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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/23/2020 8:30:21 PM  1 votes
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Only in the last couple of weeks. If you look at cases per million from the outset, the EU response has outperformed the US response by an embarrassing margin. During the summer the US was never below 70 cases per million with a peak at 200 per million. Meanwhile the EU was around 25. They had a recent spike and passed the US. History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/20/covid-is-accelerating-across-the-globe-as-us-and-europe-head-into-flu-season.html


"History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will." Via another economic shutdown. We're happy for them.

What's a couple hundred thousand deaths as long as the Dow is up.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/23/2020 8:57:30 PM   
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Only in the last couple of weeks. If you look at cases per million from the outset, the EU response has outperformed the US response by an embarrassing margin. During the summer the US was never below 70 cases per million with a peak at 200 per million. Meanwhile the EU was around 25. They had a recent spike and passed the US. History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/20/covid-is-accelerating-across-the-globe-as-us-and-europe-head-into-flu-season.html


"History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will." Via another economic shutdown. We're happy for them.

What's a couple hundred thousand deaths as long as the Dow is up.

Who has said the economic shutdowns do more damage than good
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/23/2020 9:02:57 PM   
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Only in the last couple of weeks. If you look at cases per million from the outset, the EU response has outperformed the US response by an embarrassing margin. During the summer the US was never below 70 cases per million with a peak at 200 per million. Meanwhile the EU was around 25. They had a recent spike and passed the US. History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/20/covid-is-accelerating-across-the-globe-as-us-and-europe-head-into-flu-season.html

We are spiking ourselves, and could end up even worse.
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/23/2020 9:04:21 PM   
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Only in the last couple of weeks. If you look at cases per million from the outset, the EU response has outperformed the US response by an embarrassing margin. During the summer the US was never below 70 cases per million with a peak at 200 per million. Meanwhile the EU was around 25. They had a recent spike and passed the US. History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/20/covid-is-accelerating-across-the-globe-as-us-and-europe-head-into-flu-season.html


"History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will." Via another economic shutdown. We're happy for them.

What's a couple hundred thousand deaths as long as the Dow is up.

Who has said the economic shutdowns do more damage than good

Anything to justify your vote for Orange Death, I guess....
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/23/2020 9:39:48 PM   
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Only in the last couple of weeks. If you look at cases per million from the outset, the EU response has outperformed the US response by an embarrassing margin. During the summer the US was never below 70 cases per million with a peak at 200 per million. Meanwhile the EU was around 25. They had a recent spike and passed the US. History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/20/covid-is-accelerating-across-the-globe-as-us-and-europe-head-into-flu-season.html


"History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will." Via another economic shutdown. We're happy for them.

What's a couple hundred thousand deaths as long as the Dow is up.


More like as long as it's up A LOT. Being up just a nice amount over time isn't enough. Max it out!!! To hell with the people!

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/23/2020 11:22:03 PM  1 votes
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Wisconsin has entered the fray. We now have a top 17 most infected states in the country all voted Trump in 2016.

1. North Dakota
2. South Dakota
3. Louisiana
4. Mississippi
5. Alabama
6. Florida
7. Iowa
8. Tennessee
9. Arkansas
10. Georgia
11. South Carolina
12. Arizona
13. Nebraska
14. Texas
15. Wisconsin
16. Utah
17. Idaho

From Brad's list the other day, but with bolding for the states on the list that don't have a mask mandate of any kind. Not surprising, but at least they've owned the libtards. Only Alaska and Wyoming lack a mandate but don't appear on this list, as of the other day.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/24/2020 5:40:05 AM   
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The latest list of most infected states:

1. North Dakota (4.71%)
2. South Dakota (4.21%)
3. Louisiana (3.85%
4. Mississippi (3.83%
5. Alabama (3.69%)
6. Iowa (3.61%
7. Florida (3.59%)
8. Tennessee (3.54%)
9. Arkansas (3.45%)
10. Georgia (3.28%)
11. South Carolina (3.27%)
12. Wisconsin (3.27%)
13. Arizona (3.24%)
14. Nebraska (3.23%)
15. Idaho (3.23%)
16. Utah (3.17%)
17. Texas (3.15%)

Just to put things into perspective, one in every 21.25 people in North Dakota are either infected or have been infected by the virus. North Dakota has tested approximately 36.7% of its population and has a positivity rate of 9.8%.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/24/2020 9:17:46 AM  3 votes
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The latest list of most infected states:

1. North Dakota (4.71%)
2. South Dakota (4.21%)
3. Louisiana (3.85%
4. Mississippi (3.83%
5. Alabama (3.69%)
6. Iowa (3.61%
7. Florida (3.59%)
8. Tennessee (3.54%)
9. Arkansas (3.45%)
10. Georgia (3.28%)
11. South Carolina (3.27%)
12. Wisconsin (3.27%)
13. Arizona (3.24%)
14. Nebraska (3.23%)
15. Idaho (3.23%)
16. Utah (3.17%)
17. Texas (3.15%)

Just to put things into perspective, one in every 21.25 people in North Dakota are either infected or have been infected by the virus. North Dakota has tested approximately 36.7% of its population and has a positivity rate of 9.8%.

The overlay is still intact between states that have some kind of mask mandate and those most infected. Masks, wide-spread testing, rigorous contact tracing. If you won't get behind that minimal effort, you can't can't say you're "pro-life" or that you care about other people. You just can't. Remember how exorcised the right was about the Death Panels supposedly coming with Obamacare? "Yeah, Grandma, new instructions from Fox: You're dead. Sorry. Have a blessed afterlife. Say hi to Grandpa and Hitler."
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 9:55:53 AM   
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Only in the last couple of weeks. If you look at cases per million from the outset, the EU response has outperformed the US response by an embarrassing margin. During the summer the US was never below 70 cases per million with a peak at 200 per million. Meanwhile the EU was around 25. They had a recent spike and passed the US. History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/20/covid-is-accelerating-across-the-globe-as-us-and-europe-head-into-flu-season.html


"History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will." Via another economic shutdown. We're happy for them.

What's a couple hundred thousand deaths as long as the Dow is up.

Who has said the economic shutdowns do more damage than good

Anything to justify your vote for Orange Death, I guess....


They also pad the COVID deaths to justify voting for the other guy too...so there is that.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 10:08:29 AM   
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By what amount are the numbers padded?

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 10:09:06 AM   
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No they don't. In fact most evidence indicates that deaths related to COVID are under reported, not over reported.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 10:11:10 AM   
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By what amount are the numbers padded?

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 10:24:35 AM  1 votes
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Only in the last couple of weeks. If you look at cases per million from the outset, the EU response has outperformed the US response by an embarrassing margin. During the summer the US was never below 70 cases per million with a peak at 200 per million. Meanwhile the EU was around 25. They had a recent spike and passed the US. History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/20/covid-is-accelerating-across-the-globe-as-us-and-europe-head-into-flu-season.html


"History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will." Via another economic shutdown. We're happy for them.

What's a couple hundred thousand deaths as long as the Dow is up.

Who has said the economic shutdowns do more damage than good

Anything to justify your vote for Orange Death, I guess....


They also pad the COVID deaths to justify voting for the other guy too...so there is that.

So "they" did that?

So it's "only" 200,000 deaths, or some other extremely reasonable number?

Orange death and his minions told us over the weekend that they're not even trying to control the spread. They "suggest" mask usage at the rallies, but don't want to say anything from the stage because that would be impinging on the cult members' freedoms.

In the meantime, we're all "free" to die, endure permanent organ damage, or, surprise, just silently kill those unfortunate to come into contact with an asymptomatic spreader.
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 10:59:06 AM   
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Only in the last couple of weeks. If you look at cases per million from the outset, the EU response has outperformed the US response by an embarrassing margin. During the summer the US was never below 70 cases per million with a peak at 200 per million. Meanwhile the EU was around 25. They had a recent spike and passed the US. History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/20/covid-is-accelerating-across-the-globe-as-us-and-europe-head-into-flu-season.html


"History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will." Via another economic shutdown. We're happy for them.

What's a couple hundred thousand deaths as long as the Dow is up.

Who has said the economic shutdowns do more damage than good

Anything to justify your vote for Orange Death, I guess....


They also pad the COVID deaths to justify voting for the other guy too...so there is that.



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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 11:05:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Only in the last couple of weeks. If you look at cases per million from the outset, the EU response has outperformed the US response by an embarrassing margin. During the summer the US was never below 70 cases per million with a peak at 200 per million. Meanwhile the EU was around 25. They had a recent spike and passed the US. History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/20/covid-is-accelerating-across-the-globe-as-us-and-europe-head-into-flu-season.html


"History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will." Via another economic shutdown. We're happy for them.

What's a couple hundred thousand deaths as long as the Dow is up.

Who has said the economic shutdowns do more damage than good

Anything to justify your vote for Orange Death, I guess....


They also pad the COVID deaths to justify voting for the other guy too...so there is that.

So "they" did that?

So it's "only" 200,000 deaths, or some other extremely reasonable number?

Orange death and his minions told us over the weekend that they're not even trying to control the spread. They "suggest" mask usage at the rallies, but don't want to say anything from the stage because that would be impinging on the cult members' freedoms.

In the meantime, we're all "free" to die, endure permanent organ damage, or, surprise, just silently kill those unfortunate to come into contact with an asymptomatic spreader.


So lets start with Orange Death....what would you do with it and how do you report the deaths Cuomo created by forcing people into Nursing Homes...still wondering how you blame those tens of thousands in NY on Trump. Also it is a known fact that the accuracy on COVID test still is 70% at best. SO there are a ton of false positives and the reverse.

Also lets add in a 90 year old with 10 other problems and assigning it to COVID.

Please and CMON on the politicizing on this topic.....

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 11:20:27 AM   
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If a 104 year old with cancer, AIDS, diabetes, congenital heart disease, and diarrhea crashes his car and dies on his way to his dialysis appointment guess what the cause of death is - car crash.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 11:22:12 AM   
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Only in the last couple of weeks. If you look at cases per million from the outset, the EU response has outperformed the US response by an embarrassing margin. During the summer the US was never below 70 cases per million with a peak at 200 per million. Meanwhile the EU was around 25. They had a recent spike and passed the US. History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/20/covid-is-accelerating-across-the-globe-as-us-and-europe-head-into-flu-season.html


"History dictates they will get it under control faster than we will." Via another economic shutdown. We're happy for them.

What's a couple hundred thousand deaths as long as the Dow is up.

Who has said the economic shutdowns do more damage than good

Anything to justify your vote for Orange Death, I guess....


They also pad the COVID deaths to justify voting for the other guy too...so there is that.

So "they" did that?

So it's "only" 200,000 deaths, or some other extremely reasonable number?

Orange death and his minions told us over the weekend that they're not even trying to control the spread. They "suggest" mask usage at the rallies, but don't want to say anything from the stage because that would be impinging on the cult members' freedoms.

In the meantime, we're all "free" to die, endure permanent organ damage, or, surprise, just silently kill those unfortunate to come into contact with an asymptomatic spreader.


So lets start with Orange Death....what would you do with it and how do you report the deaths Cuomo created by forcing people into Nursing Homes...still wondering how you blame those tens of thousands in NY on Trump.


From Politifact:

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In a tweet, the HHS assistant secretary for public affairs said that New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo “forced” nursing homes across the state to admit COVID-positive patients and that this policy fueled the spread of COVID-19 that led to thousands of deaths in the nursing home population.

Although nursing homes felt pressure to accept COVID-positive patients, they were not actually forced to do so. State regulations require nursing homes to accept patients only if they can care for them, and they could have refused them on those grounds.

In addition, it’s unclear the extent to which the governor’s policy was responsible for nursing home COVID-19 deaths. Infection control is a long-standing problem in nursing homes, predating the pandemic, and a report showed peak numbers of nursing home deaths came prior to the peak influx of patients as a result of Cuomo’s advisory. While the introduction of COVID-19 positive patients into nursing homes no doubt had an effect on infection spread, Caputo’s statement suggests it was solely responsible. That’s not what the evidence shows.

We rate this Mostly False.


Your attempt to create a false equivalency doesn't work. And, as has been thoroughly proven, Cuomo made early mistakes, learned from them and adapted and improved his strategies. Meanwhile, the Orange Death doubled down on stupid.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 11:52:27 AM   
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Stop politicizing this!! But also...don't wear a mask at rallies because Orange Death and team say you don't have to. I'm not a sheep! Freedom and such. If some weak, old people have to die, so be it. And if some of these very fine militia people are listening, liberate Michigan! I'm not saying you should kidnap the governor, but I'm sure not saying you shouldn't!!
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 1:17:18 PM   
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Stop politicizing this!! But also...don't wear a mask at rallies because Orange Death and team say you don't have to. I'm not a sheep! Freedom and such. If some weak, old people have to die, so be it. And if some of these very fine militia people are listening, liberate Michigan! I'm not saying you should kidnap the governor, but I'm sure not saying you shouldn't!!


So you think that it is only Conservatives that aren't wearing masks? Does that follow your only Conservatives are racist too theory? Can we get a Biden Cmon on that?

Also those Democratic Governors want you to blame Trump for putting those people at risks in Nursing Homes (and you are doing it)....

Yes they are politicizing the hell out of this.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 1:23:39 PM   
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Shovel, Phil.. Phil, shovel... oh btw, shovel has a friend he would like you to introduce to your BFF, hole.

His name is ladder...



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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 1:28:36 PM   
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Shovel, Phil.. Phil, shovel... oh btw, shovel has a friend he would like you to introduce to your BFF, hole.

His name is ladder...




Just seeing how far you are up the Democratic Party's ass....it is apparent. MSNBC followers. Rachel says go and you ask how far.

Not all of these deaths are the fault of Trump...lets be real. Not only Republicans aren't wearing masks. Not only Republicans are racists.

Fauci was on TV recently and he expects there to be a vaccine by the end of November beginning of December. 1 million doses. Who is going to claim that victory? I say all of America but both sides will be running to the podium.

Sometimes Dan you have to see the shit to shovel it....first step. I see the shit from both sides. I don't think you do.

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 1:34:00 PM   
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I’ve never watched MSNBC or Rachel (I assume maddow). What do they say so I know how I should think?

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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 1:36:46 PM   
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Stop politicizing this!! But also...don't wear a mask at rallies because Orange Death and team say you don't have to. I'm not a sheep! Freedom and such. If some weak, old people have to die, so be it. And if some of these very fine militia people are listening, liberate Michigan! I'm not saying you should kidnap the governor, but I'm sure not saying you shouldn't!!


So you think that it is only Conservatives that aren't wearing masks? Does that follow your only Conservatives are racist too theory? Can we get a Biden Cmon on that?

Also those Democratic Governors want you to blame Trump for putting those people at risks in Nursing Homes (and you are doing it)....

Yes they are politicizing the hell out of this.


In general terms, yes.
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 1:45:34 PM   
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Phil, if you can't see who the majority of anti-maskers align with, I can't help you at this point.
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RE: Covid 19 and those infected - 10/26/2020 1:52:16 PM   
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Phil, if you can't see who the majority of anti-maskers align with, I can't help you at this point.


I am conservative...I wear a mask. I am in a conservative area....all are wearing masks. I can't help your misguided viewpoint, sorry.

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