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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Former Vikings cornerback in contract limbo with the Bengals

https://thevikingage.com/2020/07/03/minnesota-vikings-trae-waynes-contract-bengals/

Waynes has yet to sign due to NFL rules about physicals ect. Idk if any other FA's are in the same boat or it's just the Bengals being cheap.

Edit: this is the source and better link

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/07/02/coronavirus-trae-waynes-free-agent-contracts?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

No PS games might be a huge mistake. Players normally don't go full speed in practice. The PS games gives them a chance to work their way up to full games gradually.

So w/o PS games there could be more injuries as well as some seriously sloppy football.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is a tweet from Tom Pelissero with the timeline the players association is advocating before the season begins.

With the NFLPA still opposed to preseason games, one possible camp schedule the union has discussed:

3 days: medical/equipment
21 days: strength & conditioning
10 days: unpadded practice
14 days: practice (10 max/8 padded)

Then it’d be straight into Week 1.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is a tweet from Tom Pelissero with the timeline the players association is advocating before the season begins.

With the NFLPA still opposed to preseason games, one possible camp schedule the union has discussed:

3 days: medical/equipment
21 days: strength & conditioning
10 days: unpadded practice
14 days: practice (10 max/8 padded)

Then it’d be straight into Week 1.

a total of eight practices with pads? and no preseason games...these guys are going to be out of gas by the second quarter....

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is a tweet from Tom Pelissero with the timeline the players association is advocating before the season begins.

With the NFLPA still opposed to preseason games, one possible camp schedule the union has discussed:

3 days: medical/equipment
21 days: strength & conditioning
10 days: unpadded practice
14 days: practice (10 max/8 padded)

Then it’d be straight into Week 1.

a total of eight practices with pads? and no preseason games...these guys are going to be out of gas by the second quarter....

The next update is the 20-21 season will be no blocking, no tackle, passing only offenses, with flag tackles.

Flag belts will encircle the player and have at least 5 flags around all players midsection.

The football will be scrubbed with hand sanitizer, by the designated football scrubbing official, who will signal when ready to play between snaps.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is a tweet from Tom Pelissero with the timeline the players association is advocating before the season begins.

With the NFLPA still opposed to preseason games, one possible camp schedule the union has discussed:

3 days: medical/equipment
21 days: strength & conditioning
10 days: unpadded practice
14 days: practice (10 max/8 padded)

Then it’d be straight into Week 1.

a total of eight practices with pads? and no preseason games...these guys are going to be out of gas by the second quarter....

The next update is the 20-21 season will be no blocking, no tackle, passing only offenses, with flag tackles.

Flag belts will encircle the player and have at least 5 flags around all players midsection.

The football will be scrubbed with hand sanitizer, by the designated football scrubbing official, who will signal when ready to play between snaps.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is a tweet from Tom Pelissero with the timeline the players association is advocating before the season begins.

With the NFLPA still opposed to preseason games, one possible camp schedule the union has discussed:

3 days: medical/equipment
21 days: strength & conditioning
10 days: unpadded practice
14 days: practice (10 max/8 padded)

Then it’d be straight into Week 1.

a total of eight practices with pads? and no preseason games...these guys are going to be out of gas by the second quarter....

The next update is the 20-21 season will be no blocking, no tackle, passing only offenses, with flag tackles.

Flag belts will encircle the player and have at least 5 flags around all players midsection.

The football will be scrubbed with hand sanitizer, by the designated football scrubbing official, who will signal when ready to play between snaps.

I truly believe Sendejo had it right. Make Football Violent Again. If they truly want to make it more safe they would go to flag football. It's hypocrisy playing tackle football, but requiring gentle tackling.

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is a tweet from Tom Pelissero with the timeline the players association is advocating before the season begins.

With the NFLPA still opposed to preseason games, one possible camp schedule the union has discussed:

3 days: medical/equipment
21 days: strength & conditioning
10 days: unpadded practice
14 days: practice (10 max/8 padded)

Then it’d be straight into Week 1.

a total of eight practices with pads? and no preseason games...these guys are going to be out of gas by the second quarter....

The next update is the 20-21 season will be no blocking, no tackle, passing only offenses, with flag tackles.

Flag belts will encircle the player and have at least 5 flags around all players midsection.

The football will be scrubbed with hand sanitizer, by the designated football scrubbing official, who will signal when ready to play between snaps.

I truly believe Sendejo had it right. Make Football Violent Again. If they truly want to make it more safe they would go to flag football. It's hypocrisy playing tackle football, but requiring gentle tackling.

Football is still incredibly violent. The size and athleticism of the players is a double-edged sword in that they generate unbelievable force with the speed that even the big players reach. The 'nasty' players from the 70's would get obliterated by today's players. The only way to bring back what some describe 'old school football' or 'violent football' would be to only allow players of average speed and size. Then they could all collide with each other all season long and casual fans could celebrate the return of 'real football'.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is a tweet from Tom Pelissero with the timeline the players association is advocating before the season begins.

With the NFLPA still opposed to preseason games, one possible camp schedule the union has discussed:

3 days: medical/equipment
21 days: strength & conditioning
10 days: unpadded practice
14 days: practice (10 max/8 padded)

Then it’d be straight into Week 1.

a total of eight practices with pads? and no preseason games...these guys are going to be out of gas by the second quarter....

The next update is the 20-21 season will be no blocking, no tackle, passing only offenses, with flag tackles.

Flag belts will encircle the player and have at least 5 flags around all players midsection.

The football will be scrubbed with hand sanitizer, by the designated football scrubbing official, who will signal when ready to play between snaps.

I truly believe Sendejo had it right. Make Football Violent Again. If they truly want to make it more safe they would go to flag football. It's hypocrisy playing tackle football, but requiring gentle tackling.

Football is still incredibly violent. The size and athleticism of the players is a double-edged sword in that they generate unbelievable force with the speed that even the big players reach. The 'nasty' players from the 70's would get obliterated by today's players. The only way to bring back what some describe 'old school football' or 'violent football' would be to only allow players of average speed and size. Then they could all collide with each other all season long and casual fans could celebrate the return of 'real football'.

Earl Campbell would have plenty of success against today's players. They would go for the knock out blow and not wrap up and he would still be running.

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is a tweet from Tom Pelissero with the timeline the players association is advocating before the season begins.

With the NFLPA still opposed to preseason games, one possible camp schedule the union has discussed:

3 days: medical/equipment
21 days: strength & conditioning
10 days: unpadded practice
14 days: practice (10 max/8 padded)

Then it’d be straight into Week 1.

a total of eight practices with pads? and no preseason games...these guys are going to be out of gas by the second quarter....

The next update is the 20-21 season will be no blocking, no tackle, passing only offenses, with flag tackles.

Flag belts will encircle the player and have at least 5 flags around all players midsection.

The football will be scrubbed with hand sanitizer, by the designated football scrubbing official, who will signal when ready to play between snaps.

I truly believe Sendejo had it right. Make Football Violent Again. If they truly want to make it more safe they would go to flag football. It's hypocrisy playing tackle football, but requiring gentle tackling.

Football is still incredibly violent. The size and athleticism of the players is a double-edged sword in that they generate unbelievable force with the speed that even the big players reach. The 'nasty' players from the 70's would get obliterated by today's players. The only way to bring back what some describe 'old school football' or 'violent football' would be to only allow players of average speed and size. Then they could all collide with each other all season long and casual fans could celebrate the return of 'real football'.

Earl Campbell would have plenty of success against today's players. They would go for the knock out blow and not wrap up and he would still be running.

He'd need a modern day O-line in front of him or they would need an ambulance that was big enough for him and five small-by-today's-standards O-linemen.

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is a tweet from Tom Pelissero with the timeline the players association is advocating before the season begins.

With the NFLPA still opposed to preseason games, one possible camp schedule the union has discussed:

3 days: medical/equipment
21 days: strength & conditioning
10 days: unpadded practice
14 days: practice (10 max/8 padded)

Then it’d be straight into Week 1.

a total of eight practices with pads? and no preseason games...these guys are going to be out of gas by the second quarter....

The next update is the 20-21 season will be no blocking, no tackle, passing only offenses, with flag tackles.

Flag belts will encircle the player and have at least 5 flags around all players midsection.

The football will be scrubbed with hand sanitizer, by the designated football scrubbing official, who will signal when ready to play between snaps.

I truly believe Sendejo had it right. Make Football Violent Again. If they truly want to make it more safe they would go to flag football. It's hypocrisy playing tackle football, but requiring gentle tackling.

Football is still incredibly violent. The size and athleticism of the players is a double-edged sword in that they generate unbelievable force with the speed that even the big players reach. The 'nasty' players from the 70's would get obliterated by today's players. The only way to bring back what some describe 'old school football' or 'violent football' would be to only allow players of average speed and size. Then they could all collide with each other all season long and casual fans could celebrate the return of 'real football'.

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

In the NFL, quarterbacks are bigger than ever. How big? At 6-foot-5 and 250 pounds, Cam Newton is bigger than most offensive linemen in the 1960s.

Of course, nowadays, offensive linemen are much bigger than that. The average guard, tackle, or center in the NFL in 2011 is 6-foot-5 and about 310 pounds.

Of the 170 players that have started at least one game as an offensive lineman this season, only 28 weigh less than 300 pounds.

To put the sizes in perspective, let's compare the average size for an offensive lineman through the years to an active player (all data via Pro-Football-Reference.com).


In the 1920s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-0, 211 pounds.

In the 1930s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-1, 220 pounds.

In the 1940s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-1, 221 pounds.

In the 1950s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-2, 234 pounds.

In the 1960s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-3, 251 pounds.

In the 1970s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-3, 255 pounds.

In the 1980s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 272 pounds.

In the 1990s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 300 pounds.

In the 2000s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 313 pounds.

In 2011, the average offensive lineman is 6-foot-5, 310 pounds.

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

In the NFL, quarterbacks are bigger than ever. How big? At 6-foot-5 and 250 pounds, Cam Newton is bigger than most offensive linemen in the 1960s.

Of course, nowadays, offensive linemen are much bigger than that. The average guard, tackle, or center in the NFL in 2011 is 6-foot-5 and about 310 pounds.

Of the 170 players that have started at least one game as an offensive lineman this season, only 28 weigh less than 300 pounds.

To put the sizes in perspective, let's compare the average size for an offensive lineman through the years to an active player (all data via Pro-Football-Reference.com).


In the 1920s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-0, 211 pounds.

In the 1930s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-1, 220 pounds.

In the 1940s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-1, 221 pounds.

In the 1950s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-2, 234 pounds.

In the 1960s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-3, 251 pounds.

In the 1970s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-3, 255 pounds.

In the 1980s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 272 pounds.

In the 1990s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 300 pounds.

In the 2000s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 313 pounds.

In 2011, the average offensive lineman is 6-foot-5, 310 pounds.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

quote:

ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

This is a tweet from Tom Pelissero with the timeline the players association is advocating before the season begins.

With the NFLPA still opposed to preseason games, one possible camp schedule the union has discussed:

3 days: medical/equipment
21 days: strength & conditioning
10 days: unpadded practice
14 days: practice (10 max/8 padded)

Then it’d be straight into Week 1.

a total of eight practices with pads? and no preseason games...these guys are going to be out of gas by the second quarter....

The next update is the 20-21 season will be no blocking, no tackle, passing only offenses, with flag tackles.

Flag belts will encircle the player and have at least 5 flags around all players midsection.

The football will be scrubbed with hand sanitizer, by the designated football scrubbing official, who will signal when ready to play between snaps.

I truly believe Sendejo had it right. Make Football Violent Again. If they truly want to make it more safe they would go to flag football. It's hypocrisy playing tackle football, but requiring gentle tackling.

Football is still incredibly violent. The size and athleticism of the players is a double-edged sword in that they generate unbelievable force with the speed that even the big players reach. The 'nasty' players from the 70's would get obliterated by today's players. The only way to bring back what some describe 'old school football' or 'violent football' would be to only allow players of average speed and size. Then they could all collide with each other all season long and casual fans could celebrate the return of 'real football'.

Earl Campbell would have plenty of success against today's players. They would go for the knock out blow and not wrap up and he would still be running.

He'd need a modern day O-line in front of him or they would need an ambulance that was big enough for him and five small-by-today's-standards O-linemen.

Yeah. He wouldn't have many holes running behind 270 pound OLineman.

But, I also think that if you could somehow switch Kendricks and Matt Blair in some kind of time machine, Blair would become like today's athletes and Kendricks would not have become as big and fast. The training is just different these days.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

In the NFL, quarterbacks are bigger than ever. How big? At 6-foot-5 and 250 pounds, Cam Newton is bigger than most offensive linemen in the 1960s.

Of course, nowadays, offensive linemen are much bigger than that. The average guard, tackle, or center in the NFL in 2011 is 6-foot-5 and about 310 pounds.

Of the 170 players that have started at least one game as an offensive lineman this season, only 28 weigh less than 300 pounds.

To put the sizes in perspective, let's compare the average size for an offensive lineman through the years to an active player (all data via Pro-Football-Reference.com).


In the 1920s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-0, 211 pounds.

In the 1930s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-1, 220 pounds.

In the 1940s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-1, 221 pounds.

In the 1950s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-2, 234 pounds.

In the 1960s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-3, 251 pounds.

In the 1970s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-3, 255 pounds.

In the 1980s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 272 pounds.

In the 1990s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 300 pounds.

In the 2000s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 313 pounds.

In 2011, the average offensive lineman is 6-foot-5, 310 pounds.

remember when William 'the refrigerator' perry was considered a freak at 325lbs?...if i remember correctly he was only 6-1 and could dunk a basketball ---- he was, and still is, considered a freak of nature....

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

Former Vikings cornerback in contract limbo with the Bengals

https://thevikingage.com/2020/07/03/minnesota-vikings-trae-waynes-contract-bengals/

Waynes has yet to sign due to NFL rules about physicals ect. Idk if any other FA's are in the same boat or it's just the Bengals being cheap.

Edit: this is the source and better link

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/07/02/coronavirus-trae-waynes-free-agent-contracts?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

In the NFL, quarterbacks are bigger than ever. How big? At 6-foot-5 and 250 pounds, Cam Newton is bigger than most offensive linemen in the 1960s.

Of course, nowadays, offensive linemen are much bigger than that. The average guard, tackle, or center in the NFL in 2011 is 6-foot-5 and about 310 pounds.

Of the 170 players that have started at least one game as an offensive lineman this season, only 28 weigh less than 300 pounds.

To put the sizes in perspective, let's compare the average size for an offensive lineman through the years to an active player (all data via Pro-Football-Reference.com).


In the 1920s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-0, 211 pounds.

In the 1930s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-1, 220 pounds.

In the 1940s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-1, 221 pounds.

In the 1950s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-2, 234 pounds.

In the 1960s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-3, 251 pounds.

In the 1970s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-3, 255 pounds.

In the 1980s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 272 pounds.

In the 1990s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 300 pounds.

In the 2000s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 313 pounds.

In 2011, the average offensive lineman is 6-foot-5, 310 pounds.

So in the 2000s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 313 pounds.

In 2011, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-5, 310 pounds. Taller, yet lighter than "the 2000s". An anomaly, or has the direction shifted, or has it plateaued?

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

In the NFL, quarterbacks are bigger than ever. How big? At 6-foot-5 and 250 pounds, Cam Newton is bigger than most offensive linemen in the 1960s.

Of course, nowadays, offensive linemen are much bigger than that. The average guard, tackle, or center in the NFL in 2011 is 6-foot-5 and about 310 pounds.

Of the 170 players that have started at least one game as an offensive lineman this season, only 28 weigh less than 300 pounds.

To put the sizes in perspective, let's compare the average size for an offensive lineman through the years to an active player (all data via Pro-Football-Reference.com).


In the 1920s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-0, 211 pounds.

In the 1930s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-1, 220 pounds.

In the 1940s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-1, 221 pounds.

In the 1950s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-2, 234 pounds.

In the 1960s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-3, 251 pounds.

In the 1970s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-3, 255 pounds.

In the 1980s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 272 pounds.

In the 1990s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 300 pounds.

In the 2000s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 313 pounds.

In 2011, the average offensive lineman is 6-foot-5, 310 pounds.

So in the 2000s, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-4, 313 pounds.

In 2011, the average offensive lineman was 6-foot-5, 310 pounds. Taller, yet lighter than "the 2000s". An anomaly, or has the direction shifted, or has it plateaued?

Those numbers were compiled in 2011 so 2011 was a single season being compared to decades. A poor choice to end the segment with.