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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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And the other side of an unhappy RB

After missing practices the last few days, the #Saints are open to trading RB Alvin Kamara, according to @JosinaAnderson. Oh boy....

Hmmm.. That's a bit surprising. He's a pretty dynamic rb. 81 catches 3 years straight

He's holding out and wants a massive contract.

15ml I read

I think the Saints are in bad shape cap wise already.

But Kamara is similar to CMC and is a good route runner.

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Market probably for ONeill


Rapoport reported the deal tacks on four new years to Decker's existing contract that is set to pay him $10.35 million in 2020, meaning the following four years are worth $60 million.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Pager

And the other side of an unhappy RB

After missing practices the last few days, the #Saints are open to trading RB Alvin Kamara, according to @JosinaAnderson. Oh boy....

Hmmm.. That's a bit surprising. He's a pretty dynamic rb. 81 catches 3 years straight

He's holding out and wants a massive contract.

15ml I read

I think the Saints are in bad shape cap wise already.

But Kamara is similar to CMC and is a good route runner.

Kamara is great. He's out performed both guys drafted ahead of him.

Cook: 3 years, 29 games, 457/2104/17, 4.6 Y/A. 104/914/2, 8.8 Y/R
Mixon: 3 years, 44 games, 693/2931/17, 4.2 Y/A. 108/870/4, 8.1 Y/R
Kamara: 3 years, 45 games, 485/2408/27, 5.0 Y/A. 243/2068/10, 8.5 Y/R

To get a better picture, total yards:

Cook: 561 Touches, 3018 yards, 5.4 Y/Tch, 19 TDs.
Mixon: 801 Touches, 3801 yards, 4.7 Y/Tch, 21 TDs.
Kamara: 728 Touches, 4476 yards, 6.4 Y/Tch, 37 TDs.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Pager

And the other side of an unhappy RB

After missing practices the last few days, the #Saints are open to trading RB Alvin Kamara, according to @JosinaAnderson. Oh boy....

Hmmm.. That's a bit surprising. He's a pretty dynamic rb. 81 catches 3 years straight

He's holding out and wants a massive contract.

15ml I read

I think the Saints are in bad shape cap wise already.

But Kamara is similar to CMC and is a good route runner.

Kamara is great. He's out performed both guys drafted ahead of him.

Cook: 3 years, 29 games, 457/2104/17, 4.6 Y/A. 104/914/2, 8.8 Y/R
Mixon: 3 years, 44 games, 693/2931/17, 4.2 Y/A. 108/870/4, 8.1 Y/R
Kamara: 3 years, 45 games, 485/2408/27, 5.0 Y/A. 243/2068/10, 8.5 Y/R

To get a better picture, total yards:

Cook: 561 Touches, 3018 yards, 5.4 Y/Tch, 19 TDs.
Mixon: 801 Touches, 3801 yards, 4.7 Y/Tch, 21 TDs.
Kamara: 728 Touches, 4476 yards, 6.4 Y/Tch, 37 TDs.

Is it possible that being a part of the Saints all world offense might help him a little. I know it goes the other way also, but most RBs would do better in New Orleans than just about anywhere else. I don't think he's a better back than Cook.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Pager

And the other side of an unhappy RB

After missing practices the last few days, the #Saints are open to trading RB Alvin Kamara, according to @JosinaAnderson. Oh boy....

Hmmm.. That's a bit surprising. He's a pretty dynamic rb. 81 catches 3 years straight

He's holding out and wants a massive contract.

15ml I read

I think the Saints are in bad shape cap wise already.

But Kamara is similar to CMC and is a good route runner.

Kamara is great. He's out performed both guys drafted ahead of him.

Cook: 3 years, 29 games, 457/2104/17, 4.6 Y/A. 104/914/2, 8.8 Y/R
Mixon: 3 years, 44 games, 693/2931/17, 4.2 Y/A. 108/870/4, 8.1 Y/R
Kamara: 3 years, 45 games, 485/2408/27, 5.0 Y/A. 243/2068/10, 8.5 Y/R

To get a better picture, total yards:

Cook: 561 Touches, 3018 yards, 5.4 Y/Tch, 19 TDs.
Mixon: 801 Touches, 3801 yards, 4.7 Y/Tch, 21 TDs.
Kamara: 728 Touches, 4476 yards, 6.4 Y/Tch, 37 TDs.

Is it possible that being a part of the Saints all world offense might help him a little. I know it goes the other way also, but most RBs would do better in New Orleans than just about anywhere else. I don't think he's a better back than Cook.

Kamara is a better back than Cook. Just my opinion. Both are very good.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Pager

And the other side of an unhappy RB

After missing practices the last few days, the #Saints are open to trading RB Alvin Kamara, according to @JosinaAnderson. Oh boy....

Hmmm.. That's a bit surprising. He's a pretty dynamic rb. 81 catches 3 years straight

He's holding out and wants a massive contract.

15ml I read

I think the Saints are in bad shape cap wise already.

But Kamara is similar to CMC and is a good route runner.

Kamara is great. He's out performed both guys drafted ahead of him.

Cook: 3 years, 29 games, 457/2104/17, 4.6 Y/A. 104/914/2, 8.8 Y/R
Mixon: 3 years, 44 games, 693/2931/17, 4.2 Y/A. 108/870/4, 8.1 Y/R
Kamara: 3 years, 45 games, 485/2408/27, 5.0 Y/A. 243/2068/10, 8.5 Y/R

To get a better picture, total yards:

Cook: 561 Touches, 3018 yards, 5.4 Y/Tch, 19 TDs.
Mixon: 801 Touches, 3801 yards, 4.7 Y/Tch, 21 TDs.
Kamara: 728 Touches, 4476 yards, 6.4 Y/Tch, 37 TDs.

Is it possible that being a part of the Saints all world offense might help him a little. I know it goes the other way also, but most RBs would do better in New Orleans than just about anywhere else. I don't think he's a better back than Cook.

Kamara is a better back than Cook. Just my opinion. Both are very good.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Pager

And the other side of an unhappy RB

After missing practices the last few days, the #Saints are open to trading RB Alvin Kamara, according to @JosinaAnderson. Oh boy....

Hmmm.. That's a bit surprising. He's a pretty dynamic rb. 81 catches 3 years straight

He's holding out and wants a massive contract.

15ml I read

I think the Saints are in bad shape cap wise already.

But Kamara is similar to CMC and is a good route runner.

Kamara is great. He's out performed both guys drafted ahead of him.

Cook: 3 years, 29 games, 457/2104/17, 4.6 Y/A. 104/914/2, 8.8 Y/R
Mixon: 3 years, 44 games, 693/2931/17, 4.2 Y/A. 108/870/4, 8.1 Y/R
Kamara: 3 years, 45 games, 485/2408/27, 5.0 Y/A. 243/2068/10, 8.5 Y/R

To get a better picture, total yards:

Cook: 561 Touches, 3018 yards, 5.4 Y/Tch, 19 TDs.
Mixon: 801 Touches, 3801 yards, 4.7 Y/Tch, 21 TDs.
Kamara: 728 Touches, 4476 yards, 6.4 Y/Tch, 37 TDs.

Is it possible that being a part of the Saints all world offense might help him a little. I know it goes the other way also, but most RBs would do better in New Orleans than just about anywhere else. I don't think he's a better back than Cook.

Kamara is a better back than Cook. Just my opinion. Both are very good.

Agreed.

From a pure talent standpoint, I'd rate them Kamara, Cook, Mixon.

But you also have to figure in durability. Cook has played almost a full season less than the other two. And while he managed to only miss 2 games this year, once he got dinged, he was never the same.

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I'd have to give the system edge to Kamara, better oline, better talent at all levels. I also think Cook is much better between the tackles offsetting a slight gap where Kamara is better in the passing game.


Article on the piss poor planning on the OL.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/9/1/21417456/vikings-ol-this-is-the-plan


Unless we saved a bunch from Reiff, and our line is markedly better from last year (27th pass pro), I'm gonna be b******* all season about this.

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Been hearing reports that Tyler Johnson is REALLY struggling in Tampa Bay. Seems like he’s in the roster bubble right now. There may be a homecoming in order.

Jared Hardness NFL on Twitter

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Mixon Details:

Full details on the #Bengals deal for RB Joe Mixon’s 4-year, $48M deal:
— $10M signing bonus. $1.3M base in 2020.
— $8M base in 2021.
— $8M in 2022.
— $9.4M in 2023.
— Club option for $9.6M in 2024.
— $500K each year in playtime and $200K offseason workout bonus each year.


We'd have to backload a little more and 3M in incentives would have to be upped to 8-12M. Only 19M guarantted.

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Mixon Details:

Full details on the #Bengals deal for RB Joe Mixon’s 4-year, $48M deal:
— $10M signing bonus. $1.3M base in 2020.
— $8M base in 2021.
— $8M in 2022.
— $9.4M in 2023.
— Club option for $9.6M in 2024.
— $500K each year in playtime and $200K offseason workout bonus each year.


We'd have to backload a little more and 3M in incentives would have to be upped to 8-12M. Only 19M guarantted.

Not sure how that adds up to 48 million for four years

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Been hearing reports that Tyler Johnson is REALLY struggling in Tampa Bay. Seems like he’s in the roster bubble right now. There may be a homecoming in order.

Jared Hardness NFL on Twitter

Or he just might not be that good. He looked really good at the U when I saw him, but maybe that's his high end. The Big Ten defenses are traditionally not that good. Hopefully he won't be another Treadwell.....

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I'd have to give the system edge to Kamara, better oline, better talent at all levels. I also think Cook is much better between the tackles offsetting a slight gap where Kamara is better in the passing game.


Article on the piss poor planning on the OL.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/9/1/21417456/vikings-ol-this-is-the-plan


Unless we saved a bunch from Reiff, and our line is markedly better from last year (27th pass pro), I'm gonna be b******* all season about this.

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I'd have to give the system edge to Kamara, better oline, better talent at all levels. I also think Cook is much better between the tackles offsetting a slight gap where Kamara is better in the passing game.


Article on the piss poor planning on the OL.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/9/1/21417456/vikings-ol-this-is-the-plan


Unless we saved a bunch from Reiff, and our line is markedly better from last year (27th pass pro), I'm gonna be b******* all season about this.

Article is pretty spot on. I see no plan at all just knee jerk front office moves and coachspeak about these "so called" open competitions.

In pass pro Dozier was dead last 81 out 81 qualifying G's. Elf 75.

I think perhaps some off season focus should have been placed on upgrading the G position.

We were given lip speak that we could fill the positions in house...same old same old

Instead we upgrade the DE position and about throw the oline into chaos 12 days before the opener. Again not seeing a plan here. Just a regime treating this unit as if it has no importance.

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I'd have to give the system edge to Kamara, better oline, better talent at all levels. I also think Cook is much better between the tackles offsetting a slight gap where Kamara is better in the passing game.


Article on the piss poor planning on the OL.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/9/1/21417456/vikings-ol-this-is-the-plan


Unless we saved a bunch from Reiff, and our line is markedly better from last year (27th pass pro), I'm gonna be b******* all season about this.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I'd have to give the system edge to Kamara, better oline, better talent at all levels. I also think Cook is much better between the tackles offsetting a slight gap where Kamara is better in the passing game.


Article on the piss poor planning on the OL.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/9/1/21417456/vikings-ol-this-is-the-plan


Unless we saved a bunch from Reiff, and our line is markedly better from last year (27th pass pro), I'm gonna be b******* all season about this.

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I guess the best way to say it for me would anybody be happy if moments after our team was vanquished by the 49ers largely because our OLine got completely destroyed by the 9er DLine that our big move to improve this giant hole in the roster would be to move our worst OLineman to RG, and move his backup in to start at LG?

Pretty insane on its face...

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

I guess the best way to say it for me would anybody be happy if moments after our team was vanquished by the 49ers largely because our OLine got completely destroyed by the 9er DLine that our big move to improve this giant hole in the roster would be to move our worst OLineman to RG, and move his backup in to start at LG?

Pretty insane on its face...