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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/4/2026 9:41:00 PM   
Bill Johanesen


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Status: offline 		I suggest we get:

Herbert
Taylor and Breece
The two top guards and the top center
The best S
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/4/2026 10:53:55 PM   
marty


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Status: online 		Why make bold moves while you have a strong defense, we'll always have Flores and a strong defense. Who really cares if the team finishes last in the division, it helps you get an easy schedule the following season.

It should be easy to find a Pro Bowl guard, and a bell cow RB through FA or the draft, and a franchise QB is right around the corner, might only need a few years to develop.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 2:03:48 AM   
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I suggest we get:

Herbert
Taylor and Breece
The two top guards and the top center
The best S



i'd offer the chargers our first rounders in '27 & '28 for herbert and their 2nd rounders in '27 & '28....

with our 1st rounders and their own, they could move up and choose any quarterback in the '27 draft....


i guess they're probably going to have the first pick in 2027 anyway....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 3:08:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Unless we Dress the disater at guard, that is Fries, and find a couple guys who can ****ing tackle a running back.

We are all smoke and mirrors.

Cook and Josh Allen are going to feast on Flores defense..

Maybe not in the first quarter, but in the late game, Flores defense will be gassed and gashed by the exhaustion of have to play turnaround after turnaround because of KOC and MURRAY, going 3-out, followed by 3-out, or a 4 play 20 yard drive.

What the hell is wrong with our punter(s)?

Who carries two punters?

Besides ST coverage that cant tackle, either..

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 7:23:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Bills Vikings game in 2022 was an all time classic. One of the most entertaining games in Vikings history.

This year I expect Buffalo’s side of the equation to be much the same. I don’t expect the Vikings side of it to be up to the task.

Strange things happen in the NFL, for sure. But I’m not putting anything on this game. It would take a rapid turnaround from Murray and the offense.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 8:21:13 AM   
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The Bills Vikings game in 2022 was an all time classic. One of the most entertaining games in Vikings history.

This year I expect Buffalo’s side of the equation to be much the same. I don’t expect the Vikings side of it to be up to the task.

Strange things happen in the NFL, for sure. But I’m not putting anything on this game. It would take a rapid turnaround from Murray and the offense.

Sunday Murray's aching leg will take a turn for the worst and KOC will trot out a cold Wentz as the sacrificial QB on Monday Night Football....should be fun. LOL
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 9:05:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Buffalo is #1 in Points For by a fairly large margin. They have played better teams than Minnesota.

It seems strange this year we have had an unusually high amount of 'almost' sacks. Perhaps it's not way above the norm, but it's a lot regardless. Allen might not be as shifty as some of the QBs we've played, but he has good pocked presence and runs effectively at will. If there are more almost-sacks, he can take off at will. Allen may very well be their leading rusher Monday night.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 10:04:46 AM   
Bill Johanesen


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Status: offline 		An excerpt from the Daily Norseman that IMO encapsulates the current state of the offense well:

The Vikings have had other trade rumors around them as well, notably for Colts’ running back Jonathan Taylor. Our friends at Stampede Blue have said that the asking price for Taylor is a first-round pick and a defensive tackle, which is a price that the Vikings should absolutely not be entertaining, in my opinion. Jonathan Taylor doesn’t fix this offense if there’s no passing game, and in its current state, the Vikings need to be careful about expending too much draft capital. Why?

Well, because this team has zero quarterbacks on the roster under contract beyond this season. Murray is here on a one-year deal and, as we know, hasn’t been making what you’d call a super compelling case for being the long-term guy anyway. Carson Wentz is on a one-year deal and also isn’t the long-term answer. And if you’ve looked at the 2027 free agent pool at the quarterback position, it’s a bit of a wasteland. Even in the aftermath of the J.J. McCarthy situation. . .and don’t get me started on that again. . .this team is probably going to have to take another swing at a quarterback in the draft sooner rather than later, and given that they already have six wins, if they want to make any sort of move for a top quarterback in 2027, they’re going to need picks to do that.


And the bizarre yet repeated idea of starting Wentz on Dec. 6th to get around the QB woes is, well, bizarre. There are other words for it, but basically when in the annals of the NFL has a team decided a particular QB is their best QB but they are going to intentionally not play that QB until December? I don't think kids playing a season of Madden have ever done that!

Not to mention the team doesn't think Wentz is the best bet. Although that's not to say they won't bench Murray simply out of desperation. KOC might even suit up.

Bizarre is an adjective that means very strange, unusual, or atypical, often involving a striking contrast or unexpected combination of elements.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 10:15:01 AM   
Bill Johanesen


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Status: offline 		A top-tier RB would be great if it was the proverbial missing piece. But it's not the missing piece. A top-tier QB is, or maybe an upper-tier one on the off chance we upgraded at IOL and RB.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 11:04:35 AM   
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A top-tier RB would be great if it was the proverbial missing piece. But it's not the missing piece. A top-tier QB is, or maybe an upper-tier one on the off chance we upgraded at IOL and RB.

At this point, I would be shocked beyond belief if we acquired anyone of any significance.

We don't have much cap space so we are limited there. We don't want to push to much dead money into the next few years either so they don't want to do too much cap manipulation. Also they don't want to give up the draft capital because there are going to be some significant holes to fill etc next offseason.

I WANT
a QB, G, RB, but I just don't see any of them happening...except MAYBE a guard.

Not really holding my breath at this point.

The QB situation is going to kill this team.

It's that simple.

The only thing that might help is better protection, and an effective running game...that's why all the talk about a running back/Guard.

There really are only three QBs out there with enough knowledge of this offensive scheme to be useful midseason.
1. Kirk Cousins and the Raiders aren't giving him up
2. Sam Darnold. Same thing here.. Seahawks aren't giving him up.
3. Daniel Jones. Colts would probably give him up. But how good would he actually be? I would be fine as long as we don't have to give up too much to find out.

Maybe a Tony Pollard, Derrick Henry, or Saquon Barkely or Breece Hall would help the running game...

But we need blocking.

And none of it matters if Kyler Murray is given any more significant time under center.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 11:18:08 AM   
Bill Johanesen


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a QB, G, RB, but I just don't see any of them happening...except MAYBE a guard.

Same. And IMO more likely it would be an under-the-radar type vs a "Pro Bowler". The problem with that is you still have to cough up something for the trade and the acquisition might not supplant Fries... in which case, just wait until free agency.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 11:21:28 AM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 12:22:59 PM   
Richard Neussendorfer

 

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It's also worth noting all the players from significant trades have gone to teams with legit QBs.

Good point. Teasley is making KOC work with what hes got. I'm actually ok with it. This team isn't going anywhere without significant qb and RG upgrades.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 12:23:54 PM   
marty


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Status: online 		A great QB is not needed to win the SB, see Darnold last year. And how great is Hurts ? Top 10 all time ?

Strong defense, and great run game is what is needed.

Pro Bowl, maybe even just serviceable guard, and then a bell cow RB with Jonathan Taylor.

Preserving Wentz until December 6th, so he can get 4 regular season starts, followed by 3 or 4 playoff wins is out of the box, simply brilliant, it was suggested by someone earlier in this thread, and I agree with it. It is similar to when veterans that haven't played for awhile, want to sign and start playing for a team in December. It was rumored last season that Aaron Donald might once again join the Rams last December.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 12:25:36 PM   
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A great QB is not needed to win the SB, see Darnold last year. And how great is Hurts ? Top 10 all time ?

Strong defense, and great run game is what is needed.

Pro Bowl, maybe even just serviceable guard, and then a bell cow RB with Jonathan Taylor.

Preserving Wentz until December 6th, so he can get 4 regular season starts, followed by 3 or 4 playoff wins is out of the box, simply brilliant, it was suggested by someone earlier in this thread, and I agree with it. It is similar to when veterans that haven't played for awhile, want to sign and start playing for a team in December. It was rumored last season that Aaron Donald might once again join the Rams last December.

Darnold is a HUGE upgrade from what we have on the roster. It isnt going to happen this year.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 12:37:29 PM   
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Status: online 		Vikings’ Kyler Murray to miss MNF vs. Bills with hamstring strain, Carson Wentz to start
By Alec Lewis
Nov. 5, 2026 Updated 12:31 pm CST

LOL, he didn't even make it to Sunday like I thought he would.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 1:05:45 PM   
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A great QB is not needed to win the SB, see Darnold last year. And how great is Hurts ? Top 10 all time ?

Strong defense, and great run game is what is needed.

Pro Bowl, maybe even just serviceable guard, and then a bell cow RB with Jonathan Taylor.

Preserving Wentz until December 6th, so he can get 4 regular season starts, followed by 3 or 4 playoff wins is out of the box, simply brilliant, it was suggested by someone earlier in this thread, and I agree with it. It is similar to when veterans that haven't played for awhile, want to sign and start playing for a team in December. It was rumored last season that Aaron Donald might once again join the Rams last December.


OK. We are NOT trading for Johnathan Taylor....

I would just forget all hopes of that happening.

We wont give up the draft capital that would be necessary.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 1:06:50 PM   
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Vikings’ Kyler Murray to miss MNF vs. Bills with hamstring strain, Carson Wentz to start
By Alec Lewis
Nov. 5, 2026 Updated 12:31 pm CST

LOL, he didn't even make it to Sunday like I thought he would.



Yep. It's official. Soft benchng has happened.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 1:27:28 PM   
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Status: online 		We are not trading for Jonathan Taylor, that would be the smart thing to make the Vikings a SB contender.

Wentz starting at home against Buffalo, Vikings could pull an upset.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 3:08:56 PM   
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A great QB is not needed to win the SB, see Darnold last year. And how great is Hurts ? Top 10 all time ?

Strong defense, and great run game is what is needed.

Pro Bowl, maybe even just serviceable guard, and then a bell cow RB with Jonathan Taylor.

Preserving Wentz until December 6th, so he can get 4 regular season starts, followed by 3 or 4 playoff wins is out of the box, simply brilliant, it was suggested by someone earlier in this thread, and I agree with it. It is similar to when veterans that haven't played for awhile, want to sign and start playing for a team in December. It was rumored last season that Aaron Donald might once again join the Rams last December.


The problem is you are switching between Kyler and Wentz.....it is like 33 year old Tommy Kramer to 33 year old Steve Dills.
It isn't 24 year old Wentz to 25 year old Foles or Drew Bledsoe to very young Tom Brady.

The surprise to me is they announced it so early.....maybe it is a negotiating tactic.....no idea.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 3:34:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		The QB cupboard is bare so we should hang on to all our draft capital.

I could see us possibly trading for Cousins if he is made available just so we can make it through the season. I'd trade Murray in a minute if that happened.

Trading picks for Taylor is beyond stupid esp what the Colts are asking.

What we should be doing is unloading Addison for a 2nd rd pick.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 3:37:51 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 3:40:31 PM   
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Jordan Addison is a good #2 if we had a qb who wasn’t a Smurf..


Problem is he is better than Wentz. They will Double A gap blitz that statue Monday Night.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 3:57:58 PM   
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Jordan Addison is a good #2 if we had a qb who wasn’t a Smurf..

I agree Addison is a serviceable #2. I just don't trust him to stay out of trouble esp after he gets paid. Let him be someone else's headache and draft a new one.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 11/5/2026 4:02:44 PM   
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