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Garoppolo. You must be thinking of Janeane.

Garoppolo wouldn't ease our cap situation. Even if we wait until June, trading Cousins will saddle us with $21 million in dead cap money.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Garoppolo. You must be thinking of Janeane.

Garoppolo wouldn't ease our cap situation. Even if we wait until June, trading Cousins will saddle us with $21 million in dead cap money.

Well, 21 is better than 41....


Just sayin


But it was probably a bad idea anyway.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Garoppolo. You must be thinking of Janeane.

Garoppolo wouldn't ease our cap situation. Even if we wait until June, trading Cousins will saddle us with $21 million in dead cap money.

Well, 21 is better than 41....


Just sayin


But it was probably a bad idea anyway.

21 is better than 41, but you still have to pay Garoppolo on top of it.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Garoppolo. You must be thinking of Janeane.

Garoppolo wouldn't ease our cap situation. Even if we wait until June, trading Cousins will saddle us with $21 million in dead cap money.

Well, 21 is better than 41....


Just sayin


But it was probably a bad idea anyway.

21 is better than 41, but you still have to pay Garoppolo on top of it.

So Watson makes even less sense.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Garoppolo. You must be thinking of Janeane.

Garoppolo wouldn't ease our cap situation. Even if we wait until June, trading Cousins will saddle us with $21 million in dead cap money.

Well, 21 is better than 41....


Just sayin


But it was probably a bad idea anyway.

21 is better than 41, but you still have to pay Garoppolo on top of it.

So Watson makes even less sense.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Garoppolo. You must be thinking of Janeane.

Garoppolo wouldn't ease our cap situation. Even if we wait until June, trading Cousins will saddle us with $21 million in dead cap money.

Well, 21 is better than 41....


Just sayin


But it was probably a bad idea anyway.

21 is better than 41, but you still have to pay Garoppolo on top of it.

So Watson makes even less sense.

No, all bets are off when it comes to Watson. He is that elite, top tier, young franchise QB that everyone covets. Bite whatever bullets and spend whatever assets you have to in order to get him and figure out the rest after.

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Garoppolo. You must be thinking of Janeane.

Garoppolo wouldn't ease our cap situation. Even if we wait until June, trading Cousins will saddle us with $21 million in dead cap money.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Garoppolo. You must be thinking of Janeane.

Garoppolo wouldn't ease our cap situation. Even if we wait until June, trading Cousins will saddle us with $21 million in dead cap money.

Well, 21 is better than 41....


Just sayin


But it was probably a bad idea anyway.

21 is better than 41, but you still have to pay Garoppolo on top of it.

So Watson makes even less sense.

No, all bets are off when it comes to Watson. He is that elite, top tier, young franchise QB that everyone covets. Bite whatever bullets and spend whatever assets you have to in order to get him and figure out the rest after.

As good as Watson is, it would require us to dump a bunch of other important players just to fit him under the cap and include the Cousins hit etc.... that plus the loss of draft picks would probably be too much for Deshaun Watsons talent to make up for all by himself.

I just don't see how they can maneuver it to get Watson in here and not decimate the rest of the team in the process to do it.

If it was just about draft picks, I wouldn't have a problem, but our salary cap situation makes getting Watson seem unmanagemable.

It's not that I don't want him. I would love to get him. But I just don't see how we can pull it off without ****ing the rest of the team.

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Garoppolo. You must be thinking of Janeane.

Garoppolo wouldn't ease our cap situation. Even if we wait until June, trading Cousins will saddle us with $21 million in dead cap money.

You keep saying $21 million but the fact is you end up having to pay all the dead cap one way or the other. OverTheCap shows $31 M in dead cap after June 1st, I guess because we pay the prorated signing bonus of $10 M this year.

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Considering the asking price, and the cap implications it is pretty much a nonstarter to hope for Watson.

Now Cousins may be coveted by San Francisco...so maybe we can arrange a trade for a couple picks (not on the Watson level) and Jimmy Garafolo?

It's not that I want Garafolo, but it would probably ease our cap situation a bit and give us a little more draft capital to draft his replacement.

Of course that would also have the added requirement of getting a better backup than Mannion cause Jimmy G has a tendency to miss games..

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Wonder if Brad will be reporting on Twitter trends in SoCal.

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Garoppolo. You must be thinking of Janeane.

Garoppolo wouldn't ease our cap situation. Even if we wait until June, trading Cousins will saddle us with $21 million in dead cap money.

You keep saying $21 million but the fact is you end up having to pay all the dead cap one way or the other. OverTheCap shows $31 M in dead cap after June 1st, I guess because we pay the prorated signing bonus of $10 M this year.



The important thing to note here is that June 1 cuts, though they create more cap space in the current year than pre-June 1 cuts (at the expense of creating more dead money in the following year), do not create ANY cap space until after June 1, long after the free agent market for most of the best players has played out. Thus June 1 cuts, which are sometimes represented as an effective tool for creating extra cap space in free agency, are actually all but useless for that purpose, as you cannot access that cap space until after June 1. The only effective salary cap benefit of a June 1 cut is for use in signing draft picks and other late offseason transactions after a team has been tapped out in free agency.

The main things to take away here:

1. The June 1 designation applies to both trades and cuts, but only cuts can get the designation early. Early June 1 designations are limited to two players per team.

2. The June 1 designation does indeed create extra cap space in the current year, but it does so at the expense of the following year’s cap, and the space it creates in the current year cannot be used until after June 1, rendering it all but useless for the purpose of signing free agents.

3. The net cap space created by a June 1 cut versus a pre-June 1 cut is ALWAYS the same; the only difference is in which year(s) the prorated bonus money is counted against the cap. Basically there’s no such thing as a free lunch. You can’t cheat the cap with a June 1 designation, you can just move around a limited amount of prorated bonus money.

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The vast majority of time when a big trade occurs, there are claims among the national networks that they were the first to report it (after the fact). Rarely does anything happen in accordance with what some website or blogger claimed days in advance. The vast majority of time when a big trade occurs, there are claims among the national networks that they were the first to report it (after the fact). Rarely does anything happen in accordance with what some website or blogger claimed days in advance.

I disagree. I haven't been on many of these sites lately, but I think some of these sights have SO much speculation, almost every trade has been discussed by someone, and sometimes several sites had the trade right on the money, or were very close.

It's more like, the number of rumors and speculations is such a vast number, some are bound to get it right. The number of trades that didn't happen, but were talked about, is also quite a large number.

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Vikings have four players selected in ESPN's two-round 2020 redraft:

• Justin Jefferson, taken 9th (originally taken 22nd)
• Cam Dantzler, taken 40th (originally taken 89th)
• Ezra Cleveland, taken 47th (originally taken 58th)
• DJ Wonnum, taken 64th (originally taken 117th)

(Nick Olson on Twitter)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Garoppolo. You must be thinking of Janeane.

Garoppolo wouldn't ease our cap situation. Even if we wait until June, trading Cousins will saddle us with $21 million in dead cap money.

You keep saying $21 million but the fact is you end up having to pay all the dead cap one way or the other. OverTheCap shows $31 M in dead cap after June 1st, I guess because we pay the prorated signing bonus of $10 M this year.



The important thing to note here is that June 1 cuts, though they create more cap space in the current year than pre-June 1 cuts (at the expense of creating more dead money in the following year), do not create ANY cap space until after June 1, long after the free agent market for most of the best players has played out. Thus June 1 cuts, which are sometimes represented as an effective tool for creating extra cap space in free agency, are actually all but useless for that purpose, as you cannot access that cap space until after June 1. The only effective salary cap benefit of a June 1 cut is for use in signing draft picks and other late offseason transactions after a team has been tapped out in free agency.

The main things to take away here:

1. The June 1 designation applies to both trades and cuts, but only cuts can get the designation early. Early June 1 designations are limited to two players per team.

2. The June 1 designation does indeed create extra cap space in the current year, but it does so at the expense of the following year’s cap, and the space it creates in the current year cannot be used until after June 1, rendering it all but useless for the purpose of signing free agents.

3. The net cap space created by a June 1 cut versus a pre-June 1 cut is ALWAYS the same; the only difference is in which year(s) the prorated bonus money is counted against the cap. Basically there’s no such thing as a free lunch. You can’t cheat the cap with a June 1 designation, you can just move around a limited amount of prorated bonus money.

Spotrac seems to think there’s a difference between a post June 1 cut and a post June 1 trade. I’ve made two prior posts regarding this and even put instructions on where to click to see it.

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I think Spielman DOES have the balls. It took balls to sign Cousins, and trying for Brees was also ballsy. Trading up to get 3 picks in the first round is also ballsy. As was signing Sheldon Richardson, and not letting him leave town.