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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 7:41:01 AM   
Todd M

 

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Status: online 		Hey, Peter...

After reading the book (ok, skimming the important points) I did not wake up without the desire to smoke. I woke up miserable thinking - uh, day 2...diabetes sucks.

I'm not ready to tackle quitting smoking along with the other stuff. I mean I want to...but if I'm not 100% on board...

I nailed eating yesterday - but it was one stinking day. With the new meds and sugar withdrawal I feel crappy enough.

Excuses? Pussy? Probably. I know I have to but it seems daunting at the moment...
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 7:57:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Todd, go take a walk and eat some fruit..
the natural sugars in an apple or an orange will help.. take an apple or orange as you walk out the door.. walk and eat it.. when you are done, turn around and walk back..

do this every day at least once.

the key to healthy eating is to keep yourself from getting hungry and being semi full..
therefore eat more often, just way smaller amounts..

eating 6 times a day was what my wife was supposed to do after her bariatric sergury, but she fell off that wagon pretty quickly once she got pregnant and did not continue to walk much..

the result was a disaster, as i told you.

keep at it bud.. it takes time to retrain and do not give UP!!

NO CAMMIING!!!

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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 9:33:52 AM   
Todd M

 

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Status: online 		I didn't really go hungry yesterday. At 3 meals and 2 healthy snacks. The one snack, a small orange and a small lemon seemed to shoot my blood sugars up...though I really don't have a base to go by...


Went shopping this morning. Mostly on the outside isles. Felt weird/good dropping all the healthy choices on the belt. Bags were much lighter without boxes of processed food, pop ect...

Craving spaghetti...reading labels...decided **** it I can scratch out something healthier than the 'best' sauce out there. Plus grabbed whole grain pasta.

It's going to be a long process of continually making the right choices. I won't use this place as my diary but it sure has been a good jump start.

Got given an exorcise bike...just in time...we got dumped on and it is about to turn frigid (practically our 1st taste of winter) so I plan on getting on that a couple times a day.
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 10:04:07 AM   
Daniel Lee Young

 

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Status: offline 		just keep reading labels and picking the healthier of the choices.. the few pennies that one might cost over the other would not even matter..

a stationary bike is great.. you can watch tv while getting in some cardio and toning up a bit..

oh, and i'm looking at a bag of fritos knock off corn chips and another of doritos knockff chips we gt at the store because they are half the price of "name" brands..

serving size i 1 0z.. but with chips and such i know I eat 2-3 servings at a time..
the good news is that a serving is 160 cals and ZERO cholesterol.
Zero sugar and only 6% of daily sodium and only 5% of carbs and as a bonus 2 grams of protein.

Peanuts.. mixed nuts.. that kind of thing for snacking.. goes good with water..

Peanut butter and sugar free jams and jellies sandwiches, good with plain milk...

I know this sounds "yuck" but Elvis and I endorse peanut butter and Bananna on whole wheat..



Idk if diabetics have to be super watchful on carbs, but you need some carbs regardless of health issues because they provide a stabilizing effect on insulin levels in your blood.

As always, moderation..

stick with it..

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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 10:17:09 AM   
Todd M

 

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Was told to watch carbs but I'm guessing mainly as a check and balance to eat better in general.

I don't know if I have the self control to keep munchies in the house. A serving size is such a minuscule amount as to be laughable. A serving size to the wife and I was devouring/fighting over a bag wishing there was more.

I just had my snack. An ounce (total) of sardines and oysters and a serving of peppers and cucumber. Tiny bit of dressing.
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 10:26:00 AM   
Daniel Lee Young

 

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Status: offline 		the serving size thing is also a learned process todd..

i don't expect you to change everything over night ( yes i do but let deal with reality , here... )

but with chips hell grab two handfuls out of a bag and put them on a plate and add something alongside..

like a low fat dip or dressing to dunk them in, maybe even celery sticks or carrot chips for that "change of pace" palate cleansing effect( your teeth and tongue will thank you)..

big ol glass of sugar free chocolate milk or flavored water..

don't wolf.. savor..

it takes time.. and i love to ramble on..

gotta go to bed...
see ya..

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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 12:11:54 PM   
Todd M

 

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"Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead"  Watch it Todd!


That was excellent. Thanks for the recommendation.

I'm not against doing a juice fast. Be nice to consider one during the peak season when fruit and veggies are plentiful and not so dang expensive.

See how things go with the diet change, giving up pop and processed junk.
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 1:28:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Toby Stumbo

"Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead"  Watch it Todd!


That was excellent. Thanks for the recommendation.

I'm not against doing a juice fast. Be nice to consider one during the peak season when fruit and veggies are plentiful and not so dang expensive.

See how things go with the diet change, giving up pop and processed junk.


He has a facebook and other sites that have lots of great healthy recipes and the such as well.   The documentary was just a good eye opener I thought might help, juicing isn't for everyone but can be quite good when you find the right mixture.  I never did the full juice cleanse either but doing a nice healthy juice here and there is always better than doing none.

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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 3:21:34 PM   
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Hey, Peter...

After reading the book (ok, skimming the important points) I did not wake up without the desire to smoke. I woke up miserable thinking - uh, day 2...diabetes sucks.

I'm not ready to tackle quitting smoking along with the other stuff. I mean I want to...but if I'm not 100% on board...

I nailed eating yesterday - but it was one stinking day. With the new meds and sugar withdrawal I feel crappy enough.

Excuses? Pussy? Probably. I know I have to but it seems daunting at the moment...


Excuses.....meh

Pussy.....I doubt you are

You've got an awful lot on your plate with the other stuff. All in good time on the smoking.
But keep in mind, the nicotine habit can be every bit as lethal as the other stuff. End of sermon.
Like they say,nothing worse than a reformed smoker or a born again Christian eh?

But do keep us posted on how things are going.
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 3:59:37 PM   
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just keep reading labels and picking the healthier of the choices.. the few pennies that one might cost over the other would not even matter..

a stationary bike is great.. you can watch tv while getting in some cardio and toning up a bit..

oh, and i'm looking at a bag of fritos knock off corn chips and another of doritos knockff chips we gt at the store because they are half the price of "name" brands..

serving size i 1 0z.. but with chips and such i know I eat 2-3 servings at a time..
the good news is that a serving is 160 cals and ZERO cholesterol.
Zero sugar and only 6% of daily sodium and only 5% of carbs and as a bonus 2 grams of protein.

Peanuts.. mixed nuts.. that kind of thing for snacking.. goes good with water..

Peanut butter and sugar free jams and jellies sandwiches, good with plain milk...

I know this sounds "yuck" but Elvis and I endorse peanut butter and Bananna on whole wheat..



Are you kidding me? The only thing better than a peanut butter and Banana sammy is a peanut butter and honey and Banana sammy.
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 4:01:32 PM   
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I didn't really go hungry yesterday. At 3 meals and 2 healthy snacks. The one snack, a small orange and a small lemon seemed to shoot my blood sugars up...though I really don't have a base to go by...


Went shopping this morning. Mostly on the outside isles. Felt weird/good dropping all the healthy choices on the belt. Bags were much lighter without boxes of processed food, pop ect...

Craving spaghetti...reading labels...decided **** it I can scratch out something healthier than the 'best' sauce out there. Plus grabbed whole grain pasta.

It's going to be a long process of continually making the right choices. I won't use this place as my diary but it sure has been a good jump start.

Got given an exorcise bike...just in time...we got dumped on and it is about to turn frigid (practically our 1st taste of winter) so I plan on getting on that a couple times a day.


You've got plenty of demons I would imagine...
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 4:07:01 PM   
Todd M

 

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I know this sounds "yuck" but Elvis and I endorse peanut butter and Bananna on whole wheat..


PB &B (with or without honey) is great. Nothing yuck about that. I think Elvis probably used white bread and preferred them deep fried though...
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 5:18:07 PM   
Bill Jandro

 

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Status: offline 		Elvis would also sit down to play piano with a pound of fried bacon as a snack.

Don't do this Todd

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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 5:20:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

just keep reading labels and picking the healthier of the choices.. the few pennies that one might cost over the other would not even matter..

a stationary bike is great.. you can watch tv while getting in some cardio and toning up a bit..

oh, and i'm looking at a bag of fritos knock off corn chips and another of doritos knockff chips we gt at the store because they are half the price of "name" brands..

serving size i 1 0z.. but with chips and such i know I eat 2-3 servings at a time..
the good news is that a serving is 160 cals and ZERO cholesterol.
Zero sugar and only 6% of daily sodium and only 5% of carbs and as a bonus 2 grams of protein.

Peanuts.. mixed nuts.. that kind of thing for snacking.. goes good with water..

Peanut butter and sugar free jams and jellies sandwiches, good with plain milk...

I know this sounds "yuck" but Elvis and I endorse peanut butter and Bananna on whole wheat..



Are you kidding me? The only thing better than a peanut butter and Banana sammy is a peanut butter and honey and Banana sammy.

Peanut butter and pickle sandwiches are great!
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 6:49:27 PM   
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 7:08:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not that this is me, but on the far end of the health scale there are just a few simple things:

Water

Fruits/Vegetables (look up which ones are lower on the glycemic scale)
Beans, Oats (steel rolled), raw nuts
Seafood
Cut out whites (in general terms that's sugar, flour, starches, most dairy)
Food that says zero grams trans fat can still have it as they are allowed to round down in the U.S.

Exercise (besides something for 'winter' aerobics, no equipment needed; tons of floor and outdoor exercises, and a lot use your body weight as resistance)

Vitamins (you should probably get all you need from a good diet but maybe not so take a multi, take D3)

Habits (you know the why and what parts, establish the how in terms of lifestyle and logistics)

Most importantly.... the will (mindset to achieve, what makes you want to really live, overcoming challenges/sacrifices, following a transformation)

Smoking is a non-starter in this type of realm. And studies suggest sitting is the new smoking.

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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 8:00:51 PM   
Todd M

 

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Status: online 		Good stuff. Except for that bread. Oh man does that bread look tough to get down.

Settling on whole wheat for now. Always been a white bread guy.
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 8:12:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've had it a couple of times and it is. Not in my habit pattern.

Bread choice = one small improvement. Akin to saying platooning Hunter with Robison.

Multiply those out.....
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 9:00:50 PM   
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I've had it a couple of times and it is. Not in my habit pattern.

Bread choice = one small improvement. Akin to saying platooning Hunter with Robison.

Multiply those out.....

That bread looks like it would be awesome with some liverwurst on it with a thin slice of onion.
And perhaps a nice imperial stout.
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 9:42:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hagar

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

I've had it a couple of times and it is. Not in my habit pattern.

Bread choice = one small improvement. Akin to saying platooning Hunter with Robison.

Multiply those out.....

That bread looks like it would be awesome with some liverwurst on it with a thin slice of onion.
And perhaps a nice imperial stout.

You're not helping Todd.

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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 9:49:59 PM   
Todd M

 

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

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ORIGINAL: hagar

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

I've had it a couple of times and it is. Not in my habit pattern.

Bread choice = one small improvement. Akin to saying platooning Hunter with Robison.

Multiply those out.....

That bread looks like it would be awesome with some liverwurst on it with a thin slice of onion.
And perhaps a nice imperial stout.

You're not helping Todd.


No he did good, lost my appetite.

I used to take an elderly woman shopping. I shamelessly plugged the same joke when when she grabbed some liverwurst. 'I like liver but that stuff's the worst'...

TBH I probably only assume I don't like liverwurst. I love liver but it probably boils down to preferring warmed meat. Love shrimp for example but pass on the peel and eat ones...
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 10:01:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hagar

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

I've had it a couple of times and it is. Not in my habit pattern.

Bread choice = one small improvement. Akin to saying platooning Hunter with Robison.

Multiply those out.....

That bread looks like it would be awesome with some liverwurst on it with a thin slice of onion.
And perhaps a nice imperial stout.

You're not helping Todd.


Is it the stout or liverwurst he can't have? Or both? I honestly don't know and didn't mean to be an idiot. Maybe I shouldn't post on this thread since I don't know about the dietary requirements. I'll check in and follow along because I absolutely hope for the best for Todd.
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 10:08:59 PM   
hagar

 

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

quote:

ORIGINAL: hagar

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

I've had it a couple of times and it is. Not in my habit pattern.

Bread choice = one small improvement. Akin to saying platooning Hunter with Robison.

Multiply those out.....

That bread looks like it would be awesome with some liverwurst on it with a thin slice of onion.
And perhaps a nice imperial stout.

You're not helping Todd.


No he did good, lost my appetite.

I used to take an elderly woman shopping. I shamelessly plugged the same joke when when she grabbed some liverwurst. 'I like liver but that stuff's the worst'...

TBH I probably only assume I don't like liverwurst. I love liver but it probably boils down to preferring warmed meat. Love shrimp for example but pass on the peel and eat ones...


Liverwurst, Liverwurst, Braunschweiger, Liverwurst.
Hope that helps Todd Send me a list of foods you hate and when you're feeling the need for a sugar fix I'll post recipes for those disgusting foods.
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 10:17:22 PM   
Todd M

 

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Sushi
lamb
venison
caribou
Blue or any old cheese, cottage cheese
Sauerkraut
olives
coffee
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RE: Vikes water cooler thread - 2/10/2016 10:19:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hagar

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

quote:

ORIGINAL: hagar

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

I've had it a couple of times and it is. Not in my habit pattern.

Bread choice = one small improvement. Akin to saying platooning Hunter with Robison.

Multiply those out.....

That bread looks like it would be awesome with some liverwurst on it with a thin slice of onion.
And perhaps a nice imperial stout.

You're not helping Todd.


Is it the stout or liverwurst he can't have? Or both? I honestly don't know and didn't mean to be an idiot. Maybe I shouldn't post on this thread since I don't know about the dietary requirements. I'll check in and follow along because I absolutely hope for the best for Todd.

Just kidding my friend. It just made me hungry!

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