB time, and a QB that will actually throw the ball even when you're not completely wide open.

DL Nailed it, Cousins won't throw to someone sorta open unless it's the last resort.

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 7:49:35 AM   
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I go back to Bradford again, the one guy who realized what we have here
He was planning his release before he ever started backpedaling
Cousins reacts every time to pressure like it's a surprise.
Its like WTF. dude .... Have you not watched?
"omg! there's a guy in my face! omg! there's pressure on the back side!"

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

And once again., not meant to rip Cousins, he deserves better time, and when he has it, he's a good QB.
But good god man, adjust to your team's OBVIOUS weaknesses.

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 8:55:03 AM   
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Vikings rookie Justin Jefferson needed only 13 games to cuss out Kirk Cousins

There is one major benefit of NFL games being played in mostly empty stadiums: the microphones pick up player chatter that would otherwise never reach our ears. Or in this case, a player shouting.

Let’s set the scene: the Minnesota Vikings are playing the Chicago Bears at home. The Vikings have the ball in the final minute of the first half. Quarterback Kirk Cousins catches the snap on second-and-goal. He sets to throw, but is soon under pressure. He runs. He runs. He ... runs some more. He finally throws the ball, but too high for rookie wide receiver Justin Jefferson to catch.

How did Jefferson react? He wasn’t happy, and he let Cousins — and the viewing audience — know about it.

If you’re counting, it took just 13 games for Jefferson to loudly cuss out his quarterback on national television. Jefferson better hope Cousins doesn’t make him wash his mouth out with soap after that.


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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 8:59:04 AM   
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Vikings rookie Justin Jefferson needed only 13 games to cuss out Kirk Cousins

There is one major benefit of NFL games being played in mostly empty stadiums: the microphones pick up player chatter that would otherwise never reach our ears. Or in this case, a player shouting.

Let’s set the scene: the Minnesota Vikings are playing the Chicago Bears at home. The Vikings have the ball in the final minute of the first half. Quarterback Kirk Cousins catches the snap on second-and-goal. He sets to throw, but is soon under pressure. He runs. He runs. He ... runs some more. He finally throws the ball, but too high for rookie wide receiver Justin Jefferson to catch.

How did Jefferson react? He wasn’t happy, and he let Cousins — and the viewing audience — know about it.

If you’re counting, it took just 13 games for Jefferson to loudly cuss out his quarterback on national television. Jefferson better hope Cousins doesn’t make him wash his mouth out with soap after that.





https://thespun.com/nfl/nfc-north/minnesota-vikings/justin-jefferson-tweets-about-cussing-out-kirk-cousins

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 9:02:30 AM   
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According to Pete Bercich during the game, Jefferson was open all day. Someone might want to clue Kirk in that it is okay to look for him.

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 9:05:25 AM   
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According to Pete Bercich during the game, Jefferson was open all day. Someone might want to clue Kirk in that it is okay to look for him.



One sack he was open right away.
Cousins was looking elsewhere.

Then the whole middle was open to run

and he was still looking

Then sacked

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 9:10:33 AM   
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According to Pete Bercich during the game, Jefferson was open all day. Someone might want to clue Kirk in that it is okay to look for him.



One sack he was open right away.
Cousins was looking elsewhere.

Then the whole middle was open to run

and he was still looking

Then sacked

I believe that was the sack when I posted...Throw the damn ball! It was the quintessential Cousins play that drives everyone nuts. Third down play, hold the ball waiting for the primary to get open...ignore the great receiver wide open in the flat...ignore the wide open lane to a first down right in front of you...keep waiting...get sacked.

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 9:15:04 AM   
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Yesterday also put Spielman's complete and total failure in addressing the guard position front and center. Hicks and company just feasted on our guards. The one sack, Dozier couldn't have been more worthless if he was a department store mannequin. The final play, Cousins barely gets out from out from under center and there is an untouched DT right in his face.

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 9:50:57 AM   
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Strib boo-hooing the home season ending w/no fans and how sad it is...

They're lucky. The booing would have been at a level not seen in a while.

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 9:54:23 AM   
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Football, coaches like to say, is a game of matchups.

That's true for coaching in the NFC North, and the matchups are no longer favoring Mike Zimmer.

Zimmer is 63-46-1 as the Vikings' coach. That's an impressive record that has granted him longevity. He is the longest-tenured coach in the division. Only six NFL head coaches have held their current jobs longer than Zimmer.

Look at the matchups he's currently facing in his most important games, though, and a Vikings fan might have reason to worry.

On Sunday, the Vikings lost another almost-must-win game, this time 33-27 to the Chicago Bears at U.S. Bank Stadium.

The Vikings have lost two straight to fall to 6-8. They could theoretically make the playoffs, but would have to win at New Orleans and Detroit and then have the NFL bracket chosen by the same fools who chose the college football playoffs.

Sunday's loss means that Zimmer is 1-5 against the Bears' Matt Nagy, who just three weeks ago was thought to be coaching for his job.

Zimmer is 1-3 against Green Bay coach Matt LaFleur, another young offensive coach Zimmer seems to think of as an affront to grumpy old defensive coaches.


And the Detroit Lions, having fired the ridiculous Matt Patricia, will likely hire a talented offensive coach who may know how to use players like Matthew Stafford, Kenny Golladay and D'Andre Swift.

The only time Zimmer has beaten Nagy was earlier this season, when the Bears were playing Nick Foles at quarterback, and were without running back David Montgomery, who has begun playing like a star the last two weeks.

Zimmer's only victory over LaFleur came earlier this season at Lambeau Field.

The Vikings can cite plenty of excuses for their mediocre season, including key injuries and opt-outs. But they remain stocked with star-quality players, including perhaps the best combination of running back and outside receivers in the league.

Yet the Vikings find themselves third in a four-team division, ahead only of one of the worst-run franchises in all of sport.

Sunday, they frequently looked frazzled and disorganized in key moments. For the second time in three years, they faced the Bears in an important game late in the season and watched Mitchell Trubisky, widely regarded as a bust, torch their defense in a hard-to-stomach loss.

When the Bears beat the Vikings 24-10 at the end of the 2018 season, Cousins and Adam Thielen argued on the sideline. On Sunday, Cousins glared or yelled at a couple of receivers and tight end Irv Smith Jr. in the same red-zone sequence, and Justin Jefferson seemed to yell toward Cousins after the quarterback missed him in the back of the end zone.

There were two sequences that made all the difference on Sunday.

Zimmer chose to go for a first down when facing fourth-and-1 from his own 34 with about six minutes left in the second quarter, with his team trailing, 17-7. That felt like an act of desperation even before Dalvin Cook was stopped, and the Bears took advantage of the field position to kick a field goal.

Late in the fourth quarter, Cameron Dantzler made a brilliant interception in the end zone. The Vikings had the ball on their own 20 with 2:57 remaining, trailing 30-27.

This Vikings team isn't the defensive powerhouse it was in 2017. This was a game the offense needed to win, and it was given a chance.

And that offense, featuring all of that skill-position talent and one of the league's highest-paid quarterbacks, could not produce a single first down. On fourth-and-1, Cousins tried to bootleg right, was pressured, and threw a hopeless pass.

"I think the defense needs to look in the mirror, too," Zimmer said.

Fourteen games into the season, the Vikings have beaten one quality opponent (the Packers) and would require a miraculous sequence of events just to squeak into the newly-created seventh playoff seed.

Zimmer's performance on Sunday may help Nagy keep his job.

The NFC North's young coaches may become a threat to Zimmer's.


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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 10:06:57 AM   
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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 10:08:59 AM   
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TRUTH



Coming from Souhan, even!

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 10:13:26 AM   
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Zimmer should be tied down, and forced to watch the Chiefs play offense
For a week straight
But knowing him, he'd emerge even more dead-set in his grass-munchin ways.
Keep thinkin we're all wanting to play 10-7 games, you dinosaur.
Wait, with us, it'd be 10-6, after the XP miss.
Trash this regime, it's never going to get it.
Hand the keys to Bienemy or someone like him.
If they'd take them.
Getting beat by the running game yesterday doesn't mean that's what you should strive to be.

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 10:13:43 AM   
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TRUTH


Coming from Souhan, even!

Yep, and if Souhan got it right, you know it is a Captain Obvious concept.

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 10:18:09 AM   
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Zimmer should be tied down, and forced to watch the Chiefs play offense
For a week straight
But knowing him, he'd emerge even more dead-set in his grass-munchin ways.
Keep thinkin we're all wanting to play 10-7 games, you dinosaur.
Wait, with us, it'd be 10-6, after the XP miss.
Trash this regime, it's never going to get it.
Hand the keys to Bienemy or someone like him.
If they'd take them.
Getting beat by the running game yesterday doesn't mean that's what you should strive to be.

It would be like forcing Alex DeLarge to watch violence over and over in A Clockwork Orange. Zim would only become more traumatized by the sight of all that offense and implement a single wing concept for the Vikings O.

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 10:20:54 AM   
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Zimmer should be tied down, and forced to watch the Chiefs play offense
For a week straight
But knowing him, he'd emerge even more dead-set in his grass-munchin ways.
Keep thinkin we're all wanting to play 10-7 games, you dinosaur.
Wait, with us, it'd be 10-6, after the XP miss.
Trash this regime, it's never going to get it.
Hand the keys to Bienemy or someone like him.
If they'd take them.
Getting beat by the running game yesterday doesn't mean that's what you should strive to be.

It would be like forcing Alex DeLarge to watch violence over and over in A Clockwork Orange. Zim would only become more traumatized by the sight of all that offense and implement a single wing concept for the Vikings O.

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another young offensive coach Zimmer seems to think of as an affront to grumpy old defensive coaches


Grumpy old defensive coach

RETIRE

OR GET FIRED

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 10:28:17 AM   
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Zimmer should be tied down, and forced to watch the Chiefs play offense
For a week straight
But knowing him, he'd emerge even more dead-set in his grass-munchin ways.
Keep thinkin we're all wanting to play 10-7 games, you dinosaur.
Wait, with us, it'd be 10-6, after the XP miss.
Trash this regime, it's never going to get it.
Hand the keys to Bienemy or someone like him.
If they'd take them.
Getting beat by the running game yesterday doesn't mean that's what you should strive to be.

It would be like forcing Alex DeLarge to watch violence over and over in A Clockwork Orange. Zim would only become more traumatized by the sight of all that offense and implement a single wing concept for the Vikings O.

quote:

another young offensive coach Zimmer seems to think of as an affront to grumpy old defensive coaches


Grumpy old defensive coach

RETIRE

OR GET FIRED

I think Zim longs to coach against the likes of Knute Rockne and George Halas.

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 10:31:58 AM   
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I cringe every time Rodgers butters Zimmers ass with his fakey "guy is great about defense" comments
Ol Zims little buttons just pop right off
He's setting you up, coach, and you're eatin it up
The rest of the division is, as usual, laughing it up
At least the Twins dinosaurs win division titles. gulppppppppp

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 10:38:13 AM   
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I cringe every time Rodgers butters Zimmers ass with his fakey "guy is great about defense" comments
Ol Zims little buttons just pop right off
He's setting you up, coach, and you're eatin it up
The rest of the division is, as usual, laughing it up
At least the Twins dinosaurs win division titles. gulppppppppp

Every year we get bitch slapped by the Packers and every year, the playoffs show us the reality that the Packers are nothing special.

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 10:53:45 AM   
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so ... you're tellin me the Twins are the packers.

Ewwwwwww

You're kinda right.

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 10:54:15 AM   
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PFF has already run a computer simulated draft

First 3 Vikings picks

Corner
DE
DLineman


SMH...if the computer thinks like the front office does...then no O-line again?

No frickin' way.

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 11:04:49 AM   
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so ... you're tellin me the Twins are the packers.

Ewwwwwww

You're kinda right.

Thank you for taking my day to a very dark place...




...asshole

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 11:11:19 AM   
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PFF has already run a computer simulated draft

First 3 Vikings picks

Corner
DE
DLineman


SMH...if the computer thinks like the front office does...then no O-line again?

No frickin' way.

Really, the computer simulation I looked at read...
Trade down
CB
Trade down
Trade down
WR
Trade down
5th round OG, PK, LB, Kick Returner Trade down
6th round LB
7th round QB, RB, OG, OT, LB, OT, TE

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RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans - 12/21/2020 11:15:32 AM   
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I cringe every time Rodgers butters Zimmers ass with his fakey "guy is great about defense" comments
Ol Zims little buttons just pop right off
He's setting you up, coach, and you're eatin it up
The rest of the division is, as usual, laughing it up
At least the Twins dinosaurs win division titles. gulppppppppp

Every year we get bitch slapped by the Packers and every year, the playoffs show us the reality that the Packers are nothing special.

Didn't we beat the Packers??
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