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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/5/2021 4:45:44 AM

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DE Stephen Weatherly on returning to the #Vikings: "I really didn't know how important it was to have that bond with your D-line coach and just guys you play next to. I kind of took that for granted. To be back in Minnesota it means a lot, with (Andre Patterson) especially.''

Chris Tomasson on Twitter

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/5/2021 3:00:21 PM

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I enjoyed watching this.

https://youtu.be/_REVPqoxFuI

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/5/2021 3:01:57 PM

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The Vikings have released CB Tae Hayes and CB Cordrea Tankersley. (Clearing up 1.77 million in cap space.) Wow that was easy.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/5/2021 4:01:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I enjoyed watching this.

https://youtu.be/_REVPqoxFuI

Ah yes. The days of score a TD, turn around and hand/flip the ball to the ref. When tackling 5 yards out of bounds was legal. It's interesting Foreman didn't seem to have many "big" days. Seemed like it was always 20-25 carries at around 4 yards a pop. It showed one where he had 20 carries for 80 yards, and one of those was like a 50 yarder. Of course he was bigger receiving threat than almost any other RB in those days.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/5/2021 4:26:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I enjoyed watching this.

https://youtu.be/_REVPqoxFuI

Ah yes. The days of score a TD, turn around and hand/flip the ball to the ref. When tackling 5 yards out of bounds was legal. It's interesting Foreman didn't seem to have many "big" days. Seemed like it was always 20-25 carries at around 4 yards a pop. It showed one where he had 20 carries for 80 yards, and one of those was like a 50 yarder. Of course he was bigger receiving threat than almost any other RB in those days.

Ah yes. The days when everyone has to act like a white guy from outstate or be shunned....Come to think of it, we're still in those days for the most part.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/5/2021 4:36:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I enjoyed watching this.

https://youtu.be/_REVPqoxFuI

I enjoyed it when it happened and rewatching just now. Fun player to root for as a kid.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/5/2021 7:15:01 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I enjoyed watching this.

https://youtu.be/_REVPqoxFuI

Ah yes. The days of score a TD, turn around and hand/flip the ball to the ref. When tackling 5 yards out of bounds was legal. It's interesting Foreman didn't seem to have many "big" days. Seemed like it was always 20-25 carries at around 4 yards a pop. It showed one where he had 20 carries for 80 yards, and one of those was like a 50 yarder. Of course he was bigger receiving threat than almost any other RB in those days.

Ah yes. The days when everyone has to act like a white guy from outstate or be shunned....Come to think of it, we're still in those days for the most part.

Ah yes, that good ol' boy cracker Chuck Foreman.

Everybody has to act like David F?

< Message edited by thebigo -- 3/5/2021 7:16:21 PM >

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/5/2021 7:42:25 PM

bohumm

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I enjoyed watching this.

https://youtu.be/_REVPqoxFuI

Ah yes. The days of score a TD, turn around and hand/flip the ball to the ref. When tackling 5 yards out of bounds was legal. It's interesting Foreman didn't seem to have many "big" days. Seemed like it was always 20-25 carries at around 4 yards a pop. It showed one where he had 20 carries for 80 yards, and one of those was like a 50 yarder. Of course he was bigger receiving threat than almost any other RB in those days.

Ah yes. The days when everyone has to act like a white guy from outstate or be shunned....Come to think of it, we're still in those days for the most part.

Ah yes, that good ol' boy cracker Chuck Foreman.

Everybody has to act like David F?

You aren't that obtuse, and leave David out of it. I said it, not him.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/5/2021 9:53:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I enjoyed watching this.

https://youtu.be/_REVPqoxFuI

Ah yes. The days of score a TD, turn around and hand/flip the ball to the ref. When tackling 5 yards out of bounds was legal. It's interesting Foreman didn't seem to have many "big" days. Seemed like it was always 20-25 carries at around 4 yards a pop. It showed one where he had 20 carries for 80 yards, and one of those was like a 50 yarder. Of course he was bigger receiving threat than almost any other RB in those days.

Ah yes. The days when everyone has to act like a white guy from outstate or be shunned....Come to think of it, we're still in those days for the most part.

Ah yes, that good ol' boy cracker Chuck Foreman.

Everybody has to act like David F?

You aren't that obtuse, and leave David out of it. I said it, not him.

White guy from outstate?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/5/2021 10:20:17 PM

bohumm

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I enjoyed watching this.

https://youtu.be/_REVPqoxFuI

Ah yes. The days of score a TD, turn around and hand/flip the ball to the ref. When tackling 5 yards out of bounds was legal. It's interesting Foreman didn't seem to have many "big" days. Seemed like it was always 20-25 carries at around 4 yards a pop. It showed one where he had 20 carries for 80 yards, and one of those was like a 50 yarder. Of course he was bigger receiving threat than almost any other RB in those days.

Ah yes. The days when everyone has to act like a white guy from outstate or be shunned....Come to think of it, we're still in those days for the most part.

Ah yes, that good ol' boy cracker Chuck Foreman.

Everybody has to act like David F?

You aren't that obtuse, and leave David out of it. I said it, not him.

White guy from outstate?

Just hand the ball to the ref or you're wrong. No room or tolerance for anyone else. That's how it's supposed to be, so it must be.

Your values are not everyone's values.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/6/2021 12:12:02 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I enjoyed watching this.

https://youtu.be/_REVPqoxFuI

Ah yes. The days of score a TD, turn around and hand/flip the ball to the ref. When tackling 5 yards out of bounds was legal. It's interesting Foreman didn't seem to have many "big" days. Seemed like it was always 20-25 carries at around 4 yards a pop. It showed one where he had 20 carries for 80 yards, and one of those was like a 50 yarder. Of course he was bigger receiving threat than almost any other RB in those days.

Ah yes. The days when everyone has to act like a white guy from outstate or be shunned....Come to think of it, we're still in those days for the most part.

Ah yes, that good ol' boy cracker Chuck Foreman.

Everybody has to act like David F?

You aren't that obtuse, and leave David out of it. I said it, not him.

White guy from outstate?

Just hand the ball to the ref or you're wrong. No room or tolerance for anyone else. That's how it's supposed to be, so it must be.

Your values are not everyone's values.

You're just a load of fun, aren't you?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/6/2021 9:36:53 AM

bohumm

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I enjoyed watching this.

https://youtu.be/_REVPqoxFuI

Ah yes. The days of score a TD, turn around and hand/flip the ball to the ref. When tackling 5 yards out of bounds was legal. It's interesting Foreman didn't seem to have many "big" days. Seemed like it was always 20-25 carries at around 4 yards a pop. It showed one where he had 20 carries for 80 yards, and one of those was like a 50 yarder. Of course he was bigger receiving threat than almost any other RB in those days.

Ah yes. The days when everyone has to act like a white guy from outstate or be shunned....Come to think of it, we're still in those days for the most part.

Ah yes, that good ol' boy cracker Chuck Foreman.

Everybody has to act like David F?

You aren't that obtuse, and leave David out of it. I said it, not him.

White guy from outstate?

Just hand the ball to the ref or you're wrong. No room or tolerance for anyone else. That's how it's supposed to be, so it must be.

Your values are not everyone's values.

You're just a load of fun, aren't you?

You're just a load of -isms, aren't you?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/6/2021 11:36:48 AM

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I just checked and the anniversary of the Diggs trade is March 16th. (Same day as the Hopkins trade between the Cardinals and Texans) I mention that because there's no guarantee, but there is a reasonable chance there could be another trade involving our favorite team in the next few days. I mean, after free agency begins the team will be focusing on that and when that winds down they will be focusing on the draft. So the next 10 days are the most likely window for trades, I believe. It could be Anthony Barr for a later draft pick or Anthony Barr for a guard as examples.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/6/2021 12:06:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I enjoyed watching this.

https://youtu.be/_REVPqoxFuI

Ah yes. The days of score a TD, turn around and hand/flip the ball to the ref. When tackling 5 yards out of bounds was legal. It's interesting Foreman didn't seem to have many "big" days. Seemed like it was always 20-25 carries at around 4 yards a pop. It showed one where he had 20 carries for 80 yards, and one of those was like a 50 yarder. Of course he was bigger receiving threat than almost any other RB in those days.

Ah yes. The days when everyone has to act like a white guy from outstate or be shunned....Come to think of it, we're still in those days for the most part.

Ah yes, that good ol' boy cracker Chuck Foreman.

Everybody has to act like David F?

You aren't that obtuse, and leave David out of it. I said it, not him.

White guy from outstate?

Just hand the ball to the ref or you're wrong. No room or tolerance for anyone else. That's how it's supposed to be, so it must be.

Your values are not everyone's values.

You're just a load of fun, aren't you?

You're just a load of -isms, aren't you?

Me and Chuck Foreman are of one mind apparently

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/6/2021 3:08:22 PM

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Danielle Hunter is 'liking' tweets that mention him being traded. Back when Ngakowe was traded there was rumors that it was TWO star D-linemen that weren't happy. This would be a disaster to lose him unless we can get two first round picks or better.

_____________________________

I wouldn't give ANY qb $30-50+ mil unless that QB had won me a Super Bowl. Did you win a Super Bowl on your rookie deal? Yes? Great! Here's your hugenormous contract. F it let's just run victory laps and love life. No? Good luck. Next!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/6/2021 4:31:20 PM

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The color of my favorite team.

https://twitter.com/sachikojohnson/status/1368325969975668741?s=20

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We live in a world where we depend upon each other. In other words, we need each other just as God needs us and we need Him. How wonderful it would be if we could unite and live in harmony. Wouldn't it be better that way?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/6/2021 5:41:43 PM

Mark Anderson

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quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Danielle Hunter is 'liking' tweets that mention him being traded. Back when Ngakowe was traded there was rumors that it was TWO star D-linemen that weren't happy. This would be a disaster to lose him unless we can get two first round picks or better.

Sweeten up his deal with some more money upfront(if neck checks out)Add a year if need be.
Get him into Top 10 range for DE.
Lower his cap number(this year) a little while we are at it.

If he declines, we have him under contract for 3 more years. Sit out and throw away 40M if he wants.

< Message edited by Mark Anderson -- 3/6/2021 5:44:31 PM >

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/6/2021 6:43:06 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Danielle Hunter is 'liking' tweets that mention him being traded. Back when Ngakowe was traded there was rumors that it was TWO star D-linemen that weren't happy. This would be a disaster to lose him unless we can get two first round picks or better.

Sweeten up his deal with some more money upfront(if neck checks out)Add a year if need be.
Get him into Top 10 range for DE.
Lower his cap number(this year) a little while we are at it.

If he declines, we have him under contract for 3 more years. Sit out and throw away 40M if he wants.

Depending on how I search the salaries on spotrac it appears that Hunter is already in the top 10 but just barely. He's 10th in average salary per year per contract. He's 13th in total cash for 2021.

It might not be money that's the issue.

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I wouldn't give ANY qb $30-50+ mil unless that QB had won me a Super Bowl. Did you win a Super Bowl on your rookie deal? Yes? Great! Here's your hugenormous contract. F it let's just run victory laps and love life. No? Good luck. Next!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/6/2021 7:18:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Danielle Hunter is 'liking' tweets that mention him being traded. Back when Ngakowe was traded there was rumors that it was TWO star D-linemen that weren't happy. This would be a disaster to lose him unless we can get two first round picks or better.

Sweeten up his deal with some more money upfront(if neck checks out)Add a year if need be.
Get him into Top 10 range for DE.
Lower his cap number(this year) a little while we are at it.

If he declines, we have him under contract for 3 more years. Sit out and throw away 40M if he wants.

We have to get this one right. Providing he's healthy, he makes our entire DLine, and individual DLinemen, so much better.
He's young and not a lot of mileage, even going back to Baton Rouge.

Having a defensive player that opponents have to game plan for is extremely valuable.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/6/2021 8:25:32 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Danielle Hunter is 'liking' tweets that mention him being traded. Back when Ngakowe was traded there was rumors that it was TWO star D-linemen that weren't happy. This would be a disaster to lose him unless we can get two first round picks or better.

Sweeten up his deal with some more money upfront(if neck checks out)Add a year if need be.
Get him into Top 10 range for DE.
Lower his cap number(this year) a little while we are at it.

If he declines, we have him under contract for 3 more years. Sit out and throw away 40M if he wants.

Thing is, you never know about necks. Look at Hughes.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/7/2021 6:18:47 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Danielle Hunter is 'liking' tweets that mention him being traded. Back when Ngakowe was traded there was rumors that it was TWO star D-linemen that weren't happy. This would be a disaster to lose him unless we can get two first round picks or better.

Sweeten up his deal with some more money upfront(if neck checks out)Add a year if need be.
Get him into Top 10 range for DE.
Lower his cap number(this year) a little while we are at it.

If he declines, we have him under contract for 3 more years. Sit out and throw away 40M if he wants.

The problem is that you don't want anything less than his 100% best. So good will is needed here and well deserved for Hunter.

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We live in a world where we depend upon each other. In other words, we need each other just as God needs us and we need Him. How wonderful it would be if we could unite and live in harmony. Wouldn't it be better that way?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/7/2021 8:45:14 AM

Mark Anderson

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Danielle Hunter is 'liking' tweets that mention him being traded. Back when Ngakowe was traded there was rumors that it was TWO star D-linemen that weren't happy. This would be a disaster to lose him unless we can get two first round picks or better.

Sweeten up his deal with some more money upfront(if neck checks out)Add a year if need be.
Get him into Top 10 range for DE.
Lower his cap number(this year) a little while we are at it.

If he declines, we have him under contract for 3 more years. Sit out and throw away 40M if he wants.

The problem is that you don't want anything less than his 100% best. So good will is needed here and well deserved for Hunter.

The good will is sweetening his deal.

I can't think of a time where Hunter wasn't praised by the FO and coaching staff.

Not saying this is the case for Hunter but a lot of the NFL players want the NBA deal where you can basically force your way unto any team you want(to a certain extent).

They(NFL players) just approved a new Labor Deal so the majority basically got what they wanted.

< Message edited by Mark Anderson -- 3/7/2021 9:15:24 AM >

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/7/2021 11:52:26 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JT2

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Danielle Hunter is 'liking' tweets that mention him being traded. Back when Ngakowe was traded there was rumors that it was TWO star D-linemen that weren't happy. This would be a disaster to lose him unless we can get two first round picks or better.

Sweeten up his deal with some more money upfront(if neck checks out)Add a year if need be.
Get him into Top 10 range for DE.
Lower his cap number(this year) a little while we are at it.

If he declines, we have him under contract for 3 more years. Sit out and throw away 40M if he wants.

We have to get this one right. Providing he's healthy, he makes our entire DLine, and individual DLinemen, so much better.
He's young and not a lot of mileage, even going back to Baton Rouge.

Having a defensive player that opponents have to game plan for is extremely valuable.

Look how the ends opposite him in 2019 struggled in 2020 (Odenigbo and Griffen).

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/7/2021 2:32:59 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Danielle Hunter is 'liking' tweets that mention him being traded. Back when Ngakowe was traded there was rumors that it was TWO star D-linemen that weren't happy. This would be a disaster to lose him unless we can get two first round picks or better.

Sweeten up his deal with some more money upfront(if neck checks out)Add a year if need be.
Get him into Top 10 range for DE.
Lower his cap number(this year) a little while we are at it.

If he declines, we have him under contract for 3 more years. Sit out and throw away 40M if he wants.

The problem is that you don't want anything less than his 100% best. So good will is needed here and well deserved for Hunter.

The good will is sweetening his deal.

I can't think of a time where Hunter wasn't praised by the FO and coaching staff.

Not saying this is the case for Hunter but a lot of the NFL players want the NBA deal where you can basically force your way unto any team you want(to a certain extent).

They(NFL players) just approved a new Labor Deal so the majority basically got what they wanted.

All of this assumes money is the issue. It might not be.

_____________________________

I wouldn't give ANY qb $30-50+ mil unless that QB had won me a Super Bowl. Did you win a Super Bowl on your rookie deal? Yes? Great! Here's your hugenormous contract. F it let's just run victory laps and love life. No? Good luck. Next!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/7/2021 3:32:32 PM

Mark Anderson

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quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

Danielle Hunter is 'liking' tweets that mention him being traded. Back when Ngakowe was traded there was rumors that it was TWO star D-linemen that weren't happy. This would be a disaster to lose him unless we can get two first round picks or better.

Sweeten up his deal with some more money upfront(if neck checks out)Add a year if need be.
Get him into Top 10 range for DE.
Lower his cap number(this year) a little while we are at it.

If he declines, we have him under contract for 3 more years. Sit out and throw away 40M if he wants.

The problem is that you don't want anything less than his 100% best. So good will is needed here and well deserved for Hunter.

The good will is sweetening his deal.

I can't think of a time where Hunter wasn't praised by the FO and coaching staff.

Not saying this is the case for Hunter but a lot of the NFL players want the NBA deal where you can basically force your way unto any team you want(to a certain extent).

They(NFL players) just approved a new Labor Deal so the majority basically got what they wanted.

All of this assumes money is the issue. It might not be.

You have said that twice now.

What do you think the problem is? What is another reason?

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