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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

A good team requires a good core. A good core is built through good drafts. KAM has had a series of terrible drafts. He keeps using free agency to retool around an eroding core. We suddenly have a team of journeymen with no identity. KAM has shown no signs of figuring it out.

KOC's identity as a QB whisperer is greatly overstated. Cousins put up big numbers before KOC arrived. Darnold was a #3 overall pick, who got a chance to breath and reboot with the Niners before coming here. On top of that, he runs a poorly constructed scheme and makes baffling in game decisions.

Flores looks like he's been figured out. His aging players don't help.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Right now, the 2026 cap hit is $33M for just the TEs.

Hockenson is averaging 32 ypg for a whopping 8.2 average, and 1/7th of a TD per game.

Oliver is averaging 9 ypg with 0 TDs.

Wierd Al Yurosek somehow got his first catch. For 5 yards.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

I'm more convinced than ever that what we are currently experiencing is a battle between O'Connell and Adofo-Mensah. Ultimately, the GM wants McCarthy to play and O'Connell doesn't think he's any good. He had two solid guys in Darnold and Daniel Jones. Now he has nothing worth a damned and he knows it.

It's a pissing match.

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

KAM was a risk. No doubt. He was the shiny new toy, analytics, wall st., said all the right things, had exposure to SF front office (pretty good at personnel), and he may have been well respected in both SF and Cle

But, the reality is he never had to make football decisions and be the guy for personnel, drafting, etc

It's coming back to bite them. As most have said, any players worth anything were from the Spielman era

KAM may be a good cap guy, but he seems woefully deficient on identifying good, young talent.
Having Grigson as you Asst doesn't help. He was a disaster in Indy.

He didn't have the gonads to do a full rebuild, he's succumbed to this competitive reubuild crap, and extending older, washed players.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

KAM was a risk. No doubt. He was the shiny new toy, analytics, wall st., said all the right things, had exposure to SF front office (pretty good at personnel), and he may have been well respected in both SF and Cle

But, the reality is he never had to make football decisions and be the guy for personnel, drafting, etc

It's coming back to bite them. As most have said, any players worth anything were from the Spielman era

KAM may be a good cap guy, but he seems woefully deficient on identifying good, young talent.
Having Grigson as you Asst doesn't help. He was a disaster in Indy.

He didn't have the gonads to do a full rebuild, he's succumbed to this competitive reubuild crap, and extending older, washed players.

In 2025 you have to have a quarterback to win, period. McCarthy was cheap. Wentz was cheap. The other two guys weren't going to be cheap.

Analytics doesn't work in football like it works in baseball (and some would argue it doesn't work there either).

No QB, no chance.

It's time to go back to football professionals in leadership roles in the organization instead of math geeks.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Right now, the 2026 cap hit is $33M for just the TEs.

Hockenson is averaging 32 ypg for a whopping 8.2 average, and 1/7th of a TD per game.

Oliver is averaging 9 ypg with 0 TDs.

Wierd Al Yurosek somehow got his first catch. For 5 yards.

Where did you get Oliver's numbers? He has 2 TDs this year alone.

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

KAM was a risk. No doubt. He was the shiny new toy, analytics, wall st., said all the right things, had exposure to SF front office (pretty good at personnel), and he may have been well respected in both SF and Cle

But, the reality is he never had to make football decisions and be the guy for personnel, drafting, etc

It's coming back to bite them. As most have said, any players worth anything were from the Spielman era

KAM may be a good cap guy, but he seems woefully deficient on identifying good, young talent.
Having Grigson as you Asst doesn't help. He was a disaster in Indy.

He didn't have the gonads to do a full rebuild, he's succumbed to this competitive reubuild crap, and extending older, washed players.

In 2025 you have to have a quarterback to win, period. McCarthy was cheap. Wentz was cheap. The other two guys weren't going to be cheap.

Analytics doesn't work in football like it works in baseball (and some would argue it doesn't work there either).

No QB, no chance.

It's time to go back to football professionals in leadership roles in the organization instead of math geeks.

They traded a decent amount of draft capital to draft Dallas Turner as their next great pass rusher, I and last night i'm watching a guy get completely stone walled player after play, missing tackles and committing stupid penalties

These the are the decisions that kill and haunt teams for years

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

KAM was a risk. No doubt. He was the shiny new toy, analytics, wall st., said all the right things, had exposure to SF front office (pretty good at personnel), and he may have been well respected in both SF and Cle

But, the reality is he never had to make football decisions and be the guy for personnel, drafting, etc

It's coming back to bite them. As most have said, any players worth anything were from the Spielman era

KAM may be a good cap guy, but he seems woefully deficient on identifying good, young talent.
Having Grigson as you Asst doesn't help. He was a disaster in Indy.

He didn't have the gonads to do a full rebuild, he's succumbed to this competitive reubuild crap, and extending older, washed players.

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

KAM was a risk. No doubt. He was the shiny new toy, analytics, wall st., said all the right things, had exposure to SF front office (pretty good at personnel), and he may have been well respected in both SF and Cle

But, the reality is he never had to make football decisions and be the guy for personnel, drafting, etc

It's coming back to bite them. As most have said, any players worth anything were from the Spielman era

KAM may be a good cap guy, but he seems woefully deficient on identifying good, young talent.
Having Grigson as you Asst doesn't help. He was a disaster in Indy.

He didn't have the gonads to do a full rebuild, he's succumbed to this competitive reubuild crap, and extending older, washed players.

In 2025 you have to have a quarterback to win, period. McCarthy was cheap. Wentz was cheap. The other two guys weren't going to be cheap.

Analytics doesn't work in football like it works in baseball (and some would argue it doesn't work there either).

No QB, no chance.

It's time to go back to football professionals in leadership roles in the organization instead of math geeks.

They traded a decent amount of draft capital to draft Dallas Turner as their next great pass rusher, I and last night i'm watching a guy get completely stone walled player after play, missing tackles and committing stupid penalties

These the are the decisions that kill and haunt teams for years

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

From Ian Rapoport:

Vikings HC Kevin O’Connell said “if J.J. [McCarthy] is healthy, J.J. will play” in Week 9 against the Lions.
Speaking after a 37-10 loss to the Chargers on Thursday night, O’Connell stuck to the script regarding his second-year quarterbacks availability. McCarthy is nearly six full weeks removed from a high-ankle sprain he suffered in Week 2 against the Falcons, but has been healthy enough to serve as the team’s emergency QB in back-to-back weeks. He also looked particularly nimble in Thursday’s loss when he leapt over Justin Jefferson who was barreling toward the sideline after making a catch. McCarthy has been listed as limited in every practice over the last two weeks and appears to be trending in the right direction toward a return. We’ll likely get a more definite answer from KOC once practice starts up next week.


The plot thickens. He ain't hurt, people, he ain't hurt.

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ORIGINAL: timz

I posted this the day KAM was hired and took a ton of abuse for it. "So I have a real question that hopefully someone here can answer. Why would you hire as your new GM someone from the front office of a team as crappy as the Browns have been for quite some time now? " This is what I expect is the reason for that. " He was the shiny new toy, analytics, wall st., said all the right things,"