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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 11:44:11 AM   
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Protest where no one can see you?

We get it. You only want change if its easy and doesn't get in your way.


Colin Kaepernick has 2.4 million Twitter followers. I am sure he can find a way to be seen without protesting at his workplace.


So only protest to the people that want to see it?

Keep digging that hole.


No one has a First Amendment right to protest at work.

That is not a hole, but a fact.


And yet its allowed by their bosses - and you still have a problem with it.

We get it. You're all for change. Just as long as you don't have to see it happen or be affected by it in any way.

You and KG should start a club.


Oh I think there are clubs already in existence that would be a great fit for them. No need to start a new one.

Yeah I should join the KKK right DF. Or how about the Nazi Party. I'm a huge supporter of both of those.
That was sarcasm in case you didn't figure it out.
I'm the most anti racist Native American, Caucasian and Asian mixed person who's married to an Asian who's lived in the inner city of both Minneapolis and St. Paul, who has best friends of all races and ethnicity that you will ever meet. I've fought racism in my own life by accepting persons of all ethnicity. I've dated White, Black, Native, and Asian. The people Brad refers to as "THEM" I refer to as "US".

"Best" is singular, so you can only have one best friend.

Yours, apparently, is Neopolitan.

LOGIC!!!!!!!!!!

Failed logic. A person can only have one best friend, but a person can have 100 best friends. Those would be that person's 100 favorite friends. I know logic. You don't so stop trying. How about stop being a hateful jerk that wants to spread your hatefulness to everybody.


Hey you have repeatedly shown that you do not know logic. The only way that you can have more than one best friend is all of those best friends are exactly tied in best friend rating. And as best friend rating is inherently non-discrete, the only way that 2 or more individuals can be equivalent in best friend rating is if they are actual clones of each other.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 11:45:23 AM   
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ou don't like the fact that this is a part of Vikings talk these days doesn't mean that it's not. This started because I suggested Kap as backup QB and Bruce made it political.


Politics aside, our backup QB spot could be upgraded, but upgrading it with a player that missed camp and has not played in the NFL since 2016? That sounds kind of crazy to me.

Had we brought him in before camp? That would have been a different story. I would still be a Vikings fan though even if we did. Probably would not buy hiss jersey though.

And I think Mark's point that he may want more money than we can give him is germane. I think he could quickly surpass the current crop, though.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 11:46:41 AM   
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This is not a logic other people know, though:

"A person can only have one best friend, but a person can have 100 best friends."

One and one-hundred are not the same.


I thought the capitalization discussion was a new low, but you guys are trying for another one.

For the record, the opinion seems to be split on the Internet whether you can have more than one best friend.

https://www.google.com/search?q=can+you+have+more+than+one+best+friend&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS806US806&oq=can+you+have+more+than+one+best+firend&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l7.9239j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I am learning so much today.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 11:51:21 AM   
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ou don't like the fact that this is a part of Vikings talk these days doesn't mean that it's not. This started because I suggested Kap as backup QB and Bruce made it political.


Politics aside, our backup QB spot could be upgraded, but upgrading it with a player that missed camp and has not played in the NFL since 2016? That sounds kind of crazy to me.

Had we brought him in before camp? That would have been a different story. I would still be a Vikings fan though even if we did. Probably would not buy hiss jersey though.

And I think Mark's point that he may want more money than we can give him is germane. I think he could quickly surpass the current crop, though.


He may have been able to surpass them , but I would have preferred it to be in a full training camp. The money thing could be an issue also.

There is always the issue of whether you should have backup QB that is a different style QB than your starter. You would want to call different plays with Colin than Mannion.

I think we should try and draft a QB higher next year if we are not excited about Browning or Staley, and it does not appear that we are, because QB is by far the most important position and if you can have a potentially great QB in the wings, you have some great options.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 11:51:46 AM   
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We moved Dan Chisena to safety!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 11:53:42 AM   
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We moved Dan Chisena to safety!


At first I thought you were joking.

Nope.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/8/30/21407951/minnesota-vikings-move-dan-chisena-from-receiver-to-safety
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 11:55:07 AM   
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Capitalization offended you? So fragile.



This comes from someone who is offended by just about anything said, peaceful protests, silent kneeling, you name it. Typical.

Well, wrap yourself in the "Anthem" and enjoy.

And order everyone their t-shirts!


OK, since people keep responding to me. I will respond as well.

I thought national anthem was capitalized, but I was wrong. Star Spangled Banner is capitalized though so whatever point you were trying to make was kind of flimsy.

https://adebayothevoice.com/qa/do-you-capitalize-the-national-anthem.html

And I think it is funny that you and others try and mock my t-shirt idea when "Black Lives Matter" t-shirts are being worn to share a message and the NBA has similar messages on their jerseys.

Wearing messages on your clothing is not some crazy lame idea I dreamt up.



Fortunately, the movement afoot recognizes messages and slogans on t-shirts are not enough.

Star Spangled Banner is capitalized. Whoopee. And not part of the conversation.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 11:55:11 AM   
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Moving a UDFA from offense to defense on August 31 is one of the weirder things I have ever read.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 11:55:11 AM   
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https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/8/31/21408696/minnesota-vikings-approach-riley-reiff-about-restructuring-contract#comments

Restructuring is a waste. I imagine it will be a Griffith situation; pay cut and opt out. Why would Reiff agree to this? Next year the market might be brutal for veterans and it will only save us a few million this year.

If Oneil and Udoh are our Ts, we still have tons of depth in Hill, Ezra, and even Collins and Dozier.

I think Bill proposed the lineup I would go with:

Hill/Ezra, Best of the rest, Bradbury, Udoh, Oneil.

We still have a ton of line flexibility. In the above - I'd also cut Elf, but that's never gonna happen.

I prefer from left to right

O'Neal
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I think Reiff isn't effective at Guard; thus the problem.

I think Reiff just isn't that good, period. The amount of roll outs last year had some to do with Cousins' effectiveness on roll outs and some on buying time by rolling away from Reiff.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 11:57:34 AM   
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This was WITH troops around the area mind you. I've wondered does that screaming woman still feel that she was on the right side of history?



Comparing that to disrespecting our Nation, Flag and Anthem. Really??????????

That is an actual person being terrorized by a mob as opposed to a piece of cloth or a song not being deified, you child.

Quiet please, the grown-ups are talking.



Uh, it's Piece of Cloth and Song. Caps please.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 11:58:40 AM   
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Moving a UDFA from offense to defense on August 31 is one of the weirder things I have ever read.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 11:59:06 AM   
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Star Spangled Banner is capitalized. Whoopee. And not part of the conversation.


Capitalization was never part of the conversation. The Star Spangled Banner was though.

Hey, you won the all-important capitalization argument. Congrats on the big win.

Now if we can get to the bottom of the # of best friends debate I will be truly enlightened.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 11:59:25 AM  1 votes
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Wow, this place really sucks now! Used to be a great place to talk football, but now it is a reflection of the country, one group outshouting the other, can you guess which one is making the loudest noise? Too bad, I liked it here, even when it got a little rough we managed to pull it together, but now, well..... Good luck!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 12:00:15 PM   
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I think we're going to see a LOT more misdirection and pre-snap movement. More Shanahan style - which will help a ton.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 12:00:35 PM  1 votes
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This was WITH troops around the area mind you. I've wondered does that screaming woman still feel that she was on the right side of history?



Comparing that to disrespecting our Nation, Flag and Anthem. Really??????????

That is an actual person being terrorized by a mob as opposed to a piece of cloth or a song not being deified, you child.

Quiet please, the grown-ups are talking.

You just made my point. Comparing her going to school to Kaep disrespecting our Nation, Flag and Anthem ( I capitalized them all) Grow up you intolerant baby.



Please. As you were told, the grown-ups are talking. You can't handle the truth. I found no disrespect with Kap. Not surprised you did, that's on YOU. Maybe when the Vikings kneel you too will bail. One can only hope.

Hey, how did you get off my IP.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 12:02:04 PM   
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Protest where no one can see you?

We get it. You only want change if its easy and doesn't get in your way.


Colin Kaepernick has 2.4 million Twitter followers. I am sure he can find a way to be seen without protesting at his workplace.


So only protest to the people that want to see it?

Keep digging that hole.


No one has a First Amendment right to protest at work.

That is not a hole, but a fact.


And yet its allowed by their bosses - and you still have a problem with it.

We get it. You're all for change. Just as long as you don't have to see it happen or be affected by it in any way.

You and KG should start a club.


Oh I think there are clubs already in existence that would be a great fit for them. No need to start a new one.

Yeah I should join the KKK right DF. Or how about the Nazi Party. I'm a huge supporter of both of those.
That was sarcasm in case you didn't figure it out.
I'm the most anti racist Native American, Caucasian and Asian mixed person who's married to an Asian who's lived in the inner city of both Minneapolis and St. Paul, who has best friends of all races and ethnicity that you will ever meet. I've fought racism in my own life by accepting persons of all ethnicity. I've dated White, Black, Native, and Asian. The people Brad refers to as "THEM" I refer to as "US".

"Best" is singular, so you can only have one best friend.

Yours, apparently, is Neopolitan.

LOGIC!!!!!!!!!!

Failed logic. A person can only have one best friend, but a person can have 100 best friends. Those would be that person's 100 favorite friends. I know logic. You don't so stop trying. How about stop being a hateful jerk that wants to spread your hatefulness to everybody.


Hey you have repeatedly shown that you do not know logic. The only way that you can have more than one best friend is all of those best friends are exactly tied in best friend rating. And as best friend rating is inherently non-discrete, the only way that 2 or more individuals can be equivalent in best friend rating is if they are actual clones of each other.

Wrong. It's so simple and you still don't get it. A person can only have one best friend because friend is singular. However, a person can have an unlimited amount of best FRIENDS because FRIENDS is plural. I could name off my five best friends or I could name off my 1000 best friends. Take a logic class and try again.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 12:02:21 PM   
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I think Reiff just isn't that good, period. The amount of roll outs last year had some to do with Cousins' effectiveness on roll outs and some on buying time by rolling away from Reiff.


With O'Neill, Udoh, Hill and Ezra we could survive at Tackle without him.

At this point, we may well be better off cutting Reiff and picking up a Guard that becomes available.

OK, I do not understand why we did not pick up another Guard sooner, but, hey, what do I know?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 12:03:41 PM   
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This was WITH troops around the area mind you. I've wondered does that screaming woman still feel that she was on the right side of history?



Comparing that to disrespecting our Nation, Flag and Anthem. Really??????????

That is an actual person being terrorized by a mob as opposed to a piece of cloth or a song not being deified, you child.

Quiet please, the grown-ups are talking.

You just made my point. Comparing her going to school to Kaep disrespecting our Nation, Flag and Anthem ( I capitalized them all) Grow up you intolerant baby.



Please. As you were told, the grown-ups are talking. You can't handle the truth. I found no disrespect with Kap. Not surprised you did, that's on YOU. Maybe when the Vikings kneel you too will bail. One can only hope.

Hey, how did you get off my IP.

Bill you're a jerk. You always have been. If I'm off your IP it's because you turned it off. Please turn it back on.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 12:04:24 PM   
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And, for the record, I am FOR school desegregation because somehow that became a topic here.


Wrong again. The 'topic' was white anger at a progressive moment for the country.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 12:04:46 PM   
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Wow, this place really sucks now! Used to be a great place to talk football, but now it is a reflection of the country, one group outshouting the other, can you guess which one is making the loudest noise? Too bad, I liked it here, even when it got a little rough we managed to pull it together, but now, well..... Good luck!

Agreed and well put

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 12:07:29 PM   
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Hey guys, there is a Social Issues thread in the Politics forum where we can discuss this at length.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 12:08:45 PM   
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Wow, this place really sucks now! Used to be a great place to talk football, but now it is a reflection of the country, one group outshouting the other, can you guess which one is making the loudest noise? Too bad, I liked it here, even when it got a little rough we managed to pull it together, but now, well..... Good luck!

Agreed and well put

Bill what am I supposed to do. Let them shout the loudest and go into hiding. I did that on the COVID thread. I get sick of them always thinking they won because they were the nastiest and the loudest. The hatred coming from that group of people is almost unbelievable. They might be civil for a brief while, but they always go back to their hateful shouting and incredible nastiness.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 12:09:19 PM  1 votes
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Or maybe we can open a new football thread and abandon this cesspool

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 12:09:44 PM   
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Star Spangled Banner is capitalized. Whoopee. And not part of the conversation.


Capitalization was never part of the conversation. The Star Spangled Banner was though.

Hey, you won the all-important capitalization argument. Congrats on the big win.

Now if we can get to the bottom of the # of best friends debate I will be truly enlightened.


Wrapping yourself in Anthem was though.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 8/31/2020 12:10:57 PM   
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This was WITH troops around the area mind you. I've wondered does that screaming woman still feel that she was on the right side of history?



Comparing that to disrespecting our Nation, Flag and Anthem. Really??????????

That is an actual person being terrorized by a mob as opposed to a piece of cloth or a song not being deified, you child.

Quiet please, the grown-ups are talking.

You just made my point. Comparing her going to school to Kaep disrespecting our Nation, Flag and Anthem ( I capitalized them all) Grow up you intolerant baby.



Please. As you were told, the grown-ups are talking. You can't handle the truth. I found no disrespect with Kap. Not surprised you did, that's on YOU. Maybe when the Vikings kneel you too will bail. One can only hope.

Hey, how did you get off my IP.

Bill you're a jerk. You always have been. If I'm off your IP it's because you turned it off. Please turn it back on.


Poor lil guy.
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