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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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riley reiff in 2021 is still a $14m cap hit with $2.2m dead money....

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Yannick Ngakoue on playing with Danielle Hunter:

"We want to become the best of the best. We want to be elite. When they talk about edge rushers, you want them to talk about Danielle and Yannick."

(Vikings Corner on Twitter)

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes


Our strategy has been, as Childress or more importantly Immortan Joe would say, "Mediocre"! Draft one player in the first 4 rds, make some wild stabs in the later rounds, pick up a middling vet or two, and allow Cousins start another prayer group.

Beavers Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton 'has' (not the plural 'have' because that is one big amorphous blob of OL talent) produced one good starter (so far) in O'Neill and below average overall OL play. Our last game was freakin' abysmal how could we not be panicking and selling out for OL help?

Sure, hopefully Bradbury makes a big leap this year and is average or better, and Cleveland / one of the late round stabs will end up being more than just depth – but only a true homer thinks that's a given.

After the volcanic free agency eruption of Reiff and Remmers in 2017, we have augmented our draft strategy with Josh Andrews, Tom Compton, Bryan Witzmann, Josh Kline, Brett Jones, Dakota Dozier.

I wonder if Hall had passed his physical, if we still would have signed Ngakoue ... probably. Our 'dire' cap situation seems only to be dire in relation to helping the OL, not the rest of the team and especially not the defense.

Great post,. I LOLed at the bolded.

"Beavers Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton".

Going back further and you have the likes of Clemmings and Yankey as well.

We have one excellent player from that list, a few who have already busted out and a bunch of question marks, We need to get 4 good-to-great starters from that list. There are three starters on the list, but only one has yet qualified under the "good-to-great' part.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

WR. One can question whether they should have traded Diggs, but drafting Jefferson, signing an improving Sharpe, expecting more from Smith Jr, and emphasizing rushing combine to help alleviate losing Diggs.

IDL. After they signed Pierce, I was ok with the rotating mass of humanity that would start next to Pierce. His opting out put us in a bind. They traded for a fatty, but he failed his physical. The IDT is more about Pierce opting out than not having a plan, for this offseason at least.

IOL. I wonder if they seriously miscalculated thinking one or more players would step up in year two, which Zimmer referenced. As cheap Red McCombs said "Sometimes you gotta coach 'em up!". I'd say half the 'blame' is poor planning, a quarter potentially being less than stellar coaching, and a quarter being the virus which shortened coaching and practices.

Of the three positions, IOL is the one I would point fingers at being the most mismanaged. But we are also talking about LG, C, and RG. If Bradbury shows improvement, that's still both G spots whereas with WR and DT (with Pierce) we are talking one spot.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes


Our strategy has been, as Childress or more importantly Immortan Joe would say, "Mediocre"! Draft one player in the first 4 rds, make some wild stabs in the later rounds, pick up a middling vet or two, and allow Cousins start another prayer group.

Beavers Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton 'has' (not the plural 'have' because that is one big amorphous blob of OL talent) produced one good starter (so far) in O'Neill and below average overall OL play. Our last game was freakin' abysmal how could we not be panicking and selling out for OL help?

Sure, hopefully Bradbury makes a big leap this year and is average or better, and Cleveland / one of the late round stabs will end up being more than just depth – but only a true homer thinks that's a given.

After the volcanic free agency eruption of Reiff and Remmers in 2017, we have augmented our draft strategy with Josh Andrews, Tom Compton, Bryan Witzmann, Josh Kline, Brett Jones, Dakota Dozier.

I wonder if Hall had passed his physical, if we still would have signed Ngakoue ... probably. Our 'dire' cap situation seems only to be dire in relation to helping the OL, not the rest of the team and especially not the defense.

Great post,. I LOLed at the bolded.

"Beavers Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton".

Going back further and you have the likes of Clemmings and Yankey as well.

We have one excellent player from that list, a few who have already busted out and a bunch of question marks, We need to get 4 good-to-great starters from that list. There are three starters on the list, but only one has yet qualified under the "good-to-great' part.

Thanks. I will grant you that the Spielman has drafted more and better OL in the last few years ... but the standard is low and our current situation is based on a lot of jacked-up hopefulness.

Spielman as GM OL Summary

2012 - 2016 (first 5 years)
Kalil Baca Bond Yankey Clemmings Thompson Shepherd Beavers

The offensive line apocalypse of 2016

2017 -2020 (last four years)
Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes


Our strategy has been, as Childress or more importantly Immortan Joe would say, "Mediocre"! Draft one player in the first 4 rds, make some wild stabs in the later rounds, pick up a middling vet or two, and allow Cousins start another prayer group.

Beavers Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton 'has' (not the plural 'have' because that is one big amorphous blob of OL talent) produced one good starter (so far) in O'Neill and below average overall OL play. Our last game was freakin' abysmal how could we not be panicking and selling out for OL help?

Sure, hopefully Bradbury makes a big leap this year and is average or better, and Cleveland / one of the late round stabs will end up being more than just depth – but only a true homer thinks that's a given.

After the volcanic free agency eruption of Reiff and Remmers in 2017, we have augmented our draft strategy with Josh Andrews, Tom Compton, Bryan Witzmann, Josh Kline, Brett Jones, Dakota Dozier.

I wonder if Hall had passed his physical, if we still would have signed Ngakoue ... probably. Our 'dire' cap situation seems only to be dire in relation to helping the OL, not the rest of the team and especially not the defense.

Great post,. I LOLed at the bolded.

"Beavers Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton".

Going back further and you have the likes of Clemmings and Yankey as well.

We have one excellent player from that list, a few who have already busted out and a bunch of question marks, We need to get 4 good-to-great starters from that list. There are three starters on the list, but only one has yet qualified under the "good-to-great' part.

Thanks. I will grant you that the Spielman has drafted more and better OL in the last few years ... but the standard is low and our current situation is based on a lot of jacked-up hopefulness.

Spielman as GM OL Summary

2012 - 2016 (first 5 years)
Kalil Baca Bond Yankey Clemmings Thompson Shepherd Beavers

The offensive line apocalypse of 2016

2017 -2020 (last four years)
Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton

It's obvious Spielman and the scouts he has assembled have little to no clue how to evaluate olineman.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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riley reiff in 2021 is still a $14m cap hit with $2.2m dead money....

The dead cap wasn't going to change. The salary will be agreed to or he will be cut.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Here's an NFC North podcast preview by a couple of clowns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=323&v=2Y9nn7BZFAQ&feature=emb_logo
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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Here's an NFC North podcast preview by a couple of clowns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=323&v=2Y9nn7BZFAQ&feature=emb_logo

Congrats for being on a podcast. When you said Riley "Rife" it told me that you don't
really follow the Vikings very closely. Not knowing how to pronounce the name of a
player you are critiquing or discussing is pretty sad. When the other guy mentioned that
we'll be running the ball 2 out of 4 plays every series, I realized that he is not aware of
other options that the NFL allows such as punting. I won't comment on your choice of the
Lions to win the North I hope you do well in your podcast endeavors and I would kindly
recommend that you both learn a little bit more about what you're talking about. It makes
it more interesting to listen to. If, however, this is the best that you both want to do, then
it is an embarrassment to Viking fans everywhere

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

He gets it.

Yannick Ngakoue on Vikings - Packers rivalry: "Packers was my first game ever in this league back in 2016 and I had a bad taste in my mouth after we lost that game, so I just wanna show those guys what I can do and run it back and get this W for Minnesota."

(tanishka on Twitter)

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: hagar

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

Here's an NFC North podcast preview by a couple of clowns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=323&v=2Y9nn7BZFAQ&feature=emb_logo

Congrats for being on a podcast. When you said Riley "Rife" it told me that you don't
really follow the Vikings very closely. Not knowing how to pronounce the name of a
player you are critiquing or discussing is pretty sad. When the other guy mentioned that
we'll be running the ball 2 out of 4 plays every series, I realized that he is not aware of
other options that the NFL allows such as punting. I won't comment on your choice of the
Lions to win the North I hope you do well in your podcast endeavors and I would kindly
recommend that you both learn a little bit more about what you're talking about. It makes
it more interesting to listen to. If, however, this is the best that you both want to do, then
it is an embarrassment to Viking fans everywhere

What the hell I'm going to listen to it until I fall asleep. I don't hate the first couple minutes. I'll listen until I fall asleep.
I finished it. Not a bad job at all. Brad being Brad picking the Lions to win the division, but as good as most of these podcasts I've heard.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes


Our strategy has been, as Childress or more importantly Immortan Joe would say, "Mediocre"! Draft one player in the first 4 rds, make some wild stabs in the later rounds, pick up a middling vet or two, and allow Cousins start another prayer group.

Beavers Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton 'has' (not the plural 'have' because that is one big amorphous blob of OL talent) produced one good starter (so far) in O'Neill and below average overall OL play. Our last game was freakin' abysmal how could we not be panicking and selling out for OL help?

Sure, hopefully Bradbury makes a big leap this year and is average or better, and Cleveland / one of the late round stabs will end up being more than just depth – but only a true homer thinks that's a given.

After the volcanic free agency eruption of Reiff and Remmers in 2017, we have augmented our draft strategy with Josh Andrews, Tom Compton, Bryan Witzmann, Josh Kline, Brett Jones, Dakota Dozier.

I wonder if Hall had passed his physical, if we still would have signed Ngakoue ... probably. Our 'dire' cap situation seems only to be dire in relation to helping the OL, not the rest of the team and especially not the defense.

Great post,. I LOLed at the bolded.

"Beavers Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton".

Going back further and you have the likes of Clemmings and Yankey as well.

We have one excellent player from that list, a few who have already busted out and a bunch of question marks, We need to get 4 good-to-great starters from that list. There are three starters on the list, but only one has yet qualified under the "good-to-great' part.

Thanks. I will grant you that the Spielman has drafted more and better OL in the last few years ... but the standard is low and our current situation is based on a lot of jacked-up hopefulness.

Spielman as GM OL Summary

2012 - 2016 (first 5 years)
Kalil Baca Bond Yankey Clemmings Thompson Shepherd Beavers

The offensive line apocalypse of 2016

2017 -2020 (last four years)
Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton

It's obvious Spielman and the scouts he has assembled have little to no clue how to evaluate olineman.

I think O'Neil, Bradbury, Udoh and Cleveland will all be good players.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes


Our strategy has been, as Childress or more importantly Immortan Joe would say, "Mediocre"! Draft one player in the first 4 rds, make some wild stabs in the later rounds, pick up a middling vet or two, and allow Cousins start another prayer group.

Beavers Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton 'has' (not the plural 'have' because that is one big amorphous blob of OL talent) produced one good starter (so far) in O'Neill and below average overall OL play. Our last game was freakin' abysmal how could we not be panicking and selling out for OL help?

Sure, hopefully Bradbury makes a big leap this year and is average or better, and Cleveland / one of the late round stabs will end up being more than just depth – but only a true homer thinks that's a given.

After the volcanic free agency eruption of Reiff and Remmers in 2017, we have augmented our draft strategy with Josh Andrews, Tom Compton, Bryan Witzmann, Josh Kline, Brett Jones, Dakota Dozier.

I wonder if Hall had passed his physical, if we still would have signed Ngakoue ... probably. Our 'dire' cap situation seems only to be dire in relation to helping the OL, not the rest of the team and especially not the defense.

Great post,. I LOLed at the bolded.

"Beavers Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton".

Going back further and you have the likes of Clemmings and Yankey as well.

We have one excellent player from that list, a few who have already busted out and a bunch of question marks, We need to get 4 good-to-great starters from that list. There are three starters on the list, but only one has yet qualified under the "good-to-great' part.

Thanks. I will grant you that the Spielman has drafted more and better OL in the last few years ... but the standard is low and our current situation is based on a lot of jacked-up hopefulness.

Spielman as GM OL Summary

2012 - 2016 (first 5 years)
Kalil Baca Bond Yankey Clemmings Thompson Shepherd Beavers

The offensive line apocalypse of 2016

2017 -2020 (last four years)
Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton

It's obvious Spielman and the scouts he has assembled have little to no clue how to evaluate olineman.

I think O'Neil, Bradbury, Udoh and Cleveland will all be good players.

So far 2 can't crack the starting line up and another one is only starting due to lofty draft status not performance. O'Neal is good-Blind squirrel nut theory.

Spielman is good at certain things, assembling an oline isn't one of them.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: unome

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes


Our strategy has been, as Childress or more importantly Immortan Joe would say, "Mediocre"! Draft one player in the first 4 rds, make some wild stabs in the later rounds, pick up a middling vet or two, and allow Cousins start another prayer group.

Beavers Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton 'has' (not the plural 'have' because that is one big amorphous blob of OL talent) produced one good starter (so far) in O'Neill and below average overall OL play. Our last game was freakin' abysmal how could we not be panicking and selling out for OL help?

Sure, hopefully Bradbury makes a big leap this year and is average or better, and Cleveland / one of the late round stabs will end up being more than just depth – but only a true homer thinks that's a given.

After the volcanic free agency eruption of Reiff and Remmers in 2017, we have augmented our draft strategy with Josh Andrews, Tom Compton, Bryan Witzmann, Josh Kline, Brett Jones, Dakota Dozier.

I wonder if Hall had passed his physical, if we still would have signed Ngakoue ... probably. Our 'dire' cap situation seems only to be dire in relation to helping the OL, not the rest of the team and especially not the defense.

Great post,. I LOLed at the bolded.

"Beavers Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton".

Going back further and you have the likes of Clemmings and Yankey as well.

We have one excellent player from that list, a few who have already busted out and a bunch of question marks, We need to get 4 good-to-great starters from that list. There are three starters on the list, but only one has yet qualified under the "good-to-great' part.

Thanks. I will grant you that the Spielman has drafted more and better OL in the last few years ... but the standard is low and our current situation is based on a lot of jacked-up hopefulness.

Spielman as GM OL Summary

2012 - 2016 (first 5 years)
Kalil Baca Bond Yankey Clemmings Thompson Shepherd Beavers

The offensive line apocalypse of 2016

2017 -2020 (last four years)
Elflein Isidora O'Neill Gossett Bradbury Samia Udoh Cleveland Brandel Hinton

It's obvious Spielman and the scouts he has assembled have little to no clue how to evaluate olineman.

I think O'Neil, Bradbury, Udoh and Cleveland will all be good players.

So far 2 can't crack the starting line up and another one is only starting due to lofty draft status not performance. O'Neal is good-Blind squirrel nut theory.

Spielman is good at certain things, assembling an oline isn't one of them.

Wow a second year player and a rookie not starting and another 2nd year starter isn't a star yet. I stand by my comment. I think all of them will be good players.