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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

NFL GM's with longest tenures...

A couple are owners so you can't count those.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/05/longest-tenured-gms-in-the-nfl

I think Spielman is the only one in the top 10 who doesn't have at least one Superbowl appearance.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

I disagree on Spielman not taking a QB.
I do not think Lance falls to the Vikings, however, I would expect us to take him if he did fall or even trade up a couple spots for him.
I think Zimmer and Spielman would both be ok with that. Spielman is well regarded and hopefully has the confidence to look at the future of the team.

I would hope that they both have the confidence to realize short sighted thinking is the the quickest way to end up getting replaced. A young QB on a rookie contract may be the best way to get the salary cap in shape for another run.
Lance could fall for a number of reasons but not to 14. If he makes it to around 10, I would not be at all surprised to see us try to go get him. For the team it is the right thing to do. If the FO doesn't have any confidence in their ability and security with the organization, they are already done.

If it happens, do you start him? I do.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

I disagree on Spielman not taking a QB.
I do not think Lance falls to the Vikings, however, I would expect us to take him if he did fall or even trade up a couple spots for him.
I think Zimmer and Spielman would both be ok with that. Spielman is well regarded and hopefully has the confidence to look at the future of the team.

I would hope that they both have the confidence to realize short sighted thinking is the the quickest way to end up getting replaced. A young QB on a rookie contract may be the best way to get the salary cap in shape for another run.
Lance could fall for a number of reasons but not to 14. If he makes it to around 10, I would not be at all surprised to see us try to go get him. For the team it is the right thing to do. If the FO doesn't have any confidence in their ability and security with the organization, they are already done.

If it happens, do you start him? I do.

Who do you start after he's mauled by opposing DLs for the first six weeks and then his leg snaps in half?

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

I disagree on Spielman not taking a QB.
I do not think Lance falls to the Vikings, however, I would expect us to take him if he did fall or even trade up a couple spots for him.
I think Zimmer and Spielman would both be ok with that. Spielman is well regarded and hopefully has the confidence to look at the future of the team.

I would hope that they both have the confidence to realize short sighted thinking is the the quickest way to end up getting replaced. A young QB on a rookie contract may be the best way to get the salary cap in shape for another run.
Lance could fall for a number of reasons but not to 14. If he makes it to around 10, I would not be at all surprised to see us try to go get him. For the team it is the right thing to do. If the FO doesn't have any confidence in their ability and security with the organization, they are already done.

If it happens, do you start him? I do.

Who do you start after he's mauled by opposing DLs for the first six weeks and then his leg snaps in half?

Something tells me the offensive line would improve dramatically with the kid back there because, unlike Cousins, he doesn't run like a glacier.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I would not take the Alabama QB at #14. I would be inclined to take any of the others unless I got a serious offer from a team behind us.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

I disagree on Spielman not taking a QB.
I do not think Lance falls to the Vikings, however, I would expect us to take him if he did fall or even trade up a couple spots for him.
I think Zimmer and Spielman would both be ok with that. Spielman is well regarded and hopefully has the confidence to look at the future of the team.

I would hope that they both have the confidence to realize short sighted thinking is the the quickest way to end up getting replaced. A young QB on a rookie contract may be the best way to get the salary cap in shape for another run.
Lance could fall for a number of reasons but not to 14. If he makes it to around 10, I would not be at all surprised to see us try to go get him. For the team it is the right thing to do. If the FO doesn't have any confidence in their ability and security with the organization, they are already done.

If it happens, do you start him? I do.

Who do you start after he's mauled by opposing DLs for the first six weeks and then his leg snaps in half?

Something tells me the offensive line would improve dramatically with the kid back there because, unlike Cousins, he doesn't run like a glacier.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

I disagree on Spielman not taking a QB.
I do not think Lance falls to the Vikings, however, I would expect us to take him if he did fall or even trade up a couple spots for him.
I think Zimmer and Spielman would both be ok with that. Spielman is well regarded and hopefully has the confidence to look at the future of the team.

I would hope that they both have the confidence to realize short sighted thinking is the the quickest way to end up getting replaced. A young QB on a rookie contract may be the best way to get the salary cap in shape for another run.
Lance could fall for a number of reasons but not to 14. If he makes it to around 10, I would not be at all surprised to see us try to go get him. For the team it is the right thing to do. If the FO doesn't have any confidence in their ability and security with the organization, they are already done.

If it happens, do you start him? I do.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

He may not be skinny enough but otherwise OT Carson Green Texas A&M has our draft interest. (Cameron Sample simply doesn't have the Edge traits we're looking for)

https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/1384898916345384960

Yeah, might want to see who wrote OT. Because in that video, the OT is a cripple.

Sloth-like in space
Has zero hip swivel
May work best on senior home dance floor
Sets in pass rush like Godzilla
Lunges like starving man seeing a pizza
Braces actually add speed

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

He may not be skinny enough but otherwise OT Carson Green Texas A&M has our draft interest. (Cameron Sample simply doesn't have the Edge traits we're looking for)

https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/1384898916345384960

Yeah, might want to see who wrote OT. Because in that video, the OT is a cripple.

Sloth-like in space
Has zero hip swivel
May work best on senior home dance floor
Sets in pass rush like Godzilla
Lunges like starving man seeing a pizza
Braces actually add speed

Um ... you are kinda getting this down to a science lol

Are you going to be able to back out of this draftnik speak after draft season?

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Kirk Cousins is guaranteed $45M in 2022...not next year, 2022. The Vikings aren't taking a QB at 14.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

A lot depends on how this upcoming season goes but my guess if Spielman and Zim are still in charge they will extend Cousins again after this season to soften the 45ml cap hit for 2022. Kicking the can further down the road.

Not trying to be the bearer of bad news but Cousins could be our qb for a long time.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Kirk Cousins is guaranteed $45M in 2022...not next year, 2022. The Vikings aren't taking a QB at 14.

Next year is 2022.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I would never fault any GM for taking a swing at who they believe is a QBOTF. I would fire him if he fails more than once. But I would have no issue with a QB being drafted.

Regardless of who is drafted, it would be foolish to play him. Cousins and the team is playing well, you don't put in your rookie QB. Team falling apart, the oline is part of the reason. Why rush him out there?

Only situation I consider it - .500 team at the midpoint, oline is playing much improved (from 28th in pass blocking to 15th) and you think the rook gives you a shot a playoffs. That's it.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I would never fault any GM for taking a swing at who they believe is a QBOTF. I would fire him if he fails more than once. But I would have no issue with a QB being drafted.

Regardless of who is drafted, it would be foolish to play him. Cousins and the team is playing well, you don't put in your rookie QB. Team falling apart, the oline is part of the reason. Why rush him out there?

Only situation I consider it - .500 team at the midpoint, oline is playing much improved (from 28th in pass blocking to 15th) and you think the rook gives you a shot a playoffs. That's it.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I would never fault any GM for taking a swing at who they believe is a QBOTF. I would fire him if he fails more than once. But I would have no issue with a QB being drafted.

Regardless of who is drafted, it would be foolish to play him. Cousins and the team is playing well, you don't put in your rookie QB. Team falling apart, the oline is part of the reason. Why rush him out there?

Only situation I consider it - .500 team at the midpoint, oline is playing much improved (from 28th in pass blocking to 15th) and you think the rook gives you a shot a playoffs. That's it.

I wouldn't fire him for taking the QB, I'd fire him for managing the team the way he has to keep it on a treadmill of mediocrity and then knocking us off the treadmill at full price. If this is what you want to do, don't pay big money to people like Barr, Rudy, Reiff, et al for the past few years. Throw your cards in and draw a new hand if that's what you're doing.

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ORIGINAL: Pager

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: Pager

I would never fault any GM for taking a swing at who they believe is a QBOTF. I would fire him if he fails more than once. But I would have no issue with a QB being drafted.

Regardless of who is drafted, it would be foolish to play him. Cousins and the team is playing well, you don't put in your rookie QB. Team falling apart, the oline is part of the reason. Why rush him out there?

Only situation I consider it - .500 team at the midpoint, oline is playing much improved (from 28th in pass blocking to 15th) and you think the rook gives you a shot a playoffs. That's it.

I wouldn't fire him for taking the QB, I'd fire him for managing the team the way he has to keep it on a treadmill of mediocrity and then knocking us off the treadmill at full price. If this is what you want to do, don't pay big money to people like Barr, Rudy, Reiff, et al for the past few years. Throw your cards in and draw a new hand if that's what you're doing.

I've been calling out Spielman for team building for the last couple years. You'll get no argument from me there. Yannick was another terrible decision, trading a 2nd for a 3rd and using up precious cap. Coaching has contributed in a big way with in-season decisions.

There's not a snowball chance in hell that Vikings take a QB in the first. Famous last words. But I'll trade falling off the treadmill for a QBOTF any day. As it is, we've got to hope we have a draft like last year (with 3-4 contributors). That the oline comes together, Kubiak Jr is a good OC, and all the pieces on defense comes together. We could fall off the treadmill without drafting a QB this year.