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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 9:32:42 AM   
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It might sound odd, but people probably aren’t talking enough about the potential shift in approach among the special teams units. During his career, new special teams coordinator Marwan Maalouf has worked with several top-tier minds, including John Harbaugh and Darren Rizzi. During his most recent stop, the Dolphins had one of the top punt-block percentages in the NFL. Their twist schemes were very difficult to handle and caused chaos. While Maalouf was an assistant in Miami, the Dolphins finished top-five in punt-block percentage every year, including a first-place finish in 2014 (4.92%). Collectively, during his one season as special teams coordinator with the Colts, his units ranked 12th in special teams efficiency, according to Football Outsiders.


http://www.mnvikingscorner.com/2019/07/storylines-to-watch-during-vikings.html


According to Football Outsiders the Vikes special teams rankings under Mike Priefer 2011-2018 - 27, 5, 6, 10, 4, 10, 18, 20

If youre going to be a homophobe you need to have better numbers than that


How many teams got to use a #1 draft pick as their kick returner season after season?

Excuses, excuses. He had a top 10 Special teams five years in a row. That is very successful.


Depends, when nearly every kicker you have, including very successful pro kickers, comes in and becomes a quivering pile of fear every time they kick...well, that's on coaching.

Walsh, Carlson, Bailey. The guy tweaked where he didn't need to. and made his kickers lack confidence in themselves.

Coverage and return units were good to be sure, but to be the best ST coach, the kicking part of it still has to be good too.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 9:39:37 AM   
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re: it's too bad the nfl is so hard-nosed about something like marijuana

Too bad he can't stop smoking it when he knows his earning millions depends on he do just that.

If i take a puff, get pee tested, lose my CDL, lose my job, reputation suffers in this small rural community i live in, how many of you are going to feel sorry for me because it's just marijuana?

In my best old-guy-protecting-his-grass (pun intended) voice ….
"you've got the rest of your life to smoke pot, son …."

Right! If I can only make it till June!

edit: took me a second on the pun (very funny stuff!)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 9:40:51 AM   
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re: it's too bad the nfl is so hard-nosed about something like marijuana

Too bad he can't stop smoking it when he knows his earning millions depends on he do just that.

If i take a puff, get pee tested, lose my CDL, lose my job, reputation suffers in this small rural community i live in, how many of you are going to feel sorry for me because it's just marijuana?

Ouch! Someone gave me the ol' 1 star.

ha ha!
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 10:48:18 AM   
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Sounds like #Vikings rookie WR Dillon Mitchell had an impressive day during the team’s first practice yesterday

(Adam Patrick on Twitter)

Finally happening.


Second best rookie WR fer sure!

That's very good considering how many WRs were drafted this year. I think it was at least 30. However I think he can be the best Rookie WR.


NOW yer dreamin'.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 12:05:44 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 12:07:00 PM   
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re: it's too bad the nfl is so hard-nosed about something like marijuana

Too bad he can't stop smoking it when he knows his earning millions depends on he do just that.

If i take a puff, get pee tested, lose my CDL, lose my job, reputation suffers in this small rural community i live in, how many of you are going to feel sorry for me because it's just marijuana?




yes...i already do feel sorry for you...it's bullshit for you and for nfl players...alcohol is the real killer....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 12:07:47 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 12:10:29 PM   
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i didn't see bower making our final 53 this year, but he could have with another team....


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Bower tore his Achilles while working out on his own, Zimmer said. That’s why he’s on NFI instead of PUP. “But we did it the right way,” Zimmer said. “We didn’t take money away from him.”

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 12:14:13 PM   
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#Vikings coach Mike Zimmer when I asked him about Holton Hill's latest suspension: "I really don't have much thoughts on it,'' Zimmer said. "Disappointed is not a good word for me. ... We don't know if he's going to make the team. So we'll just see how that goes.''

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#Vikings coach Mike Zimmer said that he is beyond disappointed that Holton Hill got another four-game suspension but didn't say too much about it. On it hurting CB depth, said he doesn't even know if Hill and others at CB will make the team.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 12:20:48 PM   
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/26/vikings-work-out-cornerback-morris-claiborne/



claiborne made $7m last year with the jets....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 12:48:01 PM   
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/26/vikings-work-out-cornerback-morris-claiborne/



claiborne made $7m last year with the jets....



It's a bit surreal to think of picking up Claiborne on a cheap deal. I remember he was talked about as a possible pick for the Vikings that year instead of Matt Kalil. Neither one of them turned out well.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 1:36:18 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 1:38:17 PM   
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claiborne made $7m last year with the jets....



It's a bit surreal to think of picking up Claiborne on a cheap deal. I remember he was talked about as a possible pick for the Vikings that year instead of Matt Kalil. Neither one of them turned out well.



i wonder if spielman gets an idea of what kind of money claiborne is looking for before inviting him over...perhaps he gives us a discount because we're a contender....

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 1:40:20 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 2:03:11 PM   
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Less and less promising that Hughes will be ready when the season begins.

http://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2019/07/coming-clean-vikings-reveal-extent-of-mike-hughes-knee-injury/



No surprise, even to the anti-Waynes crowd.

No wonder Zimmer was talking up having a bunch of safeties playing, he sure as hell doesn't have many CBs. If Rhodes begins his annual injury tour early this year we'll be up sh** creek.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 2:11:20 PM   
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Less and less promising that Hughes will be ready when the season begins.

http://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2019/07/coming-clean-vikings-reveal-extent-of-mike-hughes-knee-injury/



No surprise, even to the anti-Waynes crowd.

No wonder Zimmer was talking up having a bunch of safeties playing, he sure as hell doesn't have many CBs. If Rhodes begins his annual injury tour early this year we'll be up sh** creek.

Holton Hill I don't believe can practice with the team when his eight game suspension kicks in.
Meaning he probably won't be up to speed until after a couple weeks of practice with the caveat that he is still on the team.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 2:23:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why would we cut Hill right away? To send a message? To the other 53 players that didn't get suspended?

He won't take a roster spot, will get no salary during suspension (no cap impact). We don't know what our CB situation will look like midway through the season (is Hughes back, other injuries, etc?)

I have no problem with NFL players smoking, as stated alcohol is the real killer. New info is coming out on cannabinoids all the time.

Maybe it's because I live in Colorado. But I am also subject to drug tests being in healthcare.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 2:28:59 PM   
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Less and less promising that Hughes will be ready when the season begins.

http://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2019/07/coming-clean-vikings-reveal-extent-of-mike-hughes-knee-injury/



No surprise, even to the anti-Waynes crowd.

No wonder Zimmer was talking up having a bunch of safeties playing, he sure as hell doesn't have many CBs. If Rhodes begins his annual injury tour early this year we'll be up sh** creek.

Holton Hill I don't believe can practice with the team when his eight game suspension kicks in.
Meaning he probably won't be up to speed until after a couple weeks of practice with the caveat that he is still on the team.


He can practice (and even play) through the preseason, but after that nothing until the suspension is lifted.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 2:30:04 PM   
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Why would we cut Hill right away? To send a message? To the other 53 players that didn't get suspended?

He won't take a roster spot, will get no salary during suspension (no cap impact). We don't know what our CB situation will look like midway through the season (is Hughes back, other injuries, etc?)

I have no problem with NFL players smoking, as stated alcohol is the real killer. New info is coming out on cannabinoids all the time.

Maybe it's because I live in Colorado. But I am also subject to drug tests being in healthcare.


Exactly. There is no reason to drop him that quickly. May as well hold onto him during the suspension and only cut him loose if he is unnecessary later.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 3:32:56 PM   
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re: it's too bad the nfl is so hard-nosed about something like marijuana

Too bad he can't stop smoking it when he knows his earning millions depends on he do just that.

If i take a puff, get pee tested, lose my CDL, lose my job, reputation suffers in this small rural community i live in, how many of you are going to feel sorry for me because it's just marijuana?




yes...i already do feel sorry for you...it's bullshit for you and for nfl players...alcohol is the real killer....



It is a killer! That's why I haven't had a drink in 33 years.

Marijuana's a real killer, too, if you have a job that requires you to stay clean. If you work for the NFL making millions and get high you're a first class idiot. Kind of ridiculous imo to feel sorry for someone who makes a choice that getting high is worth the risk of not earning that kind of money.

Im retiring in June with a state pension. I can get high all i want at that time with little consequence if I want. But Ill be damned if I'm going to jeopardize anything I've earned up till now because some people think it's stupid that it's illegal

Life is full of choices. Follow the rules or dont follow them. Up to you.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 3:36:47 PM   
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Kris Boyd was seeing second-team reps at CB. On first-team, Jalyn Holmes was at 3-tech with Jaleel Johnson at nose. With second-team, Mata'afa was at 3-tech next to Armon Watts. Dakota Dozier has been working at LG with the 2's. #Vikings

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Jordan Taylor and Chad Beebe have been rotating at WR3 throughout practice. #Vikings

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Jayron Kearse with diving interception of Sean Mannion pass.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 3:39:51 PM   
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 3:50:00 PM   
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OL first-team: Reiff-Elflein-Bradbury-Klein, O'Neill. Second-team: Collins-Dozier-Jones-Isidora-Hill.
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So many players taking punt return reps: Jordan Taylor, Davion Davis, Henderson, Beebe, Mitchell, Holton Hill, Bisi Johnson, Craig James. #Vikings

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 4:10:27 PM   
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Less and less promising that Hughes will be ready when the season begins.

http://www.skornorth.com/vikings-2/2019/07/coming-clean-vikings-reveal-extent-of-mike-hughes-knee-injury/



No surprise, even to the anti-Waynes crowd.

No wonder Zimmer was talking up having a bunch of safeties playing, he sure as hell doesn't have many CBs. If Rhodes begins his annual injury tour early this year we'll be up sh** creek.

Holton Hill I don't believe can practice with the team when his eight game suspension kicks in.
Meaning he probably won't be up to speed until after a couple weeks of practice with the caveat that he is still on the team.


He can practice (and even play) through the preseason, but after that nothing until the suspension is lifted.

I think he will need a couple weeks after the eight week layoff to get back up to speed.

So Idt he will be effective until about week 10 (depending when our bye is).

I'm not advocating we cut him. As previously stated let's see where are cb health is at after week eight and decide from there.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 7/26/2019 4:40:43 PM   
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