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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/31/2020 3:06:39 PM

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I love it.

Let's get the #1 seed this year.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/31/2020 5:15:00 PM

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Fran Tarkenton sent a message to Kirk Cousins via KFAN:

“Kirk, if you’re listening to this program... Go out there & run more. Buy more time. Give your receivers some time to go because today, being a pocket quarterback only is almost impossible.”

(Sean Norman on Twitter)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/31/2020 6:20:59 PM

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Makes me feel old.

Ed Marinaro, who became a much better actor than a #Vikings running back, turns 70 today.

(Chris Tomasson on Twitter)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 3/31/2020 11:17:59 PM

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BREAKING: The Vikings are trading Anthony Harris and 3rd round pick to the Patriots for Joe Thuney and a 2nd round pick.

Gotta get the April Fools day tweet out of the way. Have a great night.

(Vikings Central on Twitter)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/1/2020 8:00:17 AM

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The Vikings have not been shutout at home since October 7, 1962.

Nice little 57-year streak going.

(Dustin Baker on Twitter)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 12:10:45 AM

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Bisi Johnson has some good qualities, but some limitations. I see him as a third receiver, or even a fourth receiver, but perhaps as is pointed out here he can build upon his rookie season.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/1/21202294/minnesota-vikings-next-man-up-wr-bisi-johnson

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 12:29:44 AM

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Good article here, too. Ludford is the best Vikings writer. (I know I said that before.)

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/3/31/21198962/minnesota-vikings-next-man-up-cb-holton-hill

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 8:06:05 AM

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quote:

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Bisi Johnson has some good qualities, but some limitations. I see him as a third receiver, or even a fourth receiver, but perhaps as is pointed out here he can build upon his rookie season.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/1/21202294/minnesota-vikings-next-man-up-wr-bisi-johnson

He's not a big YAC guy but seems to know how to get open.

If we can find a speed guy(Ruggs, Reagor, Hamler, Mims) in the draft, Theilen, Sharpe, Johnson will get more open looks.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 9:08:06 AM

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Good article here, too. Ludford is the best Vikings writer. (I know I said that before.)

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/3/31/21198962/minnesota-vikings-next-man-up-cb-holton-hill

Love that one of the significant factors in favor of Hill is that the NFL no longer suspends for marijuana use.

Now all he has to do is stay away from the PED's.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 1:56:08 PM

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Receiving Yards thru first 70 games of career:

Terrell Owens = 4,115 yards
Stefon Diggs = 4,623 yards

Rushing Yards thru first 29 games of career:

Marcus Allen: 1,989 yards
Dalvin Cook: 2,104 yards

(Dustin Baker on Twitter)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 2:02:19 PM

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Receiving Yards thru first 90 games of career:

Cris Carter = 3,803 yds
Adam Thielen = 4,315 yds

This *includes* all games that Thielen was predominantly a special teamer.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 2:07:24 PM

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Vikings Tackles/gm over last 20 seasons:

1. Eric Kendricks (7.2)
2. Chad Greenway (7.1)
3. Antoine Winfield (6.2)
4. E.J. Henderson (6.1)
5. Harrison Smith (5.8)
6. Chris Claiborne (5.7)
7. Greg Biekert (5.6)
8. Corey Chavous (5.0)
9. Anthony Barr (4.9)
10. Madieu Williams (4.9)

(Dustin Baker on Twitter)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 2:49:29 PM

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I'm surprised that Hunter is not higher on this list.

Most defensive pressures in 2019 via Pro Football Reference:

T.J. Watt: 59
Aaron Donald: 55
Joey Bosa: 54
Shaquil Barrett: 51
Za'Darius Smith: 50
Cam Jordan: 49
Nick Bosa, Khalil Mack: 45
Markus Golden: 44
Chandler Jones: 40
Josh Allen: 39
Von Miller: 37
Danielle Hunter: 36

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 2:50:50 PM

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quote:

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I'm surprised that Hunter is not higher on this list.

Most defensive pressures in 2019 via Pro Football Reference:

T.J. Watt: 59
Aaron Donald: 55
Joey Bosa: 54
Shaquil Barrett: 51
Za'Darius Smith: 50
Cam Jordan: 49
Nick Bosa, Khalil Mack: 45
Markus Golden: 44
Chandler Jones: 40
Josh Allen: 39
Von Miller: 37
Danielle Hunter: 36

(Johnny Kinsley on Twitter)

Compare his sacks to the guys on this list. When he got there he sealed the deal.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 4:51:52 PM

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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm surprised that Hunter is not higher on this list.

Most defensive pressures in 2019 via Pro Football Reference:

T.J. Watt: 59
Aaron Donald: 55
Joey Bosa: 54
Shaquil Barrett: 51
Za'Darius Smith: 50
Cam Jordan: 49
Nick Bosa, Khalil Mack: 45
Markus Golden: 44
Chandler Jones: 40
Josh Allen: 39
Von Miller: 37
Danielle Hunter: 36

(Johnny Kinsley on Twitter)

Compare his sacks to the guys on this list. When he got there he sealed the deal.

You make a really good point. Nevertheless,. I think there is value to disrupting a play with a pressure. Sometimes an interception is the result.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 5:07:21 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm surprised that Hunter is not higher on this list.

Most defensive pressures in 2019 via Pro Football Reference:

T.J. Watt: 59
Aaron Donald: 55
Joey Bosa: 54
Shaquil Barrett: 51
Za'Darius Smith: 50
Cam Jordan: 49
Nick Bosa, Khalil Mack: 45
Markus Golden: 44
Chandler Jones: 40
Josh Allen: 39
Von Miller: 37
Danielle Hunter: 36

(Johnny Kinsley on Twitter)

Compare his sacks to the guys on this list. When he got there he sealed the deal.

You make a really good point. Nevertheless,. I think there is value to disrupting a play with a pressure. Sometimes an interception is the result.

Hunter is well rounded. Plays run and pass well.

Check out his tackle numbers compared to the top pressure guys. Probably 20 more tackles on the average.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 5:14:32 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm surprised that Hunter is not higher on this list.

Most defensive pressures in 2019 via Pro Football Reference:

T.J. Watt: 59
Aaron Donald: 55
Joey Bosa: 54
Shaquil Barrett: 51
Za'Darius Smith: 50
Cam Jordan: 49
Nick Bosa, Khalil Mack: 45
Markus Golden: 44
Chandler Jones: 40
Josh Allen: 39
Von Miller: 37
Danielle Hunter: 36

(Johnny Kinsley on Twitter)

Compare his sacks to the guys on this list. When he got there he sealed the deal.

You make a really good point. Nevertheless,. I think there is value to disrupting a play with a pressure. Sometimes an interception is the result.

Getting pressures is good of course, but a lot of TD passes have been thrown when the QB was pressured. Nothing good has ever happened for the Offense when a QB is sacked.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 5:47:17 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm surprised that Hunter is not higher on this list.

Most defensive pressures in 2019 via Pro Football Reference:

T.J. Watt: 59
Aaron Donald: 55
Joey Bosa: 54
Shaquil Barrett: 51
Za'Darius Smith: 50
Cam Jordan: 49
Nick Bosa, Khalil Mack: 45
Markus Golden: 44
Chandler Jones: 40
Josh Allen: 39
Von Miller: 37
Danielle Hunter: 36

(Johnny Kinsley on Twitter)

They must have a different definition of a pressure (Pro Football Focus vs Pro Football Reference).

Danielle Hunter QB pressures
71 — According to Pro Football Focus, Danielle Hunter leads the NFL with 71 total quarterback pressures. The defensive end is on pace for 100-plus pressures in 2019 and become only the third player to achieve that feat since 2006 (Tamba Hall in 2010, Von Miller in 2015).Nov 20, 2019

https://www.vikings.com/news/vikings-numbers-of-note-at-the-bye-hunter-leads-nfl-in-qb-pressures

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 6:43:56 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pager

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I'm surprised that Hunter is not higher on this list.

Most defensive pressures in 2019 via Pro Football Reference:

T.J. Watt: 59
Aaron Donald: 55
Joey Bosa: 54
Shaquil Barrett: 51
Za'Darius Smith: 50
Cam Jordan: 49
Nick Bosa, Khalil Mack: 45
Markus Golden: 44
Chandler Jones: 40
Josh Allen: 39
Von Miller: 37
Danielle Hunter: 36

(Johnny Kinsley on Twitter)

They must have a different definition of a pressure (Pro Football Focus vs Pro Football Reference).

Danielle Hunter QB pressures
71 — According to Pro Football Focus, Danielle Hunter leads the NFL with 71 total quarterback pressures. The defensive end is on pace for 100-plus pressures in 2019 and become only the third player to achieve that feat since 2006 (Tamba Hall in 2010, Von Miller in 2015).Nov 20, 2019

https://www.vikings.com/news/vikings-numbers-of-note-at-the-bye-hunter-leads-nfl-in-qb-pressures

The plot thickens.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 11:37:51 PM

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I hadn't thought of Udoh playing LG, but Ludford suggests it.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/2/21203427/minnesota-vikings-next-man-up-ol-oli-udoh

< Message edited by Bruce Johnson -- 4/2/2020 11:39:36 PM >

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/2/2020 11:41:03 PM

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I hadn't thought of Udoh playing LG, but Ludford suggests it.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/2/21203427/minnesota-vikings-next-man-up-ol-oli-udoh

Took your advice and went to Ludford's twitter. Really good stuff.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 12:41:58 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I hadn't thought of Udoh playing LG, but Ludford suggests it.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/2/21203427/minnesota-vikings-next-man-up-ol-oli-udoh

Took your advice and went to Ludford's twitter. Really good stuff.

I've made some friends there at Twitter, but also enemies including a writer associated with the U of M. She took umbrage with what I thought was a rather harmless comment. Nothing beats this place when it is active, but that is an if sometimes.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 7:36:23 AM

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I hadn't thought of Udoh playing LG, but Ludford suggests it.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/2/21203427/minnesota-vikings-next-man-up-ol-oli-udoh

Took your advice and went to Ludford's twitter. Really good stuff.

I was beaten back a bit for penciling in Udoh at G. It was based on drafting a T then taking the leap to get his talent out there. The suggestion is he could dominate a LG.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 8:02:36 AM

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quote:

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I hadn't thought of Udoh playing LG, but Ludford suggests it.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/2/21203427/minnesota-vikings-next-man-up-ol-oli-udoh

Took your advice and went to Ludford's twitter. Really good stuff.

I was beaten back a bit for penciling in Udoh at G. It was based on drafting a T then taking the leap to get his talent out there. The suggestion is he could dominate a LG.

I'm a Udoh fan. Get him out there.

But, have a good back up plan if he isn't ready.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 8:03:35 AM

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I hadn't thought of Udoh playing LG, but Ludford suggests it.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/2/21203427/minnesota-vikings-next-man-up-ol-oli-udoh

Took your advice and went to Ludford's twitter. Really good stuff.

I was beaten back a bit for penciling in Udoh at G. It was based on drafting a T then taking the leap to get his talent out there. The suggestion is he could dominate a LG.

I would be more concerned with Samia than Udoh. Unless he(Samia) got a lot stronger this off season.

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