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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 4:49:20 PM   
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Dakota Dozier has a 49.7 PFF grade for the season, ranking him 75th out of 83 guards (Samia is 82nd). Can the Vikings at least try a week of Jones and Cleveland at guard?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 4:52:21 PM   
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Dakota Dozier has a 49.7 PFF grade for the season, ranking him 75th out of 83 guards (Samia is 82nd). Can the Vikings at least try a week of Jones and Cleveland at guard?

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Our coaching staff regarding their judgement on G's is brutal.

Samia was the main backup to Dozier and Elf?

I see absolutely no reason why not to try out Collins or Udoh.

Cleveland seemed like a more natural fit at LG. Moving him to the right probably buried him in the depth chart.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 5:07:17 PM   
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Dakota Dozier has a 49.7 PFF grade for the season, ranking him 75th out of 83 guards (Samia is 82nd). Can the Vikings at least try a week of Jones and Cleveland at guard?

Eric Thompson on Twitter

Our coaching staff regarding their judgement on G's is brutal.

Samia was the main backup to Dozier and Elf?

I see absolutely no reason why not to try out Collins or Udoh.

Cleveland seemed like a more natural fit at LG. Moving him to the right probably buried him in the depth chart.

I've been grinding on this since the roster was set. Last year it was decided that Kilne and Elflien were an inadequate guard tandem. The solution was go into this season with Kline's backup and Elflien. No off position on the genius switch there.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 5:51:26 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 6:29:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just don't get it either - regarding G choices. I think Ezra was 3rd string LG during training camp but with injuries has held up very well (and been an upgrade) at RG. Has he been better on the opposite side of the line? Udoh has played RG during the Senior Bowl. Was he looked at as an option went Elf and Samia went down?

I don't expect the staff to make any changes unless Dozier goes down

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 6:40:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Dakota Dozier has a 49.7 PFF grade for the season, ranking him 75th out of 83 guards (Samia is 82nd). Can the Vikings at least try a week of Jones and Cleveland at guard?

Eric Thompson on Twitter

Our coaching staff regarding their judgement on G's is brutal.

Samia was the main backup to Dozier and Elf?

I see absolutely no reason why not to try out Collins or Udoh.

Cleveland seemed like a more natural fit at LG. Moving him to the right probably buried him in the depth chart.


They only moved him to LG replace Samia. Did you mean your military right?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 6:42:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Our coaches apparently think Udoh would be our worst possible option to play guard. Based their other decisions on linemen, expect Udoh to be All Pro in the future. He's flashed a lot of ability when given the opportunity to play. I was irritated to see he was inactive this week.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 6:42:55 PM   
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I just don't get it either - regarding G choices. I think Ezra was 3rd string LG during training camp but with injuries has held up very well (and been an upgrade) at RG. Has he been better on the opposite side of the line? Udoh has played RG during the Senior Bowl. Was he looked at as an option went Elf and Samia went down?

I don't expect the staff to make any changes unless Dozier goes down


What's Tonya Harding's availability?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 6:50:40 PM   
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I just don't get it either - regarding G choices. I think Ezra was 3rd string LG during training camp but with injuries has held up very well (and been an upgrade) at RG. Has he been better on the opposite side of the line? Udoh has played RG during the Senior Bowl. Was he looked at as an option went Elf and Samia went down?

I don't expect the staff to make any changes unless Dozier goes down


What's Tonya Harding's availability?

Someone misjudged you Todd. You're not sexist at all. Women can be violent too.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 6:51:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I just don't get it either - regarding G choices. I think Ezra was 3rd string LG during training camp but with injuries has held up very well (and been an upgrade) at RG. Has he been better on the opposite side of the line? Udoh has played RG during the Senior Bowl. Was he looked at as an option went Elf and Samia went down?

I don't expect the staff to make any changes unless Dozier goes down


What's Tonya Harding's availability?

That's funny! An injury is probably the only way some of these guys we want to evaluate see the field.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 7:41:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: odin

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I just don't get it either - regarding G choices. I think Ezra was 3rd string LG during training camp but with injuries has held up very well (and been an upgrade) at RG. Has he been better on the opposite side of the line? Udoh has played RG during the Senior Bowl. Was he looked at as an option went Elf and Samia went down?

I don't expect the staff to make any changes unless Dozier goes down


What's Tonya Harding's availability?

Someone misjudged you Todd. You're not sexist at all. Women can be violent too.

No, he's sexist. The proof is in black and white. He also calls women chicks....in 2020.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 7:48:39 PM  1 votes
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ORIGINAL: odin

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I just don't get it either - regarding G choices. I think Ezra was 3rd string LG during training camp but with injuries has held up very well (and been an upgrade) at RG. Has he been better on the opposite side of the line? Udoh has played RG during the Senior Bowl. Was he looked at as an option went Elf and Samia went down?

I don't expect the staff to make any changes unless Dozier goes down


What's Tonya Harding's availability?

Someone misjudged you Todd. You're not sexist at all. Women can be violent too.

No, he's sexist. The proof is in black and white. He also calls women chicks....in 2020.




A sexist guy on a football talk website. The horror.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 7:52:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: odin

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I just don't get it either - regarding G choices. I think Ezra was 3rd string LG during training camp but with injuries has held up very well (and been an upgrade) at RG. Has he been better on the opposite side of the line? Udoh has played RG during the Senior Bowl. Was he looked at as an option went Elf and Samia went down?

I don't expect the staff to make any changes unless Dozier goes down


What's Tonya Harding's availability?

Someone misjudged you Todd. You're not sexist at all. Women can be violent too.

No, he's sexist. The proof is in black and white. He also calls women chicks....in 2020.




A sexist guy on a football talk website. The horror.

And he's proud of it. Pathetic. Congratulations, you're part of the problem.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 7:54:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: odin

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I just don't get it either - regarding G choices. I think Ezra was 3rd string LG during training camp but with injuries has held up very well (and been an upgrade) at RG. Has he been better on the opposite side of the line? Udoh has played RG during the Senior Bowl. Was he looked at as an option went Elf and Samia went down?

I don't expect the staff to make any changes unless Dozier goes down


What's Tonya Harding's availability?

Someone misjudged you Todd. You're not sexist at all. Women can be violent too.


I'm all about equal opportunity in the traditionally male dominated police baton wielding profession. Even though she didn't actually put the beat down on Nancy Kerrigan, I feel she should have the opportunity. Call it affirmative action if you will.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 7:58:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: odin

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I just don't get it either - regarding G choices. I think Ezra was 3rd string LG during training camp but with injuries has held up very well (and been an upgrade) at RG. Has he been better on the opposite side of the line? Udoh has played RG during the Senior Bowl. Was he looked at as an option went Elf and Samia went down?

I don't expect the staff to make any changes unless Dozier goes down


What's Tonya Harding's availability?

Someone misjudged you Todd. You're not sexist at all. Women can be violent too.

No, he's sexist. The proof is in black and white. He also calls women chicks....in 2020.




A sexist guy on a football talk website. The horror.

And he's proud of it. Pathetic. Congratulations, you're part of the problem.


You're so silly.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 8:32:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: odin

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I just don't get it either - regarding G choices. I think Ezra was 3rd string LG during training camp but with injuries has held up very well (and been an upgrade) at RG. Has he been better on the opposite side of the line? Udoh has played RG during the Senior Bowl. Was he looked at as an option went Elf and Samia went down?

I don't expect the staff to make any changes unless Dozier goes down


What's Tonya Harding's availability?

Someone misjudged you Todd. You're not sexist at all. Women can be violent too.


I'm all about equal opportunity in the traditionally male dominated police baton wielding profession. Even though she didn't actually put the beat down on Nancy Kerrigan, I feel she should have the opportunity. Call it affirmative action if you will.

Always up for a good cat fight

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 9:29:02 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 10:08:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I just don't get it either - regarding G choices. I think Ezra was 3rd string LG during training camp but with injuries has held up very well (and been an upgrade) at RG. Has he been better on the opposite side of the line? Udoh has played RG during the Senior Bowl. Was he looked at as an option went Elf and Samia went down?

I don't expect the staff to make any changes unless Dozier goes down


What's Tonya Harding's availability?

Someone misjudged you Todd. You're not sexist at all. Women can be violent too.


I'm all about equal opportunity in the traditionally male dominated police baton wielding profession. Even though she didn't actually put the beat down on Nancy Kerrigan, I feel she should have the opportunity. Call it affirmative action if you will.

Always up for a good cat fight


Why do I feel like Ben Affleck in "Chasing Amy"?
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 10:10:04 PM  1 votes
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Watching Stefanski's Browns dominate Tennessee on the road brings me back to the Childress/Tomlin situation. Vikings let a young coach go to another team while hanging on to an old, Set-In-His-Ways coach.

Stefanski runs a play at the goal line using an eligible O-Lineman for a TD. Zimmer would never run anything like that.



I guess since we've got the best red zone offense in the league, "Zimmer", calling the plays in the coach's box up in the stands, doesn't feel the need to resort to trickery.

True, but that was not the point of the original post. How convenient of you to cut out the rest so you could start your snarky shit again.


It seemed appropriate to point out your stupid shit again. But in more comedic than snarky way.

No one pisses off posters in here more than you, Mr. Dumbass. You don't even come on these forums to discuss Vikings; you come on here to see what drive by you can do. You think you're a genius and funny, but you're not. It's just so sad you always have to try and bring people down to prop up yourself. Bet you're proud of yourself.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 10:10:26 PM   
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Then I hear people say Robert Saleh is a good young coaching prospect. Sure his defenses are good when he has all pros all over the field and his front 4 can get to the QB. He can't make adjustments nor do his defenses scheme well against good coordinators except for Sean McVay for some reason. Hopefully the rumors are true and the Lions go with Saleh.

You're seeing it tonight, the Bills punted for the first time in the 4th quarter.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 10:13:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I just don't get it either - regarding G choices. I think Ezra was 3rd string LG during training camp but with injuries has held up very well (and been an upgrade) at RG. Has he been better on the opposite side of the line? Udoh has played RG during the Senior Bowl. Was he looked at as an option went Elf and Samia went down?

I don't expect the staff to make any changes unless Dozier goes down


What's Tonya Harding's availability?

Someone misjudged you Todd. You're not sexist at all. Women can be violent too.


I'm all about equal opportunity in the traditionally male dominated police baton wielding profession. Even though she didn't actually put the beat down on Nancy Kerrigan, I feel she should have the opportunity. Call it affirmative action if you will.


This seriously made me LOL, thanks O.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 10:36:18 PM   
Viking Rich

 

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I just don't get it either - regarding G choices. I think Ezra was 3rd string LG during training camp but with injuries has held up very well (and been an upgrade) at RG. Has he been better on the opposite side of the line? Udoh has played RG during the Senior Bowl. Was he looked at as an option went Elf and Samia went down?

I don't expect the staff to make any changes unless Dozier goes down

I was sure Udoh would get more playing time this season after looking like he could hold his own after the Bears game late last season.

But as history has taught us, the Vikings coaching staff will stay with an ineffective player all season on the Oline, until an injury derails them.

Udoh might be one of the best lineman on the team, but we'll never know unless injuries force their hand.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/7/2020 11:28:32 PM   
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I just don't get it either - regarding G choices. I think Ezra was 3rd string LG during training camp but with injuries has held up very well (and been an upgrade) at RG. Has he been better on the opposite side of the line? Udoh has played RG during the Senior Bowl. Was he looked at as an option went Elf and Samia went down?

I don't expect the staff to make any changes unless Dozier goes down

I was sure Udoh would get more playing time this season after looking like he could hold his own after the Bears game late last season.

But as history has taught us, the Vikings coaching staff will stay with an ineffective player all season on the Oline, until an injury derails them.

Udoh might be one of the best lineman on the team, but we'll never know unless injuries force their hand.


What's interesting to me... is in that bears game I thought Udoh held his own and Samia looked exactly like he did this year... some plays decent but equal amount of plays where he totally whiffed.

And yet, Samia gets the opportunity... no Udoh.

They have decided Udoh is a tackle and that is that.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/8/2020 12:03:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

Watching Stefanski's Browns dominate Tennessee on the road brings me back to the Childress/Tomlin situation. Vikings let a young coach go to another team while hanging on to an old, Set-In-His-Ways coach.

Stefanski runs a play at the goal line using an eligible O-Lineman for a TD. Zimmer would never run anything like that.



I guess since we've got the best red zone offense in the league, "Zimmer", calling the plays in the coach's box up in the stands, doesn't feel the need to resort to trickery.

True, but that was not the point of the original post. How convenient of you to cut out the rest so you could start your snarky shit again.


It seemed appropriate to point out your stupid shit again. But in more comedic than snarky way.

No one pisses off posters in here more than you, Mr. Dumbass. You don't even come on these forums to discuss Vikings; you come on here to see what drive by you can do. You think you're a genius and funny, but you're not. It's just so sad you always have to try and bring people down to prop up yourself. Bet you're proud of yourself.

Definition of a True Loser.


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 12/8/2020 1:09:25 AM  1 votes
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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

Watching Stefanski's Browns dominate Tennessee on the road brings me back to the Childress/Tomlin situation. Vikings let a young coach go to another team while hanging on to an old, Set-In-His-Ways coach.

Stefanski runs a play at the goal line using an eligible O-Lineman for a TD. Zimmer would never run anything like that.



I guess since we've got the best red zone offense in the league, "Zimmer", calling the plays in the coach's box up in the stands, doesn't feel the need to resort to trickery.

True, but that was not the point of the original post. How convenient of you to cut out the rest so you could start your snarky shit again.


It seemed appropriate to point out your stupid shit again. But in more comedic than snarky way.

No one pisses off posters in here more than you, Mr. Dumbass. You don't even come on these forums to discuss Vikings; you come on here to see what drive by you can do. You think you're a genius and funny, but you're not. It's just so sad you always have to try and bring people down to prop up yourself. Bet you're proud of yourself.

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