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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

The good thing is Lance only played one game this year----might help him drop to us.

Might have to hold onto Barr for another year & they picked up a ton of defense last draft.

I actually think Lance will still be there for our first pick

Great.

Then I'll have one more thing to be pissed about when we draft a defensive player instead of him.

Same thought
It's more of a "hope" than a fact
But I do think Trey's rep is much larger in our region, than other areas.
He might be a guy who just sits in the waiting room awhile.

As much as its absolutely the right move, I don't see us drafting a QB.

I think Spielman and Zimmer know they're on thin ice and they're going to draft for 2021 and not beyond.

Its not like we have forward thinkers in the organization as it is...

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

The bar has become any thing but.... insert player here..

Rudolf , cousins, elfline, samia, Wilson, etc

That’s what it comes down to when your GM can’t find a good player or commits huge money to the last yeArs of a career.

Our cap he’ll is directly on the GM and his blackmail pictures on the ownership.

We have become used to it.

So all we want is better than.

Childress started it.

I bought into it @ Fraiser.

I was on board with Zimmer in the beginning, but his lack of evolution into a multi- dementional coach and his cronyism with assistant dinosaurs and their off spring, has got me sawing off the wheels of the bandwagon.

It doesn’t help that bitterness and other issues color my world.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

The bar has become any thing but.... insert player here..

Rudolf , cousins, elfline, samia, Wilson, etc

That’s what it comes down to when your GM can’t find a good player or commits huge money to the last yeArs of a career.

Our cap he’ll is directly on the GM and his blackmail pictures on the ownership.

We have become used to it.

So all we want is better than.

Childress started it.

I bought into it @ Fraiser.

I was on board with Zimmer in the beginning, but his lack of evolution into a multi- dementional coach and his cronyism with assistant dinosaurs and their off spring, has got me sawing off the wheels of the bandwagon.

It doesn’t help that bitterness and other issues color my world.

I don't know about evolving into it, but I'm certain many here consider Zimmer to be a multi-dementional coach.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

The bar has become any thing but.... insert player here..

Rudolf , cousins, elfline, samia, Wilson, etc

That’s what it comes down to when your GM can’t find a good player or commits huge money to the last yeArs of a career.

Our cap he’ll is directly on the GM and his blackmail pictures on the ownership.

We have become used to it.

So all we want is better than.

Childress started it.

I bought into it @ Fraiser.

I was on board with Zimmer in the beginning, but his lack of evolution into a multi- dementional coach and his cronyism with assistant dinosaurs and their off spring, has got me sawing off the wheels of the bandwagon.

It doesn’t help that bitterness and other issues color my world.

I don't know about evolving into it, but I'm certain many here consider Zimmer to be a multi-dementional coach.

Nice one!!!!

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Minnesota Vikings:
The #Vikings have signed G Kyle Hinton (@BigMyke_Hinton) to the active roster and placed TE Kyle Rudolph on IR.

Sam Ekstrom:
Perhaps an opportunity on Sunday to see Hinton at left guard for some or all of the game.

As for Kyle Rudolph, he'll end up missing the final four games of the season.

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Lesson learned? Stefon Diggs’ unhappiness with Vikings, and success in Buffalo, is cautionary tale

https://www.skornorth.com/lesson-learned-stefon-diggs-unhappiness-with-vikings-and-success-in-buffalo-is-cautionary-tale/

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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Zimmer: 7 seasons. 3 Playoff appearances.

Childress: 4 seasons. 2 Playoff appearances.

(Denny made the Playoffs 8 times in 9 years in comparison)

Zimmer playoff record: 2-3

Childress playoff record: 1-2

Green playoff record: 4-8

But we love Zimmer because he's a 'tough guy'.

Would you rather have Matt Patricia? Had a couple of snake bites in there too (Seattle FG miss game). You find me a Lombardi out there an I am game for firing Zimmer.....but if we get Steckle.

The one thing that Zimmer hasn't received is the QB play but most of it is due to injury......

No, people don't love Zimmer because of that---he can coach defense but he hasn't got the QB yet, Cousins has probably been the best QB we have had....

Yes I want Patricia or possibly Steckle. That's what you got from my post?

Waiting on what coach you think is out there....or do you just want him fired.

Same with Cousins....need a better one before you get rid of him.

Well I began the day by posting about the packers finally dumping McCarthy after many many seasons of not living up to expectations. Somehow they managed to find a good coach. I heard it was down to Matt LeFluer, Matt Patricia, and Les Steckel in the final interviews.

I meant it in a way that (those Assistants look awesome) and they turn into Seckel and Patricia.

Should have kept Stepanski. We had our own young head coach.

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

The good thing is Lance only played one game this year----might help him drop to us.

Might have to hold onto Barr for another year & they picked up a ton of defense last draft.

I actually think Lance will still be there for our first pick

Great.

Then I'll have one more thing to be pissed about when we draft a defensive player instead of him.

Same thought
It's more of a "hope" than a fact
But I do think Trey's rep is much larger in our region, than other areas.
He might be a guy who just sits in the waiting room awhile.

As much as its absolutely the right move, I don't see us drafting a QB.

I think Spielman and Zimmer know they're on thin ice and they're going to draft for 2021 and not beyond.

Its not like we have forward thinkers in the organization as it is...

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I agree good discussion on coaching candidates.

It's neither here nor there – Zimmer will be our coach next year, Spielman our GM. Cousins our QB.

Doesn't hurt to fantasize though. I wish it were not so, I guess we'll find out for sure pretty quickly after next Sunday.

I fully expect a press conference with Mark Wilf talking about how crazy 2020 was and their confidence in the pieces in place, etc. (Deep down, I'm sure the owners are thinking 'playoffs in 2015, 2017, 2019 ... so 2021 is destined for a return to the playoffs ... that's one more year of not having to make the hard decision in public').

I think the Wilfs have been great owners in terms of providing the franchise with whatever resources / facilities it needs (and then some) ... they seem pretty hands off in the actual shaping of the team.

.........

Like the owners, I really believe Spielman and Zimmer will have the team in contention again next year. I think we underestimate just how exceptionally 'barely good enough' they are at putting together playoff contending teams.

Unlike the owners, I recognize that returning to the playoffs in 2021 only means an abysmal, demoralizing loss (in the playoffs) to a team with a smarter coach, an nfl caliber OL, and a QB with some big game cajones – and that the playoff loss is really just the start of another miserable cycle with this regime, not a reason to raise expectations for the following season.

Enough.

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I agree good discussion on coaching candidates.

It's neither here nor there – Zimmer will be our coach next year, Spielman our GM. Cousins our QB.

Doesn't hurt to fantasize though. I wish it were not so, I guess we'll find out for sure pretty quickly after next Sunday.

I fully expect a press conference with Mark Wilf talking about how crazy 2020 was and their confidence in the pieces in place, etc. (Deep down, I'm sure the owners are thinking 'playoffs in 2015, 2017, 2019 ... so 2021 is destined for a return to the playoffs ... that's one more year of not having to make the hard decision in public').

I think the Wilfs have been great owners in terms of providing the franchise with whatever resources / facilities it needs (and then some) ... they seem pretty hands off in the actual shaping of the team.

.........

Like the owners, I really believe Spielman and Zimmer will have the team in contention again next year. I think we underestimate just how exceptionally 'barely good enough' they are at putting together playoff contending teams.

Unlike the owners, I recognize that returning to the playoffs in 2021 only means an abysmal, demoralizing loss (in the playoffs) to a team with a smarter coach, an nfl caliber OL, and a QB with some big game cajones – and that the playoff loss is really just the start of another miserable cycle with this regime, not a reason to raise expectations for the following season.

Enough.

Spot on post. We're also stuck with Barr, who's a good player but wildly overpaid for his production. With the obvious cuts that are coming due to cap space, coupled with the obvious needs of the team, RS pretty much has no choice but to draft/sign players that we've been clamoring for for years.

Out:
Reiff
Rudy
Harris
Stephen (possibly)
Smith - reworked contract
Barr - reworked contract

Must haves:
2 OG
1 3T DT
1 S
1 QBOTF
Depth everywhere

Will he actually do such a good enough job that we don't crash and burn in the playoffs (again)? Hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes...

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ORIGINAL: paulgly

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I agree good discussion on coaching candidates.

It's neither here nor there – Zimmer will be our coach next year, Spielman our GM. Cousins our QB.

Doesn't hurt to fantasize though. I wish it were not so, I guess we'll find out for sure pretty quickly after next Sunday.

I fully expect a press conference with Mark Wilf talking about how crazy 2020 was and their confidence in the pieces in place, etc. (Deep down, I'm sure the owners are thinking 'playoffs in 2015, 2017, 2019 ... so 2021 is destined for a return to the playoffs ... that's one more year of not having to make the hard decision in public').

I think the Wilfs have been great owners in terms of providing the franchise with whatever resources / facilities it needs (and then some) ... they seem pretty hands off in the actual shaping of the team.

.........

Like the owners, I really believe Spielman and Zimmer will have the team in contention again next year. I think we underestimate just how exceptionally 'barely good enough' they are at putting together playoff contending teams.

Unlike the owners, I recognize that returning to the playoffs in 2021 only means an abysmal, demoralizing loss (in the playoffs) to a team with a smarter coach, an nfl caliber OL, and a QB with some big game cajones – and that the playoff loss is really just the start of another miserable cycle with this regime, not a reason to raise expectations for the following season.

Enough.

Spot on post. We're also stuck with Barr, who's a good player but wildly overpaid for his production. With the obvious cuts that are coming due to cap space, coupled with the obvious needs of the team, RS pretty much has no choice but to draft/sign players that we've been clamoring for for years.

Out:
Reiff
Rudy
Harris
Stephen (possibly)
Smith - reworked contract
Barr - reworked contract

Must haves:
2 OG
1 3T DT
1 S
1 QBOTF
Depth everywhere

Will he actually do such a good enough job that we don't crash and burn in the playoffs (again)? Hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes...

If we cut Reiff - and that very well could be the right move - add LT to that must have list. At worst, Reiff was an average LT this year, and might have been better. It's a pretty bit leap to think Cleveland (or whoever else) will slide right in and equal his production.

Similar to Mackensie, Trae, Everson, and Linval last year. Likely was the right move to not pay any of them huge money (although I think Zim burned bridges with Mac by playing him in meaningless game 17 where he got hurt), but I always cringed when people were like 'good riddance'. It isn't easy to just draft or get free agents to replace even average production. We may find the same when we (rightfully) don't sign Harris. That said, I don't think we miss Rudolph. Good dude - his production is pretty easily replaced IMO.

I'm afraid we're really gonna miss Reiff...

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Losing Mac on such a cheap contract

I think Ezra's done very well switching sides and playing a new position. He has troubles with bull rushers, it seems a move to T would improve his play. Add in another year of weight training and a chance to continue to improve his technique, and I think he could do quite well.

I'd go Ezra, Dozier, Bradbury, Udoh, ONeil this Sunday.

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

I agree good discussion on coaching candidates.

It's neither here nor there – Zimmer will be our coach next year, Spielman our GM. Cousins our QB.

Doesn't hurt to fantasize though. I wish it were not so, I guess we'll find out for sure pretty quickly after next Sunday.

I fully expect a press conference with Mark Wilf talking about how crazy 2020 was and their confidence in the pieces in place, etc. (Deep down, I'm sure the owners are thinking 'playoffs in 2015, 2017, 2019 ... so 2021 is destined for a return to the playoffs ... that's one more year of not having to make the hard decision in public').

I think the Wilfs have been great owners in terms of providing the franchise with whatever resources / facilities it needs (and then some) ... they seem pretty hands off in the actual shaping of the team.

.........

Like the owners, I really believe Spielman and Zimmer will have the team in contention again next year. I think we underestimate just how exceptionally 'barely good enough' they are at putting together playoff contending teams.

Unlike the owners, I recognize that returning to the playoffs in 2021 only means an abysmal, demoralizing loss (in the playoffs) to a team with a smarter coach, an nfl caliber OL, and a QB with some big game cajones – and that the playoff loss is really just the start of another miserable cycle with this regime, not a reason to raise expectations for the following season.

Enough.

Spot on post. We're also stuck with Barr, who's a good player but wildly overpaid for his production. With the obvious cuts that are coming due to cap space, coupled with the obvious needs of the team, RS pretty much has no choice but to draft/sign players that we've been clamoring for for years.

Out:
Reiff
Rudy
Harris
Stephen (possibly)
Smith - reworked contract
Barr - reworked contract

Must haves:
2 OG
1 3T DT
1 S
1 QBOTF
Depth everywhere

Will he actually do such a good enough job that we don't crash and burn in the playoffs (again)? Hey, even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes...

If we cut Reiff - and that very well could be the right move - add LT to that must have list. At worst, Reiff was an average LT this year, and might have been better. It's a pretty bit leap to think Cleveland (or whoever else) will slide right in and equal his production.

Similar to Mackensie, Trae, Everson, and Linval last year. Likely was the right move to not pay any of them huge money (although I think Zim burned bridges with Mac by playing him in meaningless game 17 where he got hurt), but I always cringed when people were like 'good riddance'. It isn't easy to just draft or get free agents to replace even average production. We may find the same when we (rightfully) don't sign Harris. That said, I don't think we miss Rudolph. Good dude - his production is pretty easily replaced IMO.

I'm afraid we're really gonna miss Reiff...

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ORIGINAL: The Happy Norseman

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ORIGINAL: Pager

Losing Mac on such a cheap contract

I think Ezra's done very well switching sides and playing a new position. He has troubles with bull rushers, it seems a move to T would improve his play. Add in another year of weight training and a chance to continue to improve his technique, and I think he could do quite well.

I'd go Ezra, Dozier, Bradbury, Udoh, ONeil this Sunday.

+1

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Paul Charchian
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Alexander Mattison is the presumed starter if he can clear the concussion protocol. Ameer Abdullah and Mike Boone will likely get into the mix one way or another. Prefer Boone if Mattison can't go.
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Courtney Cronin
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Per source, Dalvin Cook had an unexpected family emergency come up on Tuesday and had to return to Miami. He will be unavailable to play in Sunday's finale vs. Detroit.