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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 8:24:00 AM

Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I hadn't thought of Udoh playing LG, but Ludford suggests it.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/2/21203427/minnesota-vikings-next-man-up-ol-oli-udoh

Took your advice and went to Ludford's twitter. Really good stuff.

I was beaten back a bit for penciling in Udoh at G. It was based on drafting a T then taking the leap to get his talent out there. The suggestion is he could dominate a LG.

I would be more concerned with Samia than Udoh. Unless he(Samia) got a lot stronger this off season.

The Vikings must have their fingers on the pulse of their players during the off-season and a sense for how they are developing. I would hope so, at least.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 8:39:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I hadn't thought of Udoh playing LG, but Ludford suggests it.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/2/21203427/minnesota-vikings-next-man-up-ol-oli-udoh

Took your advice and went to Ludford's twitter. Really good stuff.

I've made some friends there at Twitter, but also enemies including a writer associated with the U of M. She took umbrage with what I thought was a rather harmless comment. Nothing beats this place when it is active, but that is an if sometimes.

Sometimes they don't like it when you make comments about their ass. Go figure.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 9:12:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

I hadn't thought of Udoh playing LG, but Ludford suggests it.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/2/21203427/minnesota-vikings-next-man-up-ol-oli-udoh

Took your advice and went to Ludford's twitter. Really good stuff.

I was beaten back a bit for penciling in Udoh at G. It was based on drafting a T then taking the leap to get his talent out there. The suggestion is he could dominate a LG.

I would be more concerned with Samia than Udoh. Unless he(Samia) got a lot stronger this off season.

I went back and watched some Bears/Vikings week 17 where Udoh and Samia played quite a bit.

The things that jumped out at me:
1) Udoh has the strength to play. He played LT and was matched up against Khalil Mack and held his own. On running plays he gets push. Goalline he plowed a path and the RB followed him right into the endzone.
In pass pro, his footwork is sketchy.

2) Samia was getting pushed around a bit. Would win occasionally but had a much harder time moving his man.

3) Elflein was just getting manhandled. Don't think he has the strength to play guard.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 9:23:30 AM

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Amari Cooper gets 5/100-----60 million guaranteed from Cowboys......lol

Rex Ryan's thoughts:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1246067165415051264

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 9:33:04 AM

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Amari Cooper gets 5/100-----60 million guaranteed from Cowboys......lol

Rex Ryan's thoughts:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1246067165415051264

And now they can't afford to pay Dak to throw him the ball

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 10:21:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Amari Cooper gets 5/100-----60 million guaranteed from Cowboys......lol

Rex Ryan's thoughts:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1246067165415051264

Wow. That's a lot of money, and dak's not even in the fold yet.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 10:26:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Amari Cooper gets 5/100-----60 million guaranteed from Cowboys......lol

Rex Ryan's thoughts:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1246067165415051264

20ml per....

Rex is right better cb's can shut him down.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 1:50:10 PM

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Harrison Smith has played in 114 games.

Comparison thru first 114 games of career:

Troy Polamalu:
571 Tackles
27 INT
9 Sacks
37 Tackle for Loss
8 QB Hits
8 Forced Fumbles
4 TD

Harrison Smith:
659 Tackles
23 INT
13 Sacks
37 Tackle for Loss
26 QB Hits
7 Forced Fumbles
4 TD

(Dustin Baker on Twitter)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 2:02:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Harrison Smith has played in 114 games.

Comparison thru first 114 games of career:

Troy Polamalu:
571 Tackles
27 INT
9 Sacks
37 Tackle for Loss
8 QB Hits
8 Forced Fumbles
4 TD

Harrison Smith:
659 Tackles
23 INT
13 Sacks
37 Tackle for Loss
26 QB Hits
7 Forced Fumbles
4 TD

(Dustin Baker on Twitter)

HOF

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 4:52:08 PM

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My wife is pretty good at sewing and she is making by hand face masks. Many of her fellow employees at Walmart are coming to her and she makes them for them at no cost. She also gives them away to certain elderly customers whom she has compassion for .

I've told her not to bother making one for me, but she is insisting. She had a big smile on her face as she was explaining that I have to accept it from her. Get this. She bought material for her project and it will be a Vikings face mask! I had to laugh. I will be the envy of everyone at work.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 5:21:44 PM

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My wife is pretty good at sewing and she is making by hand face masks. Many of her fellow employees at Walmart are coming to her and she makes them for them at no cost. She also gives them away to certain elderly customers whom she has compassion for .

I've told her not to bother making one for me, but she is insisting. She had a big smile on her face as she was explaining that I have to accept it from her. Get this. She bought material for her project and it will be a Vikings face mask! I had to laugh. I will be the envy of everyone at work.

NICE!!

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 6:14:53 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Harrison Smith has played in 114 games.

Comparison thru first 114 games of career:

Troy Polamalu:
571 Tackles
27 INT
9 Sacks
37 Tackle for Loss
8 QB Hits
8 Forced Fumbles
4 TD

Harrison Smith:
659 Tackles
23 INT
13 Sacks
37 Tackle for Loss
26 QB Hits
7 Forced Fumbles
4 TD

(Dustin Baker on Twitter)

HOF

And he’s a coach on the field. Dude is on his own level on the field. He’s half the reason I want to see the games in person. Watching him prior to the snap is one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/3/2020 6:23:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

My wife is pretty good at sewing and she is making by hand face masks. Many of her fellow employees at Walmart are coming to her and she makes them for them at no cost. She also gives them away to certain elderly customers whom she has compassion for .

I've told her not to bother making one for me, but she is insisting. She had a big smile on her face as she was explaining that I have to accept it from her. Get this. She bought material for her project and it will be a Vikings face mask! I had to laugh. I will be the envy of everyone at work.

That's a great lady, my friend. Wear the Vikings face mask with pride. I've already lost two of my clients to this stupid virus, so everyone please be careful out there.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/4/2020 12:02:36 AM

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Amari Cooper gets 5/100-----60 million guaranteed from Cowboys......lol

Rex Ryan's thoughts:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1246067165415051264

And now they can't afford to pay Dak to throw him the ball

They can still afford Dak.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/4/2020 1:07:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Amari Cooper gets 5/100-----60 million guaranteed from Cowboys......lol

Rex Ryan's thoughts:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1246067165415051264

And now they can't afford to pay Dak to throw him the ball

They can still afford Dak.

I wasn't being totally serious.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/5/2020 7:51:59 AM

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Most games in 2019 in which offensive line surrendered one sack or less. Something to think about. However, I bet those five games where more than one sack was allowed were mostly, if not all losses.

1. Minnesota Vikings (11)
t2. Kansas City Chiefs (10)
t2. Dallas Cowboys (10)
t2. Baltimore Ravens (10)
t2. New Orleans Saints (10)
6. Los Angeles Rams (9)

(Dustin Baker on Twitter)

The teams tied for second had a more mobile QB. (For the Saints I'm thinking Teddy.)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/5/2020 8:45:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Most games in 2019 in which offensive line surrendered one sack or less. Something to think about. However, I bet those five games where more than one sack was allowed were mostly, if not all losses.

1. Minnesota Vikings (11)
t2. Kansas City Chiefs (10)
t2. Dallas Cowboys (10)
t2. Baltimore Ravens (10)
t2. New Orleans Saints (10)
6. Los Angeles Rams (9)

(Dustin Baker on Twitter)

The teams tied for second had a more mobile QB. (For the Saints I'm thinking Teddy.)

Very interesting. We still consider our O line to be very poor, but some of the stats conflict with that narrative. The more mobile a QB is the more they tend to get sacked is the way it usually is.

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/5/2020 11:06:21 AM

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Yards-After-Catch per completion, 2019:

Patrick Mahomes = 6.1 yds
Kirk Cousins = 5.8 yds

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/5/2020 11:10:08 AM

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Fewest 2019 QB Scrambles per pass attempt, % --

1. Drew Brees (0.0%)
2. Tom Brady (0.5%)
3. Philip Rivers (1.0%)
4. Jared Goff (1.6%)
5. Sam Darnold (1.8%)
6. Andy Dalton (1.9%)
7. Kirk Cousins (2.0%)
8. Jimmy Garoppolo (2.5%)
9. Derek Carr (2.7%)
10. Baker Mayfield (3.2%)

Least Blitzed QBs by %, 2019:
(blitzes divided by pass attempts)

1. Philip Rivers (19%)
2. Derek Carr (21%)
3. Patrick Mahomes (22%)
4. Kirk Cousins (24%)
5. Dak Prescott (26%)

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/5/2020 11:11:31 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Fewest 2019 QB Scrambles per pass attempt, % --

1. Drew Brees (0.0%)
2. Tom Brady (0.5%)
3. Philip Rivers (1.0%)
4. Jared Goff (1.6%)
5. Sam Darnold (1.8%)
6. Andy Dalton (1.9%)
7. Kirk Cousins (2.0%)
8. Jimmy Garoppolo (2.5%)
9. Derek Carr (2.7%)
10. Baker Mayfield (3.2%)

Least Blitzed QBs by %, 2019:
(blitzes divided by pass attempts)

1. Philip Rivers (19%)
2. Derek Carr (21%)
3. Patrick Mahomes (22%)
4. Kirk Cousins (24%)
5. Dak Prescott (26%)

(Dustin Baker on Twitter)

Brees NEVER scrambled? Not even once?

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/5/2020 11:19:07 AM

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The question is whether Odenigbo will be ready to be a solid starter this season. I say yes- that we don't need to draft in the first round a starting edge rusher. I would like to see Anthony Barr being given more opportunities to rush the passer too. I know that we say that every year, but I have a hunch that this season it will happen.

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2020/4/4/21206289/vikings-next-man-up-dl-ifeadi-odenigbo?utm_campaign=wludford&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/5/2020 11:27:52 AM

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Touches per game as a Viking:

Adrian Peterson = 21.6 touch/gm
Dalvin Cook = 19.3 touch/gm

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/5/2020 11:37:09 AM

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I link this just because it's slow.

https://vikingsterritory.com/2020/general-news/vikingstradeforodellbeckhamjr

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/5/2020 12:18:00 PM

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https://www.vikings.com/video/sharpe-discusses-challenging-for-no-2-wr-spot-why-the-vikings-were-a-fit-for-him

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RE: General Vikes Talk - 4/5/2020 1:26:34 PM

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How is the NFL draft an item of concern or interest to anyone in lieu of where we are with our socio-economic and health situation in its current state. We may very well be in line for a depression even greater than that of the 1930's and the NFL draft is even worth mentioning?

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