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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

He's not a Viking, but he was last year so I'm posting it here.


JAYRON KEARSE
DB, DETROIT LIONS

NFL suspended Lions S Jayron Kearse three games for violating the league's substance-abuse policy.
Kearse was arrested for a DUI last October, leading to his suspension. He made 62 appearances with the Vikings the past three seasons, most recently recording 28 tackles on a career-high 270 (25%) defensive snaps. He'll be available to return in Week 4 at home against the Saints.

SOURCE: Aaron Wilson on Twitter
Jul 31, 2020, 3:52 PM ET

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm thinking that Osborn is looking good.

https://twitter.com/KJ_Osborn/status/1289281894127869953?s=20

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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If Holmes is cut he will be considered a very bad 3rd rd pick. I think kicking the tires on Snacks or (if healthy) Timmy Jernigan might be better than keeping the sloth in Stephens.

Smith is probably cheaper than Gedeon(whom also wasn't a great selection) being it appears Wilson has supplanted him as the 3rd LB. I think they really like Dye to contribute this year.

Brandel should be a protected player on the PS

plus smith has three years left on his rookie deal - gedeon is in his last year...that said, i'd still keep gedeon over smith - he's more instinctive and physical - a thumper that's good against the run....

it wouldn't shock me if we let barr go next season - keep dye, wilson, kendricks and 2021 2nd/3rd round rookie....

I was curious about the salary cap implications of releasing Barr. I mean, I'm a huge fan of him, but I can see that perhaps we are not getting the best value for the huge bucks we are paying. Looking at it, it's clear that we can't cut him this season and even next year will be painful. (7.8 million in dead money) Without looking it up that's comparable to Reiff's contract and impact of cutting him this season. I guess it's possible, but it looks like to me unlikely if he continues to play at a solid, if not spectacular level of play.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/anthony-barr-14418/

Agreed - Kyle & Barr are in similar cap situations - savings might not be worth cutting unless we can replace the production with far cheaper options. Wilson will be URFA next year and might cost too much to be a net cap savings. Don't see Smith or Dye as replacements for Barr.

Reiff's cap situation is entirely different. He'd only have a 2.2M cap hit this year and next with 11M and 12M cap savings. 22.75M combined (20 & 21 season) cap savings. Comparing savings to dead money - it's entirely different than Kyle & Barr, imo.

As long as Zim is our HC Barr will be wearing purple.

I agree. He runs a lot of our scheme through Barr. I wish he would use him more to blitz than to play coverage, but that's his decision.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

This might sound like crazy talk, but I think our government SHOULD impose a no looting/arson ban.

So you want looting and arson?

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Barr - after 2018 season.

His 79.7 pass-rushing grade is seventh among linebackers and his pass-rushing productivity grade of 13.8 is first, according to Pro Football Focus. It’s easy to see why the Jets are looking past his counting stats.

https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/12/jets-sign-anthony-barr-pass-rusher-analysis-vikings-2019-nfl-free-agency/

I remember it differently than KGB - I've always always thought/remembered the stats for Barr as a very effective rusher - just without a lot of opportunities.

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Britton Colquitt’s 2019 season yielded a #Vikings single-season record for net punting average (42.6 yards per punt) - per the team’s website.

Dan Bailey increased his FG percentage from 75% to 93.1% with Colquitt as his holder.

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Barr - after 2018 season.

His 79.7 pass-rushing grade is seventh among linebackers and his pass-rushing productivity grade of 13.8 is first, according to Pro Football Focus. It’s easy to see why the Jets are looking past his counting stats.

https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/12/jets-sign-anthony-barr-pass-rusher-analysis-vikings-2019-nfl-free-agency/

I remember it differently than KGB - I've always always thought/remembered the stats for Barr as a very effective rusher - just without a lot of opportunities.

My memory is that although he didn't get credit for sacks so much, he was successful in disrupting the play. If it was third down, then that is just about as good. I mean, sometimes a player gets credit for a sack, but the loss on the play was only a yard or two. That happens a lot and I think when it happens that I'm happy that the player gets credit for the sack, but that it really was pretty much the same as an incomplete pass. If the team is trying to catch up with the score, an incomplete pass may actually be better because it stops the clock. The inverse of that is that when a team is leading and is on offense near the end of the game, in my opinion it's better to take a modest sack then to throw the ball away. I believe some smarter quarterbacks are aware of that. Of course, then a defensive player gets credit for the sack. It pads their stats. Anyway, I'm just saying that I think that sacks are overblown. A player gets say 8 sacks throughout the season- one every other game. How did he do on all of the other plays? It might have been 80 plays over the two games.

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Or just maybe some other toxic piece of the special teams is no longer with the team? I can’t be the only one to notice exactly when special teams took a significant upswing in quality can I?

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Barr - after 2018 season.

His 79.7 pass-rushing grade is seventh among linebackers and his pass-rushing productivity grade of 13.8 is first, according to Pro Football Focus. It’s easy to see why the Jets are looking past his counting stats.

https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/12/jets-sign-anthony-barr-pass-rusher-analysis-vikings-2019-nfl-free-agency/

I remember it differently than KGB - I've always always thought/remembered the stats for Barr as a very effective rusher - just without a lot of opportunities.

My memory is that although he didn't get credit for sacks so much, he was successful in disrupting the play. If it was third down, then that is just about as good. I mean, sometimes a player gets credit for a sack, but the loss on the play was only a yard or two. That happens a lot and I think when it happens that I'm happy that the player gets credit for the sack, but that it really was pretty much the same as an incomplete pass. If the team is trying to catch up with the score, an incomplete pass may actually be better because it stops the clock. The inverse of that is that when a team is leading and is on offense near the end of the game, in my opinion it's better to take a modest sack then to throw the ball away. I believe some smarter quarterbacks are aware of that. Of course, then a defensive player gets credit for the sack. It pads their stats. Anyway, I'm just saying that I think that sacks are overblown. A player gets say 8 sacks throughout the season- one every other game. How did he do on all of the other plays? It might have been 80 plays over the two games.

Barr can be an effective pass rusher if used enough. Compounding the problem of not using him in that role enough is that he’s poor in pass coverage. In 2019 opposing offenses completed 81% of passes targeting him (per PFF). In the last six games of 2019 which includes playoffs teams completed 100% of their passes targeting Barr. Could just as well send him at the QB if he cant cover - if you ask me.

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Or just maybe some other toxic piece of the special teams is no longer with the team? I can’t be the only one to notice exactly when special teams took a significant upswing in quality can I?

I think having a professional place holder is why bailey's accuracy is much improved.

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Or just maybe some other toxic piece of the special teams is no longer with the team? I can’t be the only one to notice exactly when special teams took a significant upswing in quality can I?

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Barr - after 2018 season.

His 79.7 pass-rushing grade is seventh among linebackers and his pass-rushing productivity grade of 13.8 is first, according to Pro Football Focus. It’s easy to see why the Jets are looking past his counting stats.

https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/12/jets-sign-anthony-barr-pass-rusher-analysis-vikings-2019-nfl-free-agency/

I remember it differently than KGB - I've always always thought/remembered the stats for Barr as a very effective rusher - just without a lot of opportunities.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Barr - after 2018 season.

His 79.7 pass-rushing grade is seventh among linebackers and his pass-rushing productivity grade of 13.8 is first, according to Pro Football Focus. It’s easy to see why the Jets are looking past his counting stats.

https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/12/jets-sign-anthony-barr-pass-rusher-analysis-vikings-2019-nfl-free-agency/

I remember it differently than KGB - I've always always thought/remembered the stats for Barr as a very effective rusher - just without a lot of opportunities.

My memory is that although he didn't get credit for sacks so much, he was successful in disrupting the play. If it was third down, then that is just about as good. I mean, sometimes a player gets credit for a sack, but the loss on the play was only a yard or two. That happens a lot and I think when it happens that I'm happy that the player gets credit for the sack, but that it really was pretty much the same as an incomplete pass. If the team is trying to catch up with the score, an incomplete pass may actually be better because it stops the clock. The inverse of that is that when a team is leading and is on offense near the end of the game, in my opinion it's better to take a modest sack then to throw the ball away. I believe some smarter quarterbacks are aware of that. Of course, then a defensive player gets credit for the sack. It pads their stats. Anyway, I'm just saying that I think that sacks are overblown. A player gets say 8 sacks throughout the season- one every other game. How did he do on all of the other plays? It might have been 80 plays over the two games.

Barr can be an effective pass rusher if used enough. Compounding the problem of not using him in that role enough is that he’s poor in pass coverage. In 2019 opposing offenses completed 81% of passes targeting him (per PFF). In the last six games of 2019 which includes playoffs teams completed 100% of their passes targeting Barr. Could just as well send him at the QB if he cant cover - if you ask me.

He doesn't really belong on the field on obvious passing downs unless he's used as a pass rusher. Good coaches get him matched up against a wr and it's all over.

We keep hoping every year Zim will unleash him in the pass rush and it never happens. This year though with a clear lack of proven DE talent maybe will see him there more often. Not going to bet the farm on it though.

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Or just maybe some other toxic piece of the special teams is no longer with the team? I can’t be the only one to notice exactly when special teams took a significant upswing in quality can I?

OMG what a joke.

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Or just maybe some other toxic piece of the special teams is no longer with the team? I can’t be the only one to notice exactly when special teams took a significant upswing in quality can I?

OMG what a joke.

Ok. It definitely checks out as sound then.

I of course was already there but getting the kg stamp on it drives it home.

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When I go to Twitter I can only find angry politics. Politics divides us, but sports brings us together. That's one of the best things about being a Vikings fan. We are linked together by our common passion for our team. I just wish there was more going on. There's nothing. Nothing is probably better than something at this time, though. If there is news, it's going to be bad. (ie. somebody has tested positive)

Well, I believe the Minnesota Twins, Lynx and United all won yesterday. We have that and it was a good day for Minnesota from that perspective.

If you want something to cheer about you can watch this. I enjoyed it. (Minnesota United scoring quite a few goals)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEeDGHCfXmc

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Or just maybe some other toxic piece of the special teams is no longer with the team? I can’t be the only one to notice exactly when special teams took a significant upswing in quality can I?

OMG what a joke.

Ok. It definitely checks out as sound then.

I of course was already there but getting the kg stamp on it drives it home.

Thanks for your faith in me Todd.

Honestly I just think DF's vendetta against Prieffer is pure comedy. He was stolen from us by another NFL team. Ancient history and IMO ridiculous that DF keeps harping on about him.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

When I go to Twitter I can only find angry politics. Politics divides us, but sports brings us together. That's one of the best things about being a Vikings fan. We are linked together by our common passion for our team. I just wish there was more going on. There's nothing. Nothing is probably better than something at this time, though. If there is news, it's going to be bad. (ie. somebody has tested positive)

Well, I believe the Minnesota Twins, Lynx and United all won yesterday. We have that and it was a good day for Minnesota from that perspective.

If you want something to cheer about you can watch this. I enjoyed it. (Minnesota United scoring quite a few goals)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEeDGHCfXmc

The opponents GoalKeeper was a sieve. He made a nice stop on the PK, but 4 of the 5 goals allowed he had rather easy chances to save. Fun to watch.