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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/22/2020 8:47:44 AM   
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More tweets from Dustin Baker:

Teddy Bridgewater has never thrown a pick-six in his NFL career.

Most Passing TDs per game in Vikings history (min. 16 starts) --

1. Kirk Cousins (1.81)
2. Randall Cunningham (1.78)
3. Daunte Culpepper (1.67)
4. Brett Favre (1.52)
5. Warren Moon (1.49)

The two lowest career Win Percentages by Vikings QBs in franchise history
(min. 16 starts) --

Daunte Culpepper (38-42) .475
Christian Ponder (14-21-1) .400

Everson Griffen 74.5 sacks from 2010-2019 was 16th most overall in the NFL during the decade.

Most Sacks by a Viking thru the first 5 seasons of career:

1. Danielle Hunter (54.5)
2. Keith Millard (51.0)
3. John Randle (48.0)
4. Chris Doleman (43.5)
t5. Henry Thomas (34.0)
t5. Kevin Williams (34.0)

If what Hunter is doing feels different--that's because it is.

Peyton Manning 8th Season in NFL:
(2005)
3,747 yds, 28 TD, 10 INT, 104.1 Rating

Kirk Cousins 8th Season in NFL:
(2019)
3,603 yds, 26 TD, 6 INT, 107.4 Rating

List of QBs in NFL history that have thrown more than 25 TDs but less than 7 INTs in their 8th season in the league:

Russell Wilson (2019)
Kirk Cousins (2019)

Highest completion % in NFL history of QBs in their 8th NFL season:

1. Kirk Cousins, 2019 (69.14%)
2. Tom Brady, 2007 (68.86%)
3. Chad Pennington, 2007 (68.85%)
4. Cam Newton, 2018 (67.94%)
5. Peyton Manning, 2005 (67.33%)

NFC North Reception leaders since 2016:

1. Davante Adams (343)
2. Stefon Diggs (312)
3. Adam Thielen (303)
4. Kyle Rudolph (243)
5. Golden Tate (227)

Vikings, since 2015--

w/Diggs in lineup: 43-26-1 (.614)
w/o Diggs in lineup: 7-3 (.700)

Not a direct cause-and-effect, but here are the Ravens run defense rankings since Michael Pierce joined them in 2016:

2016 - 5th
2017 - 15th
2018 - 4th
2019 - 5th

And then Vikings for good measure:

2016 - 20th
2017 - 2nd
2018 - 15th
2019 - 13th

n last two seasons--

Passer Rating
Rodgers: 96.5
Cousins: 103.0

Passing TD
Rodgers: 51
Cousins: 56

Comp%
Rodgers: 62.1
Cousins: 69.7

Passing Yards
Rodgers: 8,444
Cousins: 7,901

Wins
Rodgers: 19
Cousins: 18

Games
Rodgers: 32
Cousins: 31

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/22/2020 8:55:39 AM   
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I go to Twitter to hopefully find some nuggets of information or insight. I feel I stumbled into a gold mine with Mr. Dustin Baker.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/22/2020 9:22:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

More tweets from Dustin Baker:

Teddy Bridgewater has never thrown a pick-six in his NFL career.

Most Passing TDs per game in Vikings history (min. 16 starts) --

1. Kirk Cousins (1.81)
2. Randall Cunningham (1.78)
3. Daunte Culpepper (1.67)
4. Brett Favre (1.52)
5. Warren Moon (1.49)

The two lowest career Win Percentages by Vikings QBs in franchise history
(min. 16 starts) --

Daunte Culpepper (38-42) .475
Christian Ponder (14-21-1) .400

Everson Griffen 74.5 sacks from 2010-2019 was 16th most overall in the NFL during the decade.

Most Sacks by a Viking thru the first 5 seasons of career:

1. Danielle Hunter (54.5)
2. Keith Millard (51.0)
3. John Randle (48.0)
4. Chris Doleman (43.5)
t5. Henry Thomas (34.0)
t5. Kevin Williams (34.0)

If what Hunter is doing feels different--that's because it is.

Peyton Manning 8th Season in NFL:
(2005)
3,747 yds, 28 TD, 10 INT, 104.1 Rating

Kirk Cousins 8th Season in NFL:
(2019)
3,603 yds, 26 TD, 6 INT, 107.4 Rating

List of QBs in NFL history that have thrown more than 25 TDs but less than 7 INTs in their 8th season in the league:

Russell Wilson (2019)
Kirk Cousins (2019)

Highest completion % in NFL history of QBs in their 8th NFL season:

1. Kirk Cousins, 2019 (69.14%)
2. Tom Brady, 2007 (68.86%)
3. Chad Pennington, 2007 (68.85%)
4. Cam Newton, 2018 (67.94%)
5. Peyton Manning, 2005 (67.33%)

NFC North Reception leaders since 2016:

1. Davante Adams (343)
2. Stefon Diggs (312)
3. Adam Thielen (303)
4. Kyle Rudolph (243)
5. Golden Tate (227)

Vikings, since 2015--

w/Diggs in lineup: 43-26-1 (.614)
w/o Diggs in lineup: 7-3 (.700)

Not a direct cause-and-effect, but here are the Ravens run defense rankings since Michael Pierce joined them in 2016:

2016 - 5th
2017 - 15th
2018 - 4th
2019 - 5th

And then Vikings for good measure:

2016 - 20th
2017 - 2nd
2018 - 15th
2019 - 13th

n last two seasons--

Passer Rating
Rodgers: 96.5
Cousins: 103.0

Passing TD
Rodgers: 51
Cousins: 56

Comp%
Rodgers: 62.1
Cousins: 69.7

Passing Yards
Rodgers: 8,444
Cousins: 7,901

Wins
Rodgers: 19
Cousins: 18

Games
Rodgers: 32
Cousins: 31

This is really some amazing shit.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/22/2020 9:24:47 AM   
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More interesting info to consider.

https://twitter.com/fbgchase/status/1241731547126005761?s=20

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/22/2020 5:31:47 PM   
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Slow day so here's something you might enjoy.

https://twitter.com/VikeFans/status/1241766046014541825?s=09

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/22/2020 6:12:06 PM   
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And this.

https://twitter.com/PAOnTheMic/status/1241812885887737858?s=09

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/22/2020 6:19:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

In his career, Kirk Cousins averages 1.67 TDs per game.

That is more TDs/game than the following QBs:

Tony Romo
Ben Roethlisberger
Joe Montana
Dan Fouts
John Elway
Warren Moon
Steve Young
Donovan McNabb
Drew Bledsoe
Terry Bradshaw
Jim Kelly
Cam Newton
Carson Palmer

(Dustin Baker on Twitter)


I would have guessed that.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/22/2020 6:26:24 PM   
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Here's a really good article that addresses what we're all thinking about.

In a minute. I didn't want the long link. Here we go.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/3/22/21187389/minnesota-vikings-offensive-line-considerations

< Message edited by Bruce Johnson -- 3/22/2020 6:27:39 PM >


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/22/2020 11:23:02 PM   
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The 22nd pick from the Bills is big.

I was reading an article of a mock draft where the writer thinks the Saints may put in a call to the Vikings for a trade:

22. Minnesota
23. New England
24. New Orleans

New England will probably be looking for a QB. If they are still at 23, they will have the advantage over the Saints, who will probably be in the market for a QB as well (Brees can't play forever). The Saints could leap frog New England, trading with the Vikings for the 22nd pick (maybe Jordan Love?)

As compensation, the Vikings move down to 24, and also get an extra 4th round pick.

That would be sweet!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/22/2020 11:38:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

The 22nd pick from the Bills is big.

I was reading an article of a mock draft where the writer thinks the Saints may put in a call to the Vikings for a trade:

22. Minnesota
23. New England
24. New Orleans

New England will probably be looking for a QB. If they are still at 23, they will have the advantage over the Saints, who will probably be in the market for a QB as well (Brees can't play forever). The Saints could leap frog New England, trading with the Vikings for the 22nd pick (maybe Jordan Love?)

As compensation, the Vikings move down to 24, and also get an extra 4th round pick.

That would be sweet!


If the Saints are that desperate, make it a 3rd. Not into doing Sean Payton any favors.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/23/2020 8:02:23 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

The 22nd pick from the Bills is big.

I was reading an article of a mock draft where the writer thinks the Saints may put in a call to the Vikings for a trade:

22. Minnesota
23. New England
24. New Orleans

New England will probably be looking for a QB. If they are still at 23, they will have the advantage over the Saints, who will probably be in the market for a QB as well (Brees can't play forever). The Saints could leap frog New England, trading with the Vikings for the 22nd pick (maybe Jordan Love?)

As compensation, the Vikings move down to 24, and also get an extra 4th round pick.

That would be sweet!


If the Saints are that desperate, make it a 3rd. Not into doing Sean Payton any favors.

My thoughts EGGGSACTLY

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/23/2020 8:49:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Here's a really good article that addresses what we're all thinking about.

In a minute. I didn't want the long link. Here we go.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/3/22/21187389/minnesota-vikings-offensive-line-considerations


Thanks for all this information, Bruce! It gives me a lot to research while I am stuck at home.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/23/2020 9:29:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: joejitsu

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Here's a really good article that addresses what we're all thinking about.

In a minute. I didn't want the long link. Here we go.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/3/22/21187389/minnesota-vikings-offensive-line-considerations


Thanks for all this information, Bruce! It gives me a lot to research while I am stuck at home.


Thank you for appreciating. I bet there's more than a couple out there who lurk to read, but don't post. I wish they would chime in. I have talked to a number of Vikings fans to join us in the conversation, but have been unsuccessful. Some say they will, but they don't. Therefore, I have to appreciate all the rubes here who do participate.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/23/2020 11:32:24 AM   
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I'm not onboard with this Vikings helmet redesign.

http://definition.org/nfl-helmet-concepts/1/

< Message edited by Bruce Johnson -- 3/23/2020 2:03:33 PM >


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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/23/2020 11:34:22 AM   
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It's slow, but here's a couple of videos to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JqMwZfdPvA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kstVOoMniZI

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/23/2020 2:38:00 PM   
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He would of been a good backup:

Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero
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Traded! The #Panthers sending QB Kyle Allen to the #Redskins, per source.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/24/2020 12:04:09 PM   
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I would send Rudolph/Reiff and Harris to Wash for Williams yesterday. Let them take their pick....I would even throw in a 5th.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/24/2020 12:26:08 PM   
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2020 NFL free agency's best contracts: Cousins extension smart
By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The NFL Editor

Kirk Cousins, quarterback, Minnesota Vikings: It was only a few years ago that folks were chortling over the Vikings' decision to pay Cousins $30 million per year. By the time he gets to the end of the extension he agreed to as this year's free agency period kicked off, the Vikings could be seen as forward-thinking. I like the new two-year, $66 million deal, which is set to go through the 2022 season, for a few reasons. It opens up $10 million in cap space while only adding one additional guaranteed year for Cousins. (The Vikings could get out of the contract after the 2021 season if they wanted.) It also prevents a scenario like the Redskins once faced with Cousins, who was constantly asked about his future with Washington over three consecutive contract years from 2015 to '17, thanks to that team's repeated use of the franchise tag. Minnesota decisively believes that Cousins is a franchise quarterback, so it's better for the Vikings to make a move now rather than wind up paying much more later, like the Cowboys will with Dak Prescott, who had to be tagged this year after reaching the end of his rookie deal without an extension. By the time Cousins reaches the end of this deal, it won't be a surprise if he's outside the top 10 in quarterback salaries.

Nice to hear a non-"way overpaid Cousins contract' quote.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/24/2020 4:47:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

2020 NFL free agency's best contracts: Cousins extension smart
By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The NFL Editor

Kirk Cousins, quarterback, Minnesota Vikings: It was only a few years ago that folks were chortling over the Vikings' decision to pay Cousins $30 million per year. By the time he gets to the end of the extension he agreed to as this year's free agency period kicked off, the Vikings could be seen as forward-thinking. I like the new two-year, $66 million deal, which is set to go through the 2022 season, for a few reasons. It opens up $10 million in cap space while only adding one additional guaranteed year for Cousins. (The Vikings could get out of the contract after the 2021 season if they wanted.) It also prevents a scenario like the Redskins once faced with Cousins, who was constantly asked about his future with Washington over three consecutive contract years from 2015 to '17, thanks to that team's repeated use of the franchise tag. Minnesota decisively believes that Cousins is a franchise quarterback, so it's better for the Vikings to make a move now rather than wind up paying much more later, like the Cowboys will with Dak Prescott, who had to be tagged this year after reaching the end of his rookie deal without an extension. By the time Cousins reaches the end of this deal, it won't be a surprise if he's outside the top 10 in quarterback salaries.

Nice to hear a non-"way overpaid Cousins contract' quote.

Excellent article. This contract gives the Vikings options.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/24/2020 6:37:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

2020 NFL free agency's best contracts: Cousins extension smart
By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The NFL Editor

Kirk Cousins, quarterback, Minnesota Vikings: It was only a few years ago that folks were chortling over the Vikings' decision to pay Cousins $30 million per year. By the time he gets to the end of the extension he agreed to as this year's free agency period kicked off, the Vikings could be seen as forward-thinking. I like the new two-year, $66 million deal, which is set to go through the 2022 season, for a few reasons. It opens up $10 million in cap space while only adding one additional guaranteed year for Cousins. (The Vikings could get out of the contract after the 2021 season if they wanted.) It also prevents a scenario like the Redskins once faced with Cousins, who was constantly asked about his future with Washington over three consecutive contract years from 2015 to '17, thanks to that team's repeated use of the franchise tag. Minnesota decisively believes that Cousins is a franchise quarterback, so it's better for the Vikings to make a move now rather than wind up paying much more later, like the Cowboys will with Dak Prescott, who had to be tagged this year after reaching the end of his rookie deal without an extension. By the time Cousins reaches the end of this deal, it won't be a surprise if he's outside the top 10 in quarterback salaries.

Nice to hear a non-"way overpaid Cousins contract' quote.

Excellent article. This contract gives the Vikings options.


I think that, first of all, Cousins has been well compensated for his quarterback play the past few years. Secondly, I believe he might have become a bit sensitive to all of the talk about how much money he makes. Thirdly, I think he likes Minnesota and would like to settle down here with his growing family. Fourthly, I believe he really wants to win and understands how a franchise quarterback who accepts a "little bit less: (ie. Tom Brady) could help his team win a Super Bowl.

Of course, we would all love to have such a generous salary. "Little bit less" is relative.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/24/2020 8:31:43 PM   
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I wonder how many QBs, or players, really think if they take a few million less that could be the difference to propel them to a Super Bowl victory. Maybe Brady. Always in the hunt anyway, rich wife, replace just one of these street based no-names with a mid-tier guy, etc.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/25/2020 11:25:38 AM   
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I wonder how many QBs, or players, really think if they take a few million less that could be the difference to propel them to a Super Bowl victory. Maybe Brady. Always in the hunt anyway, rich wife, replace just one of these street based no-names with a mid-tier guy, etc.


Why didn't I think to marry a supermodel that is worth $400 million dollars? I wonder if there is a dating app for that. Millionairemodels.com or something like that.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/25/2020 1:22:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: unome

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

I wonder how many QBs, or players, really think if they take a few million less that could be the difference to propel them to a Super Bowl victory. Maybe Brady. Always in the hunt anyway, rich wife, replace just one of these street based no-names with a mid-tier guy, etc.


Why didn't I think to marry a supermodel that is worth $400 million dollars? I wonder if there is a dating app for that. Millionairemodels.com or something like that.

I like the way you think.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/26/2020 3:43:14 PM   
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Thanks to Bruce for the Dustin Baker twitter tip. This one surprised me (a lot), given that Zimmer is often criticized, at least here in the game day thread, for being too conservative when he has the lead:

https://twitter.com/DustBaker/status/1242854625113448448

Since 2015, Top 5 W/L records when team is leading at the end of the 3rd Quarter:

1. Vikings (45-0)
2. Patriots (57-2)
3. Packers (34-1-1)
4. Texans (29-2)
5. Chiefs (49-6)

The Minnesota Vikings are the only undefeated team under these parameters.
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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/26/2020 3:45:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jbusse

Thanks to Bruce for the Dustin Baker twitter tip. This one surprised me (a lot), given that Zimmer is often criticized, at least here in the game day thread, for being too conservative when he has the lead:

https://twitter.com/DustBaker/status/1242854625113448448

Since 2015, Top 5 W/L records when team is leading at the end of the 3rd Quarter:

1. Vikings (45-0)
2. Patriots (57-2)
3. Packers (34-1-1)
4. Texans (29-2)
5. Chiefs (49-6)

The Minnesota Vikings are the only undefeated team under these parameters.

That is amazing.

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